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Just to stop these from rattling around in my head for a minute.
Here are my top 5 concerns about this whole process:
1. Finances. Affording the cost of applying. Affording travel to interviews (hopefully). Affording grad school.
2. Alienating everyone with my crazy schedule and unavailability and ending up with no friends. I have already lost one.
3. Gaining more weight. I'm not sure if I have put on any pounds since I do not weigh myself. but my body fat % has definitely increased. I have no time or inclination to exercise right now, can't afford the gym, am eating worse and developed a nasty wine and cheese habit to deal w/ the stress. Most of my clothes are tight now and I can't afford more.
4. Not getting any acceptances (or even interviews) after all this effort and cost.
5. Getting in! I have been doing the full time daily grind for 13 years now with little interruption. I have been at my current job for 7 years and in the Bay Area since 1992. Going to grad school will likely mean moving someplace I have never been and know no one (and the weather will be more extreme). So big changes. Also, will I hate it? Can I hack it? and after all the blood, sweat and tears will I be able to find any kind of job?
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for #1, 4, & 5, I was there last year and wish you luck.
now, i realize you might just be venting - but if you are really losing touch with friends and having trouble sticking to work out habits and good eating habits, i cannot stress to you enough to make changes NOW, even in the midst of stressful applications - make time for your friends, make time to eat and work out and sleep - and do it consistently. because bad habits die hard and as cara susanna said, grad school is a much bigger time suck and headache than applying (although applying was probably slightly more anxiety-provoking).
good luck!
We gladly pay the 38/month for it........Just to stop these from rattling around in my head for a minute.
Here are my top 5 concerns about this whole process:
1. Finances. Affording the cost of applying. Affording travel to interviews (hopefully). Affording grad school.
2. Alienating everyone with my crazy schedule and unavailability and ending up with no friends. I have already lost one.
3. Gaining more weight. I'm not sure if I have put on any pounds since I do not weigh myself. but my body fat % has definitely increased. I have no time or inclination to exercise right now, can't afford the gym, am eating worse and developed a nasty wine and cheese habit to deal w/ the stress. Most of my clothes are tight now and I can't afford more.
4. Not getting any acceptances (or even interviews) after all this effort and cost.
5. Getting in! I have been doing the full time daily grind for 13 years now with little interruption. I have been at my current job for 7 years and in the Bay Area since 1992. Going to grad school will likely mean moving someplace I have never been and know no one (and the weather will be more extreme). So big changes. Also, will I hate it? Can I hack it? and after all the blood, sweat and tears will I be able to find any kind of job?
Please feel free to share yours.
I hate to say this, but the app process isn't nearly as stressful as grad school itself. :/
1st year: lifeWow, everyone's talking about not having a life during app season and in grad school. Maybe I don't do enough work....
1st year: life
2nd year: less/no life
3rd year: no life
4th year: less life
5th year: more life
6th year: Life! (internship)
It didn't "feel" like I had a life during my 1st year, but I had more time compared to the 2nd, 3rd, etc. In retrospect, my first semester was BRUTAL....but then my 2nd semester was more manageable, but still busy. By then I was able to take Sundays mostly off.Whoa, you had a life in 1st year?! I'm in 1st year and definitely have no time for a life. I'm helping out on projects in 3 labs, balancing an insane amount of coursework, trying to get started on my thesis, and doing intake shifts in the clinic. I thought I had it tough last year before school started when I was working 2 jobs and doing all my apps. Boy was I wrong!
1st year: life
2nd year: less/no life
3rd year: no life
4th year: less life
5th year: more life
6th year: Life! (internship)
Wow, everyone's talking about not having a life during app season and in grad school. Maybe I don't do enough work....
Haha agreed!! Time management is truly a beautiful thing: if you really make the most of the time that you set aside for working, you can have just as much fun as you would otherwise. 🙂
This continues to be true during graduate school. We all like to whine about how busy we are, but we all do something social together at least once a week as a class, and most of us do social things or activities such as the gym multiple times a week too.
Top 3 worries:
1) Making sure everything is perfect when I hit that 'submit' button or seal the envelope before heading to the post office. I'm terrified I'll forget something or not print/upload the right draft of an SOP, etc.
2) Ensuring that my LOR writers are on top of the deadlines. I made packets for them with everything they could need- deadlines in big bold letters, instructions for submitting online, etc. I even made a face-to-face visit this week, but only 1 out of 4 has submitted for my Nov 15 deadline. 🙁
3) Once apps are all in and it's out of my control- like others have said re: timing- what will happen with my boyfriend if/when I move? I know it sounds trivial, and if I were anyone reading this I'd roll my eyes, but it took us a year to get to a realllly good place, and I don't want to see it go down the drain. He's graduating in Dec, and is trying to find a job around here, but so far hasn't found anything. But that's the only part of moving that I feel iffy about. Otherwise, I look forward to new places and people. It's scary, but I've done it before and sometimes change is good.
That last one is really big for me now because at 40 something I have "a life" -- a family with two young kids, super-reasonable mortgage, decent job with benes for the whole family, cars, community standing... Returning to graduate school is a major decision for me and the stakes are too high to f up. I don't know what special challenges I'll face in adjusting to a role other than bread-winner. Putting my family through the hell of near-poverty is hard to justify, and I hope my mate is honestly ready to step up and be the bread winner for a while. ..
until today, my worries were related to actually being in grad school, e.g., leaving my boyfriend/friends/parents when i move away to school, gaining weight, not measuring up academically. today i met with my pi and she informed me that the project manager had given her some negative feedback about me. i know it sounds paranoid but this woman has not liked me since the day we met. i have never had a problem with anyone in any research position i've held. my pi basically told me that my help isn't needed anymore. this pi just submitted my letters of rec. i am so scared that my letters from her reflect the project manager's review. if so, i think i'm screwed, despite the fact that my other two letters are excellent (former pi's at my undergrad institution). i am so mad and hurt, but at this point the damage is done.
