***2018-2019 URM Medical School Application Thread***

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  1. TempuraOreos

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    Yeah, that's what I have heard. Hope these schools don't change their policies this year. Also, found out while looking through my app, that my county is considered medically underserved. Never knew that. Do schools take that into consideration at all?
     
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    Adcoms probably won't know that off the bat unless its a well known medically underserved country. You could talk about it in adversity essays if it actually affected you growing up or if you want to go there and practice you can talk about that when they ask what type doctor you want to be during interviews.
     
  4. TempuraOreos

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    Hmm, I never realized we were underserved. I know my family did struggle to keep health insurance growing up (mentioned that as part of my PS because I have had major surgery before). Honestly, looking into leaving my home state longterm if possible, so don't see myself practicing here. Idk thanks for the advice though.
     
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    Hey everyone! I've been a long time lurker on SDN (mostly), but I'm finally applying this cycle, so I thought I'd join in here first!

    About Me:
    black female CA resident. economically disadvantaged (bc childhood), but didn't qualify for FAP. Submitted 05/31, verified 06/04. 3.12 cGPA, 3.03 sGPA; Includes 30 units of 4.0 postbacc GPA.

    MCAT: 512 (128 125 130 129); don't know what happened with CARS, I always scored between 128-130 on practice...

    Clinical Experience (3400+ hours): 3000+ hours as a clinical research coordinator in nephrology, 200 hours as an OB/GYN scribe (paid), 250 hours (volunteer) providing blood pressure/BMI screenings in multiple clubs.

    Volunteering (~1700 hours total, 1200 non clinical, 500 clinical): 600 hours as lead director for volunteer org addressing hypertension in black/underserved minority communities, 200 hours as a volunteer "social worker", 250 hours in a free clinic, 200 hours kidney health education/outreach, 100 volunteering with community public health organization for black women, 50 hours preparing/distributing food to the homeless w/ organization

    Research (Aside from the clinical research above; 500 hours): 250 hours research assistant in a neurology lab, 250 hours research assistant in geriatrics

    4 research posters total, 2 first author + presentation. 2 other posters co-authored.

    Teaching: 250 hours in an internship in Japan for an "Empowerment Program" for Japanese high school students.

    Other Leadership (outside of volunteering): - 700 hours as captain on a dance team on campus. Fun, but tanked my GPA. Should've dropped sooner.

    Shadowing: - 500 total hours shadowing nephrologists, OB/GYNs, & resident pediatricians.

    LORs/Other Stuff: - Very strong LOR packet, Chancellor's Service Award from undergrad, "Good" level fluency in Japanese (not of Japanese descent; CA State Seal of Biliteracy), "basic" level fluency in Tagalog/Filipino.

    GAP YEAR PLANS: clinical research coordinator position full-time + more upper level science courses & Spanish (community college)

    Mostly interested in/applying to schools offering MD/MPH programs (public health minor) + clinical research.

    School list right now:
    All UCs, all HBCUs, Vandy, Mayo, USC Keck, Tulane, UAZCOM Phoenix, U Cincinnati, Creighton, Rush, Dartmouth, Georgetown, George Washington, Loyola, U Rochester, SLU, Drexel, Rosy F, NYMC, Tufts, Hofstra, Duke, Columbia, U Chicago, Cornell, Harvard, Pitt, U Miami, JHU, Case Western, Jefferson (~40 schools total).

    Sorry for the wall of text lol. I'm kinda worried about having so many top schools on the list with such a low GPA, but was advised to add them by a few people. Definitely open to any comments on school list + cycle experiences! Best wishes for everyone!
     
  6. Nathan17182

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    I think that you'll definitely get some attention from schools. You have some great EC's and a great MCAT. I'd make sure you have schools that reward reinvention on your list especially with your 4.0 post-bacc (Pretty sure Goro has a list somewhere if you look). I have to be honest though. The top 15's and Ivies (JHU, Havard, Columbia, Duke and a few more) that you have are probably a long shot - your undergrad GPA I think is just gonna take you out of the running for them, you never know though. But regardless, you'll definitely get attention somewhere. Make sure you focus the bulk of your energy on secondaries at schools that are realistic then do reaches. 40 schools is A LOT and if you start to get behind on secondaries you'll be lost before you know it. Good luck!!
     
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    Thanks! Yeah, I've pre-written a lot of the common secondary prompts already and starting the more realistic school-specific ones today. I thought the same about those top 15s/Ivies, but Goro recommended them and I know I'll always wonder "what if" if I don't apply (even if that means a donation + rejection lol).
     
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    Submitted today. Haven't written any secondaries just yet.
     
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    I was going over my app after submission and noticed that AMCAS didn't designate me as first generation. My mother has an associate's and my father did not graduate from high school. I had always thought first generation meant parents did not have at least a four year degree. I am not sure how medical schools will take this into account, but just wanted to give a heads up.
     
