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Interviewed in early November and still haven’t gotten any sort of email or status update. Anyone else in my position?
yuuup.

Interviewed in mid Nov, and I haven't heard anything either. willowseeker394 says if you haven't heard anything, they still have your app. I think we'll just have to keep waiting...
yeah, you can try calling and they can look up your file but if you haven’t heard anything it’s still with the committee so who knows what that means...


is there supposed to be a next wave of acceprances?
 
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Sorry if this was posted earlier, but is the WL ranked or unranked?
I believe it's unranked, though your file still does have your interview/MMI scores.

Officially WL. Anyone know what movement is like here?
In past years, Dean Hall has said 30-40% of the class comes after May 1st, so I'm assuming a decent amount. That said, traffic rules have changed, so I'm not sure how valid these statistics are for this year.
 
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I believe it's unranked, though your file still does have your interview/MMI scores.



In past years, Dean Hall has said 30-40% of the class comes after May 1st, so I'm assuming a decent amount. That said, traffic rules have changed, so I'm not sure how valid these statistics are for this year.
What are the chances of getting a Geffen after being waitlisted? Ha, ha *cries*
 
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Didn't even know they interviewed in late January. I thought they told us in my interview day that our interview date was the last week (I was in early december). Maybe they extended the dates afterwards? Either way, seems like they are pretty disorganized.
 
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Didn't even know they interviewed in late January. I thought they told us in my interview day that our interview date was the last week (I was in early december). Maybe they extended the dates afterwards? Either way, seems like they are pretty disorganized.
Extremely. Did you read about the whole email fiasco that happened earlier this week?
 
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Anyone know how many people on the WL? Didn't the Dean say everyone would be on the WL?
Dean Hall said the WL applicants would be notified around April so hearing back in March was a little unexpected. However, about a week ago, some applicants were rejected so no, not everyone is on the WL.
 

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I just checked the portal and saw the WL. No idea how long it's been there. Should I call them to confirm since I didn't get an email?
 
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WL too, interview back in November.
Anyone know how receptive UCLA is to letter of intent? Couldn't find anything on the school website or the application portal
 
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WL too, interview back in November.
Anyone know how receptive UCLA is to letter of intent? Couldn't find anything on the school website or the application portal
For the UCLA PRIME program they do not accept letters of intent. I imagine that regular MD admissions would be similar, if not the same--anyone else have experience with this?
 
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Any current or accepted students know if it would be worth sending in a merit scholarship offer from another school to see it UCLA will match?
 
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Any current or accepted students know if it would be worth sending in a merit scholarship offer from another school to see it UCLA will match?
Yes. Say that UCLA is your top choice, but that financing it will be an issue and *smoothly* bring up your other offer.
 
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Does DGSOM have class rank / if so how is it determined?
Could be wrong, but I believe rank only exosts for 3rd and 4th year during rotations based on the honor/high pass/etc system. This is needed since they have AOA for Juniors/Seniors.
 

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Does DGSOM have class rank / if so how is it determined?
We do not rank, and the MSPE does not include a qualifier indicating what class percentile range the student falls into. AOA is determined by many things, of which class rank is not one (since it doesn't exist here). MS3/4 have H/HP/P/F system as mentioned above, but not every school with tiered grading is ranked. All schools are now required to report what percentage of each class got each grade on each rotation on the MSPE, but that's it.
 
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For anyone who got accepted off of the waitlist in previous years, would you mind sharing if this happened to you before or after the 4/30 date?

Just wondering since I’m not sure if I should start booking trips for second looks or if I should give UCLA another week or two first.

Thank you!
 
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For anyone who got accepted off of the waitlist in previous years, would you mind sharing if this happened to you before or after the 4/30 date?

Just wondering since I’m not sure if I should start booking trips for second looks or if I should give UCLA another week or two first.

Thank you!
 
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Can anyone speak to whether not receiving Geffen puts you at a disadvantage for anything during medical school? Since it's offered to a relatively large chunk of people, I'm wondering if there is a weird divide created between those who received it and those who didn't, and whether those who received it are offered additional support for things like finding research mentors, prepping for residency etc.
 

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Can anyone speak to whether not receiving Geffen puts you at a disadvantage for anything during medical school? Since it's offered to a relatively large chunk of people, I'm wondering if there is a weird divide created between those who received it and those who didn't, and whether those who received it are offered additional support for things like finding research mentors, prepping for residency etc.
From what I’ve heard, I don’t think there is an explicit divide, but geffen scholars, for the most part are quiet, about their scholarship. Imagine that 1/3 of class are struggling with 200-300k in debt while 1/3 of class are being paid 30k+ every year while getting tuition covered. The disparity is too big and understandably the non-Geffen people feel a bit bitter about this. I also hear that Geffen scholars get automatic summer research funding, but otherwise, I’m not sure about other advantages.
 

