2007-2012 PGY-1 match result in charts

Discussion in 'Pharmacy Residencies and Fellowships' started by xiphoid2010, Mar 21, 2012.

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  1. xiphoid2010

    xiphoid2010 7+ Year Member

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  3. KARM12

    KARM12 Super Member 10+ Year Member

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    Dork. :)
     
  4. xiphoid2010

    xiphoid2010 7+ Year Member

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    you got that right. :D
     
  5. KUMoose

    KUMoose Grumpy old man 7+ Year Member

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    So that's how you get to be DOP, dorky excel charts 10m after data is available. :smuggrin:
     
  6. xiphoid2010

    xiphoid2010 7+ Year Member

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    Don't forget also eating free donuts and bagels in meetings, micromanage workers, shoot some breeze with other department heads, checking canlendar for upcoming birthdays of people that you hardly know. :smuggrin:
     
  7. KARM12

    KARM12 Super Member 10+ Year Member

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    Learning from Z?
     
  8. KUMoose

    KUMoose Grumpy old man 7+ Year Member

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    He's got the drive-by snark down, so yea I'd say successfully so.

    BTW Xiphoid wtb zero spaces to the right of the decimal place man, the graph looks rough, especially the last one. ;)
     
  9. KUMoose

    KUMoose Grumpy old man 7+ Year Member

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    So the second graph says that residencies typically rank ~2.5 people per open spot (blue line)?
     
  10. xiphoid2010

    xiphoid2010 7+ Year Member

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    It says the size of each PGY-1 program has not increased (average 2.5 spots per program), but programs are ranking more candidates for each of those spots.

    The next graph shows that while the number of residency spots each applicant applies/ranks has only risen moderately, each residency spot experiences many more applications/rankings (due to the more rapid increase in number of applicants)
     
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  11. KUMoose

    KUMoose Grumpy old man 7+ Year Member

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    Yea, ok I see it.

    And without a way to pry more money for services, we're unlikely to see an increase in that number anytime soon.
     
  12. xiphoid2010

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    from the numbers, I'm actually fairly impressed by the number of sites that has funded new PGY-1 programs (322 new programs in 6 years, a 49.3% increase).

    What's more interesting to me is that the stagnant ratio of spots/program seems to suggest that the increase in spots comes almost entirely from these new programs, while existing programs doesn't appear to be expanding. This could be due to funding like you said, or due to site logistics (reaching max candidate each site can support)
     
  13. KUMoose

    KUMoose Grumpy old man 7+ Year Member

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    Yea, guilty of not reading the graphs all the way, I thought you were reposting and my [email protected]#$%@#$%@#$ network didn't populate everything.

    I just chopped the post I wanted to make (I'm in bitter a-hole mode tonight), so I'll just say this, if any residency directors are lurking out there, what is it that keeps you from accepting more positions?
     
  14. psychoandy

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    nice graphs!!! but all of this data is easily obtainable. as a result of the above data, what i really want to know is the ratio of "clinical" positions requiring PGY1 residency to number of PGY1 residents. or perhaps % of residents who have a job lined up this July 1st vs prior years.
     
  15. xiphoid2010

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    I graphed the data to facilitate trend analysis. Yeah, it would be nice info if ASHP collected info on what you mentioned.
     
  16. pharm B

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    Thanks for posting all of this, xiphoid. Between that and the cool new avatar, I can see you've been hard at work. :smuggrin:
     
  17. confettiflyer

    confettiflyer Did you just say something? 10+ Year Member

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    I just spent 10 straight seconds staring at his avatar, hahaha.:whoa:
     
  18. xiphoid2010

    xiphoid2010 7+ Year Member

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    Yeah, it's hard work eating this oat meal (guess I am learning from Z). LOL.

    Diving into number and statistics in search of patterns and explanations is something I enjoy. Once a lab rat, always a lab rat I guess. I hope others found it interesting as well.

    Before I graphed things out, I was expecting to see a near linear increase in the difficulty of securing PGY-1 residency. But now it seems to be more like a division of pre and post 2009 era, where you see a major drop in match % and increase in applicants/spot from 2008-2010, but seems to have leveled out since then. Kinda mirrors the economy.
     
  19. Its Z

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    Random peoples birthdays should not be on your work calendar.
    Review your monthly medication safety committee binder and keep it updated.
    Keep your dept quality initiatives current.
     
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    I dont eat free food..
     
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    PS - i don't know how this thread only had 20 posts, with most of them being BS...
     
  23. confettiflyer

    confettiflyer Did you just say something? 10+ Year Member

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    Haha wow look at 2012, it's a wonder how I managed to match with those numbers. Seems to have normalized with PGY-1 spots ramping up and the legions of the unmatched flattening out.
     
  24. awval999

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    I definitely see the amount of PGY-1 residencies steadily increasing. In our health system even the small ~100 bed hospitals are getting on the gravy train. $40k for a 1.5 FTE pharmacist? Even if you subtract the learning/teaching component you end up with a ~1.0 FTE RPh for only $40k. Win-win-win.
     
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  25. pharmasaur

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    some hospitals are opening up unaccredited PGY-2 programs when their "X specialist" leaves...so they train that PGY2 for 40k and then hire them on. instead of traditionally where they would have to suck up the investment cost, hire a PGY1 or even PGY2, train them for 6 months on full salary etc. after the position is filled the program goes on hiatus until there is an opening again lol.
     
  26. awval999

    awval999 New Member 10+ Year Member

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    Very interesting. I have not heard of that. And since it's unaccredited they don't have to worry about all that ResiTrac nonsense. Honestly though, if its a "hand-shake" deal for a full time job, it's not the most terrible idea for that pharmacist to suck up one more year of slave wages.
     

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