What kind of Medical Specialist should I become?

What should I become?

  • Vitreo-Retinal Opthamologist

    Votes: 4 21.1%
  • Cardiac/Cardiothoracic Surgeon

    Votes: 12 63.2%
  • Opthamologist (Just doing LASIK & PRK)

    Votes: 3 15.8%

  • Total voters
    19
  • Poll closed .

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Hi guys, So, this is my first thread so forgive me if I annoy you.

Anyways, So, I am going to be in the 10th grade in August and I have already decided to become somekind of a medical specialist.

Well, I do include a few factors, when you tell me which job I should set my goal on, I would like it to have a LOW sueing rate (I don't think I spelled it right).

Also, I would like for it to have a relatively high salary, salaries higher than cardiac surgeons would be great.

I heard that a Vitreo-Retinal Opthamologist has a really good pay and is getting higher than cardiothoracic surgeons, is that true?

And lastly, could yo
u guys tell me if the career you're going to recommend to me; the demands are going up for that job?

Thanks and sorry for so many requests, I don't have an intention on being bossy,

It's just, this career thing has bugged me for 3 years 😕 and I can't stand it anymore, Yahoo Answers' sucks.

Thanks and I hope I get ALL of my questions answered.

P.S: I want to decide what I want to become now, if I don't, I wouldn't have a motive to get good grades in high school right now as I am going to become a sophomore in August.

Statistics would be nice.

I kind of want to be a Vitreo-Retinal Opthamologist, but

Whatever job has increasing demands, high high pay, and low or no suing rates would be the perfect job.

Thanks! 😀
 
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first get half way through high school, then we will talk.
 
being a similarly green aspiring medical student, i can empathize with your need to determine what specialty it is you wish to pursue and of course the salary associated with it. there are, however, many different factors at play when considering medical specialties that anyone but a medical student needn't be concerned about. as a high school student, i would advise that you elicit motivation from the prospect of going to a good school and the opportunities that will arise from that. you may find that at the forefront of your academic career, you aren't so sure about what exactly it is you want to do with your life and there ain't a thing wrong with that.

radiation oncology is interesting though, at least to me. perhaps reading about the specialties will help you to realize how in over your head you are. good luck.
 
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being a similarly green aspiring medical student, i can empathize with your need to determine what specialty it is you wish to pursue and of course the salary associated with it. there are, however, many different factors at play when considering medical specialties that anyone but a medical student needn't be concerned about. as a high school student, i would advise that you elicit motivation from the prospect of going to a good school and the opportunities that will arise from that. you may find that at the forefront of your academic career, you aren't so sure about what exactly it is you want to do with your life and there ain't a thing wrong with that.

radiation oncology is interesting though, at least to me. perhaps reading about the specialties will help you to realize how in over your head you are. good luck.


Well, once I decide something, I go for it, that's just the kind of guy I am.

But anyway, I'm not really interested in radiation and oncology for the high suing rates from patients,

and I also do consider a salary as a key factor. My motives are to help people in the U.S and in other countries as well.

So could you guys please stop telling me to decide later? If I don't decide now, I will not have a motive to get good grades.

I want a reason to get good grades, and I must decide now, so please, I am begging you guys, you guys are ahead of me in education.

So, please.

I'm thinking on either vitreo-retinal opthamologist or cardiac surgeon or some other high pay job.

But I heard cardiac surgeon job demand rates are going down because of interventional cardiologists/radiologists.
 
Just work on passing geometry for now. I hated proofs!
 
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It looks like your main interest is $$$, so just look up which pays best.


NO, Money is just a key factor, I want to help people as best as I can but still live a comfortable life with no one suing me or anything, that's why I was kind of considering vitreo-retinal but I wasn't sure about the salary for that career.
 
Well, once I decide something, I go for it, that's just the kind of guy I am.

But anyway, I'm not really interested in radiation and oncology for the high suing rates from patients,

and I also do consider a salary as a key factor. My motives are to help people in the U.S and in other countries as well.

So could you guys please stop telling me to decide later? If I don't decide now, I will not have a motive to get good grades.

I want a reason to get good grades, and I must decide now, so please, I am begging you guys, you guys are ahead of me in education.