Top 3 worries:
1) Making sure everything is perfect when I hit that 'submit' button or seal the envelope before heading to the post office. I'm terrified I'll forget something or not print/upload the right draft of an SOP, etc.
2) Ensuring that my LOR writers are on top of the deadlines. I made packets for them with everything they could need- deadlines in big bold letters, instructions for submitting online, etc. I even made a face-to-face visit this week, but only 1 out of 4 has submitted for my Nov 15 deadline. 🙁
3) Once apps are all in and it's out of my control- like others have said re: timing- what will happen with my boyfriend if/when I move? I know it sounds trivial, and if I were anyone reading this I'd roll my eyes, but it took us a year to get to a realllly good place, and I don't want to see it go down the drain. He's graduating in Dec, and is trying to find a job around here, but so far hasn't found anything. But that's the only part of moving that I feel iffy about. Otherwise, I look forward to new places and people. It's scary, but I've done it before and sometimes change is good.
hm...
I think this process has been extremely fun, playing the games, painting a portrait of yourself, next up interviewing and negotiating stipends etc, this is truly a process to be enjoyed,
🙂
hm...
well most of those things dont worry me, applications havent been stressful, the cost to apply was no more different than the other things I have applied for (i.e., med school). The thought of living as a poor graduate student doesnt scare me, I have been living like one since I started college at 16. Moving to a new place doesnt scare me, I have lived in 5 different states within the last 7-8 years, all of which were to areas where I didnt know anyone.
Not having a life doesnt scare me, having attended a year of med school, I know what not having a life is, and I am 99% sure that 1st yr psych isnt half as bad as 1st year med school, not saying psych students dont work as hard, I am just saying the rigors of course work is much worse.
Not getting in doesnt worry me either, I mean there are some sources of anxiousness, but not anxious of not getting in, purely anxious of WHERE I will get in. Its not an arrogance thing, I of course know there is always a chance of not getting in, I just figure if I do not get in somewhere, I can always do something and find happiness, I know I know we are supposed to be "miserable if I cannot go into psych" but lemme tell ya, happiness is a relative term, plain and simple, this would not be the end of the world if i do not get into a phd program.
I think this process has been extremely fun, playing the games, painting a portrait of yourself, next up interviewing and negotiating stipends etc, this is truly a process to be enjoyed, I think if you guys and girls can step back and take a moment, look at the subtle enjoyments of this process. Distress will only make things worse,
there is ALWAYS another way to what you want in life as long as you do not give up, so do not stress about it, be positive, be happy, and kick ass. Easy.
🙂
hm...
well most of those things dont worry me, applications havent been stressful, the cost to apply was no more different than the other things I have applied for (i.e., med school). The thought of living as a poor graduate student doesnt scare me, I have been living like one since I started college at 16. Moving to a new place doesnt scare me, I have lived in 5 different states within the last 7-8 years, all of which were to areas where I didnt know anyone.
Not having a life doesnt scare me, having attended a year of med school, I know what not having a life is, and I am 99% sure that 1st yr psych isnt half as bad as 1st year med school, not saying psych students dont work as hard, I am just saying the rigors of course work is much worse.
Not getting in doesnt worry me either, I mean there are some sources of anxiousness, but not anxious of not getting in, purely anxious of WHERE I will get in. Its not an arrogance thing, I of course know there is always a chance of not getting in, I just figure if I do not get in somewhere, I can always do something and find happiness, I know I know we are supposed to be "miserable if I cannot go into psych" but lemme tell ya, happiness is a relative term, plain and simple, this would not be the end of the world if i do not get into a phd program.
I think this process has been extremely fun, playing the games, painting a portrait of yourself, next up interviewing and negotiating stipends etc, this is truly a process to be enjoyed, I think if you guys and girls can step back and take a moment, look at the subtle enjoyments of this process. Distress will only make things worse,
there is ALWAYS another way to what you want in life as long as you do not give up, so do not stress about it, be positive, be happy, and kick ass. Easy.
🙂
People actually negotiate stipends?...
for #1, 4, & 5, i was there last year and wish you luck.
Now, i realize you might just be venting - but if you are really losing touch with friends and having trouble sticking to work out habits and good eating habits, i cannot stress to you enough to make changes now, even in the midst of stressful applications - make time for your friends, make time to eat and work out and sleep - and do it consistently. Because bad habits die hard and as cara susanna said, grad school is a much bigger time suck and headache than applying (although applying was probably slightly more anxiety-provoking).
Good luck!
all the people I have met coming from the NIH into clin psy phd programs have. i.e., They get into two programs, one gives better award offer but you really prefer the other school, so you try to get an equivalent financial support from that program... it does happen...
I am in no way stress free 🙂 just this isnt one of them... I understand why people might be stressed about it, but imagine NOT stressing but rather enjoying the process? shocking concept aye?
for #1, 4, & 5, I was there last year and wish you luck.
now, i realize you might just be venting - but if you are really losing touch with friends and having trouble sticking to work out habits and good eating habits, i cannot stress to you enough to make changes NOW, even in the midst of stressful applications - make time for your friends, make time to eat and work out and sleep - and do it consistently. because bad habits die hard and as cara susanna said,grad school is a much bigger time suck and headache than applying (although applying was probably slightly more anxiety-provoking).
good luck!