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How many applicants have 1,000+ VOLUNTEER clinical hours? what percent?
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Unfortunately, according to my friend whose parents are doctors, volunteering is just a check mark, and beyond 100 hours is only causing diminishing returns.
I totally agree with that as far as sheer numbers go; I have way over 1000 and no one seems to care about the volume; I've attended 8/10 interviews so far and no one has mentioned itYeah, sorry to break it to you, but I don't think anything above 200 is really going to help your application that much...
How many applicants have 1,000+ VOLUNTEER clinical hours? what percent?
1500+ hours volunteer EMT
1-200 hours shadowing various docs
50-100 hours hospital volunteer
I don't think my clinical experience will be a weakness of mine.
what do you mean how many people have 1000+ clinical hours? We all do; didn't you know it's a prereq?
Now that I think about it I probably have about 1000 research hours but nowhere near that many clinical hours. Maybe 100? I think with clinical experience it's quality over quantity...10 hours spend actively shadowing a physician--i.e. listening in on rounds, asking questions, discussing patients--trumps 100 hours sitting in the corner and being ignored.
Always love how these threads turn into a wang-measuring contest.
Well, the OP basically asked "how many of you have wangs longer than 10 inches?" What type of responses do you expect lol.
Oh wow I never knew this. I understand the term quality over quantity, but doesn't 1000 hours of volunteer service at any one organization show quality? I always thought quantity mean't having many smaller EC's as opposed to a few longer term ones.
Would it be then better to find a medium and volunteer at say 6 different organization bi-weekly as opposed to 3 every week?
Thanks.
I have like 500 hours in a free clinic getting vitals, taking CC/HPI, updating drug charts, stuff like that. More recently I've started teaching the newer volunteers how to do this.
I have like 200 hours shadowing various docs which was pretty fun, but I think you get to a point where shadowing just makes you cranky because you're ready to just start med school.
I'm also an emergency medicine scribe... no idea how many hours I have here...
Ultimately I think it comes down to the qualitative things you've acquired from all this and the more you do, the less quantitative things like hours matter.
In my last interview they asked me how many hours of each activity I had (it was a blind interview), but they seemed more interested in what I gained from the experience (he asked me for specific situations that were memorable to me).
Oh wow I never knew this. I understand the term quality over quantity, but doesn't 1000 hours of volunteer service at any one organization show quality? I always thought quantity mean't having many smaller EC's as opposed to a few longer term ones.
Would it be then better to find a medium and volunteer at say 6 different organization bi-weekly as opposed to 3 every week?
Thanks.
Oh wow I never knew this. I understand the term quality over quantity, but doesn't 1000 hours of volunteer service at any one organization show quality? I always thought quantity mean't having many smaller EC's as opposed to a few longer term ones.
Would it be then better to find a medium and volunteer at say 6 different organization bi-weekly as opposed to 3 every week?
Thanks.
1500+ hours volunteer EMT
1-200 hours shadowing various docs
50-100 hours hospital volunteer
I don't think my clinical experience will be a weakness of mine.
what the hell are you doing for 2 hours per call?As a volunteer EMT I'm probably up there although never really thought about it until now. Figuring just for the summer when I'm home from school: ~2 hours per call (from out the door when I get paged to restocking the rig etc) and I average 2 calls a day. For easy numbers thats 20 hours in a 5 day week plus my 10 hour duty shift puts it at 30 hours. I'll leave out Sunday to make up for inconsistencies in the averages. At ~14 weeks of summer that'd put me just over 400 hours a summer and I've been doing it for 3 years.
I really don't like the hours slots on the app. It's hard to explain my hours if something is predominately seasonal, etc.
what the hell are you doing for 2 hours per call?
what the hell are you doing for 2 hours per call?
Dang. Why do people act like word nazis on the internet. You know what they "mean't". Its not like they are talking like that at their interview of something. Chill out.Mean't?... Mea not?
How many applicants have 1,000+ VOLUNTEER clinical hours? what percent?
Your experience reminds me of STAR behavioral interviewing and is a lot like what I've experienced on school interviews. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if they were using this interview method (which seems to be quite popular amongst HR depts at a number of health organizations these days).
Quality:
Direct Pt care
Responsibility for Pt outcomes
Working closely w/ the rest of the healthcare team (esp. MDs/DOs & RNs)
Strength of LORs rec'd
Length of commitment as evidenced by development and demonstration of leadership within the organization
Quantity:
# hrs
Length of commitment (at least 9-12 mos; beyond 2-3 yrs sees extreme diminishing returns)
Quality>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Quantity
# of hours is virtually meaningless. Keep in mind that most organizations consider anyone w/ less than ~500 hrs (90 days FTE) to be a probationary employee (i.e., still in training/orientation). The typical volunteer never gets beyond those initial 500 hrs. In other words, the number of hrs you put in is basically insignificant. You cannot even begin to be compared to someone who is employed in healthcare by hrs, so you must be compared in other ways (e.g., quality of experience). Additionally, quality of experience varies greatly. Someone with 2000 hours sitting behind a desk pulling files and transferring calls to pts' rooms has gotten FAR less pt care experience (and probably learned FAR, FAR less about Pt care) than someone with 400 hrs helping the techs triage Pts in a busy ED (e.g., taking vitals, pushing wheelchairs, responding to call lights at busy times to assist the techs, etc.).
As for volunteering at multiple places...I'd just start with one. I am volunteering at multiple due to limited hrs available at one of them and an interest in emergency medicine. Each site offers different experiences and opportunities, so I got involved with 2. As things go, I probably will end up picking up some occasional time at a third helping to develop an on-site EMS program for another organization because of my experience and background.
Well I currently volunteer at an ER and there are a lot of things that we cant do because they are in not in our scope or practice. For example, I can push a patient around in a wheelchair, but I cant do any sort of work that would be meant for a staff member. So I guess in the end the quality of my services would never be excellent. I live in Canada, however, and even here things like shadowing a physician is illegal because it violates doctor-patient confidentiality.
I live in Canada, however, and even here things like shadowing a physician is illegal because it violates doctor-patient confidentiality.
This is why I strongly suggest people (yourself included) move away from hospital volunteering. Granted, due to socialized healthcare, I'm not sure if you have the kinds of free clinics we have here in the States. If you do, I'd try volunteering at one of them.
haha i actually just read this thread and saw this. then #17... then #40.inb4 posters come in (apumic/familyaerospace) and boast their awesome stats!!!...
OP rephrase it to "volunteer" clinical hours so we can single out the altruistic diehards!