So, please.

I'm thinking on either vitreo-retinal opthamologist or cardiac surgeon or some other high pay job.

But I heard cardiac surgeon job demand rates are going down because of interventional cardiologists/radiologists.

things like salaries and job demand rates are subject to change in the 6-8 years between you and applying to medical school. so are things like your motivations and academic interests. the reason your question remains unanswered is there is not really a need for you to know at this point what specialty to pursue. as you'll soon find out, such things are determined by performance and standardized testing in medical school. aspire to getting into medical school (itself a feat by many standards), becoming a doctor, and using your knowledge to help people. somewhere down the road, you might find that your interests and talents lay outside of high income/low risk specialties.
 
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things like salaries and job demand rates are subject to change in the 6-8 years between you and applying to medical school. so are things like your motivations and academic interests. the reason your question remains unanswered is there is not really a need for you to know at this point what specialty to pursue. as you'll soon find out, such things are determined by performance and standardized testing in medical school. aspire to getting into medical school (itself a feat by many standards), becoming a doctor, and using your knowledge to help people. somewhere down the road, you might find that your interests and talents lie outside of high income/low risk specialties.


I like your answer, and it's convinced me to consider later, but can you answer this one question.

If I was in my last year of medical school and I didn't choose what I wanted to be, and it was either a cardiac surgeon or a vitreo-retinal surgeon, what would it be.

Salary for vitreo-retinal would be splendid.
 
All 3 of the specialties have a risk of being sued. It's not uncommon to see cardiothoracic surgeons or vitreo-retinal opthomologists get sued. I've seen both and at top institutes (Brigham and Mass Eye and Ear). No matter what field you practice in, you're likely to suffer a lawsuit or two.

NO, Money is just a key factor, I want to help people as best as I can but still live a comfortable life with no one suing me or anything, that's why I was kind of considering vitreo-retinal but I wasn't sure about the salary for that career.
 
All 3 of the specialties have a risk of being sued. It's not uncommon to see cardiothoracic surgeons or vitreo-retinal opthomologists get sued. I've seen both and at top institutes (Brigham and Mass Eye and Ear). No matter what field you practice in, you're likely to suffer a lawsuit or two.


But they have low rates of getting sued according to the internet. 2-3% chance for cardiac surgeons.

COuld anyone tell me the salary for Vitreo-retinal surgeons?
 
Isn't it past your bedtime?
Go to bed and wake up bright and early back in hSDN.

Whatever you "decide" to be/specialize in now (or tommorow, or next week, month or year) -- I would bet big money that you either:

A) Change your mind over the course of the next...umm... 9-10 years before you need to really get down to a decision in med school.

B) You just won't make it period. Not because I think you're a nincompoop, but because the odds are simply against you at this point [read: "The high schooler who wants to grow up to be a rich doctor"].

Good luck though. 🙂
 
I like your answer, and it's convinced me to consider later, but can you answer this one question.

If I was in my last year of medical school and I didn't choose what I wanted to be, and it was either a cardiac surgeon or a vitreo-retinal surgeon, what would it be.

Salary for vitreo-retinal would be splendid.

you're persistent, but like everything else, that depends, specifically on things like your step 1 scores and clinical evaluations (from what i have read on sdn). i have full confidence that you will make a good decision based on your abilities and aspirations nonetheless. now apply that persistence to school and soon enough you will be able to discuss this with someone much more educated on the matter.
 
I'm sorry but this thread is dumb. Actually, I'm not sorry...I lied.

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I like your answer, and it's convinced me to consider later, but can you answer this one question.

If I was in my last year of medical school and I didn't choose what I wanted to be, and it was either a cardiac surgeon or a vitreo-retinal surgeon, what would it be.

Oh, you are quite the clever one with subtleness. Perhaps consider politics.
 
"nur hur, this thread is stupid, that is why i am replying to it. let this reflect how educated i am."

no seriously, let this actually reflect that premed will make you a horrible, intolerable person and that by the time it's over, you'll have long since lost sight of your goals.
 
8 years from now, you will look back and realize how ridiculous the idea of picking your specialty at this point really is. Do you have any experience with these specialties or with medicine in general?