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    I’m like 90% sure that Disadvantaged status/First gen status didn’t appear for me until I was verified (i.e: the sections were there after submission but didn't have a designation til post-verification).
     
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    My app is under review, but it still shows "yes" under first generation. Both my parents were "some college, no degree." Can't speak for disadvantaged since I didn't mark it.
     
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    I just noticed NYMC requires an official letterhead and signature for recommendation letters but that's the only school I've seen so far. Should I ask my writers (who have already completed the letters) to put on official letter heads & sign or will they be lenient about this?

    Also, has anyone only sent in an app with one LOR from a Sci professor versus two that the schools request?
     
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    I can see it after submitting but not verifying. It says "ready for review" and it says "No" for first generation. There isn't anything under disadvantaged but I checked yes to that. That probably won't show until after verification.
     
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    Hey everyone! I just had a stats question because I have no idea what kind of applicant I really am

    Cumulative GPA: 3.5
    S GPA: ~ 3.6
    Mcat: taking July 20
    Shadowing: 150 hours (family med, pediatrics, endocrinologist, cardiology)
    Second generation AA male (23 yrs old)
    NY resident
    Just finished up collegiate athletics after 5 years and graduate in December.

    Need help on starting the school list.
     
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    Just submitted. Another step closer.
     
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  17. Beshwaji

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    Letterhead and signature is standard practice for letters of recommendation - a professor would know this. Assume that all schools require a letter and signature because they most likely do.
     
  18. OMGaNotherPreMed

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    Served in the Navy
    Disadvantage background
    3.95 gpa
    3.97 sgpa
    MCAT 499 (120 CARS)
    ESL (immigrated to USA 6 yrs ago)
    Summer research at Yale ~150hrs
    Study abroad to Spain
    ~200 hrs surgical internship
    Club president
    Created a nonprofit program.
    Miscl. Leadership.

    I submitted my primary. Could I get some insight on prior experience.

    My cars score is low!
    Is a retake warranted?
    Eventhough my app is really strong would my MCAT keep me out of MD school?
    What schools would be appropriate for me?

    Thanks!
     
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    You'll probably get a couple interviews with your GPA and military service. If I were you, I would've retook and waited to submit. If you can bring your MCAT to a 508 or 510, you would be able pick any school you wanted to go to. The 499 will most likely get your screened out at a lot of schools. 125 is generally the cut off point for any subsection, but I've seen some people with 123 still have some success. You may get cut a little slack since you're ESL, but it's hard to say how adcoms will look at the 120. What schools did you apply to?
     
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    Howard & Morehouse.

    I’d likely retake it early August if my CARS is improving. My app would be complete and verified with my 499. But, would this put me at disadvantage since it would be late? Also, would adcoms evaluate me soley on my 499 even thought my score is pending?
     
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    Adcoms will evaluate you with whatever they have at the time they look at your application, they may take note that you're retaking though. Since you've already submitted, your app will probably be looked at before they would get your new score. Howard and Morehouse might still give you an interview.

    For a potential retake: I think you should take your time and really practice CARS. I recommend buying the ExamKracker CARS book, it has some great strategies and practice passages and then buy the CARS question pack from AAMC and do timed practice with that. Once you know how to approach CARS from EK the only authentic way to prepare further is real CARS passages which come from the question pack.

    I'm honestly not sure if you should plan to retake it for next year's cycle or if its worth taking it this cycle and updating those two schools (I'm leaning towards it would probably to late to help you out and rushing a retake is never a good idea). If you ended up doing really well, it would definitely be too late to apply to any other schools. Since I am definitely not an expert I'll tag an adcom and see what he says.

    @Goro what do you recommend in this situation?
     
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    Thank you Nathan! You are the man.
    Looking forward to some words of wisdom from @Goro!
     
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    Apply to all HBCs, your state school and some DO schools. I would plan on a retake next spring if you get no love this cycle. And many thanks for your service to our country!
     
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    Submitted! The level of neuroticism reading over that thing again and again was too real. I can only imagine how writing these secondaries is gonna go.
     
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    Hey guys I'm wondering if I would be considered URM.

    I was born in Kabul, Afghanistan. Moved here when I was 6. My parents never went to college or attained any kind of education here in the United States.

    Anyone know the answer to this?
     
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    URM is based on race and is generally Black, Mexican, Native and PR.

    Socioeconomic status and parental educational attainment are both related to the SES disadvantaged status. In one section you will input your parents info and the app will designate your status. If your upbringing interfered with your educational attainment and set you behind your peers in terms of preparedness for college, you can self designate and there is a short essay you can write illustrating your obstacles.
     
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    Yes please let me know , message me because I don’t know how to on here lol. I’m new to the forum
     
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    Just click my name and send me a private message. I can’t message you directly for some reason.
     
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    Just joined today and here's to a good cycle for all of us!
     