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Can anyone speak to whether not receiving Geffen puts you at a disadvantage for anything during medical school? Since it's offered to a relatively large chunk of people, I'm wondering if there is a weird divide created between those who received it and those who didn't, and whether those who received it are offered additional support for things like finding research mentors, prepping for residency etc.
I personally don't feel disadvantaged despite not having Geffen. There definitely isn't a weird divide, except for the occasional "You have Geffen right? ... oh you don't? ... ohmygoshi'msosorrythisisawkward"

If they do get extra support, I haven't in any way felt deprived in looking for a research mentor (can't speak about residency prep though). Most people don't know if you do have Geffen or don't, and even if they do I haven't heard it ever as a dividing thing. I'd say the only disadvantage is probably the disadvantage of not having a full ride scholarship haha

I also hear that Geffen scholars get automatic summer research funding, but otherwise, I’m not sure about other advantages.
They do get automatic funding for the summer, but everyone basically does as long as you turn in the research application on time.
 
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The whole Geffen scholarship thing kind of annoys me actually. It’s a little frustrating that UCLA has the ability to dramatically reduce the debt of all their students, but instead chooses to give a large portion of the class everything and more and leave everyone else struggling. This obviously doesn’t apply to everyone, but I imagine that a not insgnificant number of Geffen scholars benefited from having parents that could support them financially during school, allowing them to have the time to get amazing scores and ECs. It’s frustrating that many of those people now get a free ride through medical school while some of us who had to work actual jobs through UG are saddled with debt. Like I said, I know this isn’t true for every Geffen scholar, as there are some people on this thread that I know it doesn’t apply to. But, in light of the whole recent UG admissions scandal, it really put into perspective for me how easy children of upper class families have it in applying. I’m not talking illegal actions. I’m talking Things like paid MCAT tutoring, admissions consultation since freshman year, professional essay writing - all of that stuff could contribute to someone getting a Geffen, and it’s all the direct result of money.

I also don’t believe that there isn’t a divide between Geffen scholars and non-Geffen scholars. I’ve already talked to several current students, and each of them has asked me if I have the scholarship. I already feel like I’m less of a student/applicant because I don’t have it. I feel like it’s wrong for me to feel inferior (and to have that inferiority validated by the administration through this scholarship) to my classmates when we were all accepted to a T10 school. I don’t know - to me this seems like it creates a dysfunctional environment.

Anyway, I’m just ranting. I’m frustrated that this scholarship comes up in every conversation about the school, and I’m frustrated that I’m going to be going into a life changing amount of debt while some of my classmates will be literally paid to go to med school.
I feel you, sometimes it can feel really random as to who gets a scholarship and who doesn't as well. Especially since everyone is so academically qualified at places like UCLA. Though I think a lot of things factor into those selected in order to try and make it a level playing field. Adcoms look for things like the probability of choosing a low paying but highly needed specialty, SES disadvantaged background, the potential to go into reserach heavy career (low pay), non-traditional status (who have higher opportunity cost) etc. I like to think in the end it will all work out
 
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Has anyone made a bruin account/ filed for housing and all that? Haven't done anything other than accept the offer.
Done everything except sign up for housing. Last I checked, we can't yet, but I haven't checked in about a month.
 

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Can anyone speak to whether not receiving Geffen puts you at a disadvantage for anything during medical school? Since it's offered to a relatively large chunk of people, I'm wondering if there is a weird divide created between those who received it and those who didn't, and whether those who received it are offered additional support for things like finding research mentors, prepping for residency etc.
So I'm just going to chime in on this one. As an MS3, I can tell you based on the last three years:
  • There is NO divide in my class as to who has the scholarship and who doesn't, as far as I can tell based on the entire last 3 years. Zero. Nada. If there is another MS3 here who would like to jump in to provide a counterexample, that would be news to me. I defer to other posters about whether this is true for the c/o 2019, 2021, and 2022, but I have not heard of any issues in any other class.
  • As mentioned above, recipients stay quiet about it. If you talk to current students--again, at least in my class--I doubt many could name even 25% of classmates who have it. Even recipients have a hard time remembering who else has it. And this is after three years of being in the same classrooms and facilities together.
  • There is no advantage in med school to having it, beyond the financial one and getting automatic summer funding. But seeing as the STTP summer funding is essentially guaranteed to anyone who wants it, all the scholarship does is save you a couple pages of STTP application writing. As for everything else--research, mentors, whatever other opportunities you may be thinking of--no PIs/attendings/residents know or care who has what scholarship, and they certainly aren't going to give preference to someone with it over someone without it.
  • There are no social implications either. The recipients do not form any exclusive clique.
  • There is only one event each year that is for recipients, where the financial logistics are explained. That's it.
 