Whether or not you find a certain specialty boring or exciting and whether or not you have talent for this specialty will probably end up being bigger factors in your decision than the salary and litigation rate. I'm not saying those won't be factors, but you aren't really seeing the big picture yet.

You shouldn't need a specialty to stay motivated and work hard. Getting into medical school is a challenging task in itself and a goal worth working hard for. Study hard, work hard, open doors for yourself. They won't close on you anytime soon. There's no need to pick one now.
 
Hi guys, So, this is my first thread so forgive me if I annoy you.

Anyways, So, I am going to be in the 10th grade in August and I have already decided to become somekind of a medical specialist.

Well, I do include a few factors, when you tell me which job I should set my goal on, I would like it to have a LOW sueing rate (I don't think I spelled it right).

Also, I would like for it to have a relatively high salary, salaries higher than cardiac surgeons would be great.

I heard that a Vitreo-Retinal Opthamologist has a really good pay and is getting higher than cardiothoracic surgeons, is that true?

And lastly, could yo
u guys tell me if the career you're going to recommend to me; the demands are going up for that job?

Thanks and sorry for so many requests, I don't have an intention on being bossy,

It's just, this career thing has bugged me for 3 years 😕 and I can't stand it anymore, Yahoo Answers' sucks.

Thanks and I hope I get ALL of my questions answered.

P.S: I want to decide what I want to become now, if I don't, I wouldn't have a motive to get good grades in high school right now as I am going to become a sophomore in August.

Statistics would be nice.

I kind of want to be a Vitreo-Retinal Opthamologist, but

Whatever job has increasing demands, high high pay, and low or no suing rates would be the perfect job.

Thanks! 😀

Seriously bro

I don't doubt you're the cream of the crop at your school. However, you haven't started college. Getting into medical school isn't garunteed. You need to work on figuring out which college is a best fit for you. Then work on getting into medical school. Doesn't do you any good to know what you want to be, when you may not even get in. And, if anyone knows anything, it's that everyones idea of what they want to do changes throughout medical school.

Seriously. Focus on acing high school Get college paid for. Forget anything and everything about medicine until college orientation.
 
Well, once I decide something, I go for it, that's just the kind of guy I am.

But anyway, I'm not really interested in radiation and oncology for the high suing rates from patients,

and I also do consider a salary as a key factor. My motives are to help people in the U.S and in other countries as well.

So could you guys please stop telling me to decide later? If I don't decide now, I will not have a motive to get good grades.

I want a reason to get good grades, and I must decide now, so please, I am begging you guys, you guys are ahead of me in education.

So, please.

I'm thinking on either vitreo-retinal opthamologist or cardiac surgeon or some other high pay job.

But I heard cardiac surgeon job demand rates are going down because of interventional cardiologists/radiologists.

Ok, you're going to be in 10th grade, so you're what, 14? 15? To become a surgical sub-specialist such as a heart surgeon, you'll need 3 more years of high school, 4 years of college, 4 years of medical school, and 7 years of postgraduate training, for a minimum grand total of 18 years, or LONGER THAN YOU HAVE BEEN ALIVE up till now. So it seems kind of presumptuous to say that "once I decide to do something, I go for it".

By the same token, discussing current employment trends is a bit irrelevant since you won't be looking for a job for about TWO DECADES.
 
Algebra II? What are you, dull? You need to be taking at least AP Calc by junior year if you want to have any chance of becoming a cardiac surgeon. You think those residency programs are going to look favorably at your lazy high school years? There are plenty of applicants with good grades in college who also excelled in high school. Kids these days.
 
Lol y'all got trolled hard. Either that or this kid is just really really sad.
 
Do you know that medical technology is changing moment by moment and the career you envision now may be totally changed by 2030? When I was your age, we didn't know about HIV, Lyme disease or Legionnaires' disease but we still had some cases of smallpox in the world, cataract surgery required a hospital stay with one's head cradled between sandbags, and balloon angioplasty for coronary artery disease had not yet been developed.

The best way to avoid lawsuits is to be a caring and compassionate physician who relates well to patients and who communicates well. Develop those skills now. If you have not already begun learning a foreign language you should get started with that. Spanish is the most valuable second language in the US but there are pockets where other languages are important. Physicians who can communicate in American Sign Language are rare and in demand.

The career you imagine will be stressful and it is important to develop some interests outside of medicine and science. Learn a sport or athletic skill that you can engage in throughout your life for good health and stress relief. Find a hobby and develop skills that you can use to develop eye-hand coordination, three-dimentional thinking, memory development and creative thinking.

At this point, attempt to learn many things. As you progress you will learn more and more about less and less culminating is subspecialization but early in your academic career, your learning should be as broad as possible.

Right now your goal should be to prepare academically to do well on the SAT (and/or ACT) so that you can get into the best college or university that will have you and, with any luck, to get scholarships that will help defray the cost.
 
Isn't it past your bedtime?
Go to bed and wake up bright and early back in hSDN.

Whatever you "decide" to be/specialize in now (or tommorow, or next week, month or year) -- I would bet big money that you either:

A) Change your mind over the course of the next...umm... 9-10 years before you need to really get down to a decision in med school.

B) You just won't make it period. Not because I think you're a nincompoop, but because the odds are simply against you at this point [read: "The high schooler who wants to grow up to be a rich doctor"].

Good luck though. 🙂
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Do you know that medical technology is changing moment by moment and the career you envision now may be totally changed by 2030? When I was your age, we didn't know about HIV, Lyme disease or Legionnaires' disease but we still had some cases of smallpox in the world, cataract surgery required a hospital stay with one's head cradled between sandbags, and balloon angioplasty for coronary artery disease had not yet been developed.


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also, great comments as usual.
 
NO, Money is just a key factor, I want to help people as best as I can but still live a comfortable life with no one suing me or anything, that's why I was kind of considering vitreo-retinal but I wasn't sure about the salary for that career.

Why do you think doctors have such high malpractice rates? They're literally holding peoples' lives in their hands. You cannot become a doctor assured that NO ONE will sue you. If you want to help people and not be sued, become an accountant.

You're going to change your mind ten thousand times between now and medical school, so please don't be so persistent about this. You'll understand how ridiculous your question is when you survive a year of college.
 
Lol, you got a long LONG LONG way to go bud..

Get through high school, and at least three years of college and then MAYBE you could start to think about it..
 
Here's why this question is ridiculous:

- All we know about you is that you're in the 10th grade, don't like to be sued, and want to make a lot of money - i.e., you are exactly the same as every other 14-15 year old high school student. Seeing as I wouldn't recommend medicine to every 15 year-old, let alone a specific specialty, there's no way to answer your question with the information given.

- You should study hard no matter what you want to do. All of those choices require serious learning, so choosing between them doesn't change how hard you have to study.
 
Maybe he should get a job at ENRON. No getting sued; just free clothing and free housing in a nice state penitentiary. :laugh:

Why do you think doctors have such high malpractice rates? They're literally holding peoples' lives in their hands. You cannot become a doctor assured that NO ONE will sue you. If you want to help people and not be sued, become an accountant.

You're going to change your mind ten thousand times between now and medical school, so please don't be so persistent about this. You'll understand how ridiculous your question is when you survive a year of college.
 
I guess there's nothing wrong in wanting to have A goal to work towards but to have the OPs attitude is just ridiculous and stupid. You have no idea what the medical field is and not even close to touching medical school for awhile. Wanna be a doc? Good for you. Want to be a specific kind and stress about it like you are now with such lame reasons... worthless.
 
Plenty of medical $tudents mu$t make tough deci$ion$ when choo$ing their $pecialty.
 
first get half way through high school, then we will talk.

It is absolutely fine to have a dream, but for the OP to do serious thinking or research on specialties is ridiculous at this point.

You have tough undergrad classes, MCAT, Step 1, etc. NOT TO MENTION, LIFE. SDN'ers sometimes forget there is life outside of school and stats (specialties, lol).

There are a lot of hurdles to get over.

Advice. Get off this site. BE BALANCED. Be social, play an instrument or sports, pick up interesting hobbies for yourself outside of medical pursuits. Be an interesting person.

Use SDN to improve your applications and your chances in school (or learn from others who are good). Don't use SDN as a way of life.