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So I'm just going to chime in on this one. As an MS3, I can tell you based on the last three years:
  • There is NO divide in my class as to who has the scholarship and who doesn't, as far as I can tell based on the entire last 3 years. Zero. Nada. If there is another MS3 here who who like to jump in to provide a counterexample, that would be news to me. I defer to other posters about whether this is true for the c/o 2019, 2021, and 2022, but I have not heard of any issues in any other class.
  • As mentioned above, recipients stay quiet about it. If you talk to current students--again, at least in my class--I doubt many could name even 25% of classmates who have it. Even recipients have a hard time remembering who else has it. And this is after three years of being in the same classrooms and facilities together.
  • There is no advantage in med school to having it, beyond the financial one and getting automatic summer funding. But seeing as the STTP summer funding is essentially guaranteed to anyone who wants it, all the scholarship does is save you a couple pages of STTP application writing. As for everything else--research, mentors, whatever other opportunities you may be thinking of--no PIs/attendings/residents know or care who has what scholarship, and they certainly aren't going to give preference to someone with it over someone without it.
  • There are no social implications either. The recipients do not form any exclusive clique.
  • There is only one event each year that is for recipients, where the financial logistics are explained. That's it.
Thanks for taking the time to answer our questions, Radiata.

On an unrelated note, I was wondering if you had any advice for those of us on the WL?
 

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Nothing profound I'm afraid. LOI accompanied by *significant* updates are unlikely to hurt if done appropriately, but it remains unclear how much they help.
 
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The whole Geffen scholarship thing kind of annoys me actually. It’s a little frustrating that UCLA has the ability to dramatically reduce the debt of all their students, but instead chooses to give a large portion of the class everything and more and leave everyone else struggling. This obviously doesn’t apply to everyone, but I imagine that a not insgnificant number of Geffen scholars benefited from having parents that could support them financially during school, allowing them to have the time to get amazing scores and ECs. It’s frustrating that many of those people now get a free ride through medical school while some of us who had to work actual jobs through UG are saddled with debt. Like I said, I know this isn’t true for every Geffen scholar, as there are some people on this thread that I know it doesn’t apply to. But, in light of the whole recent UG admissions scandal, it really put into perspective for me how easy children of upper class families have it in applying. I’m not talking illegal actions. I’m talking Things like paid MCAT tutoring, admissions consultation since freshman year, professional essay writing - all of that stuff could contribute to someone getting a Geffen, and it’s all the direct result of money.

I also don’t believe that there isn’t a divide between Geffen scholars and non-Geffen scholars. I’ve already talked to several current students, and each of them has asked me if I have the scholarship. I already feel like I’m less of a student/applicant because I don’t have it. I feel like it’s wrong for me to feel inferior (and to have that inferiority validated by the administration through this scholarship) to my classmates when we were all accepted to a T10 school. I don’t know - to me this seems like it creates a dysfunctional environment.

Anyway, I’m just ranting. I’m frustrated that this scholarship comes up in every conversation about the school, and I’m frustrated that I’m going to be going into a life changing amount of debt while some of my classmates will be literally paid to go to med school.
I'm sorry that you feel this way, but I understand where you coming from 100%. I grew up feeling inferior because I had work while others got to play and I couldn't speak English while watched others forming social groups that I can't join. When I received Geffen, the second thought that pops immediately in my mind was "Does or will this hurt my potential socialization and new friends. What do I do if someone one asks me?" I hate feel inferior, and I hate to make others feel inferior. I don't want my new friends to get stressed around me by knowing that I have Geffen. So I planned on never telling anyone that I have Geffen. I expressed this concern to all medical students(n=5, so far. more on second look) I got to talk to and the unanimous answer is no one really cared to ask around "hey do you have Geffen? I don't/I do". The general consensus I am getting is that people who attending DGSOM is very aware of others' feelings and will do nothing to bring potential pain to others just for self-pleasure or self-confidence boost. I hope my class, if any of you are reading this haha, will share this thought and just practice our version of Don't Ask, Don't Tell.