At this point, attempt to learn many things. As you progress you will learn more and more about less and less culminating is subspecialization but early in your academic career, your learning should be as broad as possible.
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8 years from now, you will look back and realize how ridiculous the idea of picking your specialty at this point really is. Do you have any experience with these specialties or with medicine in general?

Whether or not you find a certain specialty boring or exciting and whether or not you have talent for this specialty will probably end up being bigger factors in your decision than the salary and litigation rate. I'm not saying those won't be factors, but you aren't really seeing the big picture yet.

You shouldn't need a specialty to stay motivated and work hard. Getting into medical school is a challenging task in itself and a goal worth working hard for. Study hard, work hard, open doors for yourself. They won't close on you anytime soon. There's no need to pick one now.

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I guess there's nothing wrong in wanting to have A goal to work towards but to have the OPs attitude is just ridiculous and stupid. You have no idea what the medical field is and not even close to touching medical school for awhile. Wanna be a doc? Good for you. Want to be a specific kind and stress about it like you are now with such lame reasons... worthless.

Wow, excellent replies. I should have read them first as my post mirrors most people's sentiments.
 
Hi guys, So, this is my first thread so forgive me if I annoy you.

Anyways, So, I am going to be in the 10th grade in August and I have already decided to become somekind of a medical specialist.

Well, I do include a few factors, when you tell me which job I should set my goal on, I would like it to have a LOW sueing rate (I don't think I spelled it right).

Also, I would like for it to have a relatively high salary, salaries higher than cardiac surgeons would be great.

I heard that a Vitreo-Retinal Opthamologist has a really good pay and is getting higher than cardiothoracic surgeons, is that true?

And lastly, could yo
u guys tell me if the career you're going to recommend to me; the demands are going up for that job?

Thanks and sorry for so many requests, I don't have an intention on being bossy,

It's just, this career thing has bugged me for 3 years 😕 and I can't stand it anymore, Yahoo Answers' sucks.

Thanks and I hope I get ALL of my questions answered.

P.S: I want to decide what I want to become now, if I don't, I wouldn't have a motive to get good grades in high school right now as I am going to become a sophomore in August.

Statistics would be nice.

I kind of want to be a Vitreo-Retinal Opthamologist, but

Whatever job has increasing demands, high high pay, and low or no suing rates would be the perfect job.

Thanks! 😀

Yay. Assuming admission statistics are accurate, you probably won't make it. I don't want someone cutting on my eye just to make a quick buck.

We have to make it not only through high school, but also college and medical school. Breathe in and out and realize money isn't the only key to happiness. It's really nice to have interests and aspirations, but be realistic. By the time your graduate medical school, the entire medical system could have changed. By that time, we may have new specialties and other may have become obsolete. Their scope of practice and pay rates could change in a year.

Look forward to the future, but don't put the cart before the horse.
 
Here's why this question is ridiculous:

- All we know about you is that you're in the 10th grade, don't like to be sued, and want to make a lot of money - i.e., you are exactly the same as every other 14-15 year old high school student. Seeing as I wouldn't recommend medicine to every 15 year-old, let alone a specific specialty, there's no way to answer your question with the information given.

- You should study hard no matter what you want to do. All of those choices require serious learning, so choosing between them doesn't change how hard you have to study.

Agreed.
 
It is clear from this thread so far that no matter what anyone here tells you, you are set on placing one of these specialties up on a pedestal as your future career goal.

From your posts, it sounds as if ophthalmology is your front runner, so you might as well set your sights on that. I won't try to discourage you from having such a specific goal so early in your life, but I do hope that you will take the following advice:

1) If at any point is seems as if your intended path needs to change (due to academic performance, changing interests, etc), don't be afraid of that change.

2) Do not go around telling people that you are going to be a Vitreo-retinal Ophthalmologist as an adult. Even if that prediction is spot on, people will still label you as foolish for having such a focused dream - you will do well to remember that.
 
I think you might want to look into radiation anesthesiology. There's big bucks to be made there.
 
Um.. I wanted to be a doctor when I was the OP's age. I don't think there is anything wrong with aspiring to be a doctor at any age and setting goals. The OP does take it too far... I didn't think about specialties (well.. maybe ER i did), but I really didn't care too much about anything else. My advice would be the same as everyone else and I'm sure your not going to like it because I didn't when I was younger I thought it was snobby.. "enjoy your youth." And I'm serious.. high school, college - you have some amazing years ahead of you and you won't get them back no matter how hard you try. For example, in high school we used to have crazy parties at this one girls house our whole class would show up. After the first year of college and even I think the second attempts were made to bring it back - less than half the people showed up and it wasn't the same by far, maybe drinking became less "giggly and omg" I don't know. And of course college - had a great time but always was looking forward to med school. A month into med school now and I miss college - it was easy and fun and I'm jealous of my 5 year friends and siblings that are now starting up and going out every night meeting girls etc while I'm studying. Well.. I am jealous, but not to that degree I'm happy where I am its a new stage of life but OP just saying, try and treasure the moments.
 
Anyways, So, I am going to be in the 10th grade in August and I have already decided to become somekind of a medical specialist.


Great, perfect, wonderful. I'm a junior and i can agree with the fact that when you want to become a doctor, well more than likely you have the type A personality that makes you think about your future. Constantly infact, if you're anything like me.

Also, I would like for it to have a relatively high salary, salaries higher than cardiac surgeons would be great.
I heard that a Vitreo-Retinal Opthamologist has a really good pay and is getting higher than cardiothoracic surgeons, is that true?


Are you kidding me? Are you really going to base what you want to do for the rest of your life off of salary and suing rates? How ridiculous. Even if you actually get into med school and you actually become one the these doctors, do you think you'll love going to work every day because you get a lot of money? No. You'll hate it.

P.S: I want to decide what I want to become now, if I don't, I wouldn't have a motive to get good grades in high school right now as I am going to become a sophomore in August.


This is just as ridiculous. You shouldn't have to choose your specialty to do well in school. If you need a goal, have a goal of getting into college. A good college that you actually have to work to get into. That, and not the end result, is what gives me a drive to do well. Once i'm in my dream school, then i can focus on getting into med school. And once i'm in med school, i can focus on actually becoming a doctor. Sure, it's all for that purpose, but by only doing well in high school so that you can become a rich doctor with a low chance of being sued? Really? You're making a mockery of all of us high school students who would do anything to be a doctor because that's what we LOVE. Passion is just as important as grades.

Whatever job has increasing demands, high high pay, and low or no suing rates would be the perfect job.

Good luck living in your fantasy world. Tell me how that works for you.
 
Just work on passing geometry for now. I hated proofs!

I'm taking Pre-Calc as a sophomore o.o. I took Geometry... a while ago. I'm going to be a sophomore just letting you know. 😀
 
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Great, perfect, wonderful. I'm a junior and i can agree with the fact that when you want to become a doctor, well more than likely you have the type A personality that makes you think about your future. Constantly infact, if you're anything like me.



Are you kidding me? Are you really going to base what you want to do for the rest of your life off of salary and suing rates? How ridiculous. Even if you actually get into med school and you actually become one the these doctors, do you think you'll love going to work every day because you get a lot of money? No. You'll hate it.




This is just as ridiculous. You shouldn't have to choose your specialty to do well in school. If you need a goal, have a goal of getting into college. A good college that you actually have to work to get into. That, and not the end result, is what gives me a drive to do well. Once i'm in my dream school, then i can focus on getting into med school. And once i'm in med school, i can focus on actually becoming a doctor. Sure, it's all for that purpose, but by only doing well in high school so that you can become a rich doctor with a low chance of being sued? Really? You're making a mockery of all of us high school students who would do anything to be a doctor because that's what we LOVE. Passion is just as important as grades.



Good luck living in your fantasy world. Tell me how that works for you.

Sorry for the double post, but I halfway agree with you and the original thread creator. Well, first off, I don't believe that you should completely base your career off of something you enjoy. A lot of people will get jobs like artist, musician, athlete, or something along that line of careers if they do. (Not very promising) Also, as a fellow sophomore I can understand the person's train of thought but I don't think one should base their career off of salary/sue rates. As he pointed out, if you enjoy the job enough, you wouldn't have to worry about doing a terrible job because you'd have done a great job to begin with. Well, that's all I can say.
 
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