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    What range are you projecting for your MCAT and do you have research/clinical/volunteer experiences?
     
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    I predict 503-508
    Ive done undergrad research for 2 years and have done 150 hours of volunteering with an emphasis on underserved areas
     
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    Finally submitted today!
     
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    Like honestly, so accurate.
     
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    Good luck.
     
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    Hey everyone, I've been lurking this thread and the one from last year and I figured I might as well introduce myself.

    Black, Male, Maryland Resident
    • Recent Graduate
    • Gap Year: Research Assistant - Clinical Research
    • Cumulative GPA: 3.70
    • Science GPA: 3.70
    • MCAT Scores: 513 (127/127/130/129)
    • Research: Paid Summer Research Internship (~400 hours, 1 poster presentation), ~300 hours in other bench/clinical research but mostly grunt work.
    • Volunteering (clinical): Free Clinic (1 year - 110 hours by application time, 325 hours total projected)
    • Physician shadowing: Neurosurgery (1 year - 40 hours), Anesthesiology (6 months - 40 hours)
    • Non-clinical volunteering: Mentoring at-risk high school students (2 years - 200 hours)
    • Extracurricular activities: Leadership positions in 3 on-campus organizations
    • Employment history: worked non-science/healthcare related jobs during summers (800 hours total) and on-campus job for all four year (~1000 hours)
    • Immediate family members in medicine?: None
    • Specialty of interest - None as of now
    • Interest in rural health (y/n): Sure?
    • School list: Case Western, Columbia, Harvard, Mt. Sinai, Northwestern, Pittsburgh, UChicago, UCSF, WashU, UPenn, UVA, Yale, Brown, Einstein, Emory, Geisel, Georgetown, Howard, Miami, Ohio State, Rochester, SLU, UMD, Temple, USF
    Still haven't submitted yet but I'm planning to do so in the next day or so. Hoping we all have a great cycle!
     
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    Welcome! You’re going to have an amazing cycle!
     
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    Sounds like you have a great application! Your school list is very well put together and I hope you're ready for a bunch of interviews!
     
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    Just one acceptance and I'll be more than happy! Thanks for the support!
     
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    Appreciate the support! Congrats on getting in and good luck in med school!
     
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    Latino (Mexican/El Salvadorian) - bilingual.

    Traditional applicant. Will go into senior year in college. (Chem major).

    LA resident.

    GPA: 4.0
    MCAT: 506 (127/125/127/127)

    Experiences:

    Research: 2 years (1500+ hours) in a neurosurgery lab. 1 publication with several posters/presentations. Still working here. The lab has two components- clinical and lab bench work. I do Both. Before this I did a summer program which led to my work getting awarded and a grant to continue funding the project.

    Shadowing: 400 hours shadowing several specialties.

    Clinical volunteer: 100 hours at an emergency room.

    Non clinical volunteer: 1 year (250 hours) as a basketball assist coach working with kids that lacked a foundational support system. . Just started another position volunteering with a non profit organization.

    Lived in Mexico/ El Salvador for the summers during my high school years to experience the culture.

    Apart of two clubs: One for about 2 years and 1 for about 4 months.

    Submitted as disadvanatge (economically) and qualified for fap. Just got my app verified yesterday :).

    Anybody have any idea of where I should shoot for in terms of top schools? I’ve already applied to my state schools/ safeties but wanted to throw in some reaches. Would UCLA/Duke/Emory/UCSF give me an okay chance?

    Good luck everybody!
     
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    Damn, that’s a lot of shadowing!! What in the world, lol.

    I think UCLA for sure, someone else will have to comment on the others :)
     
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    Great app! Your 4.0 will definitely help you out along with your research hours. Really as long as you have a good few safety schools, you can add any reaches you want. If you like those 4 schools you listed then apply to those. I'd just go through the top schools and really read their mission statements and research them a bit and if you think you might like it submit an app. Since you have FAP, all you'll have to pay for beyond the 16 schools is the 26 or however much it is for extra primaries.
     
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    Hi everyone. I am a first time applicant and new to SDN

    Black female - Nigerian
    MD resident, disadvantaged
    3.41 cGPA, 3.22 sGPA (double degree in biology and public health), 4.0 sGPA and cGPA (graduate post bacc program)
    MCAT: 511 (129, 126, 128,128)

    Clinical Experience (2300+ hours): scribing, patient tech, shadowing

    paid employment: (6000+) full time restaurant position (had to work through college cause of family circumstance), full time intern for government agency (public health)

    Volunteering ( 870+ non clinical, 144 clinical): ER volunteer, intern for another government agency (public health), intern for non-profit organization, 2 volunteer trips

    Research: 700+ hours departmental honors project ( high honors) ( no publication)

    Teaching: 390 hours teaching low income and ESL kids at a local school

    Leadership: 200+ hours senate committee member, volunteer trip leader

    Gap year: MPH program and continuing paid internship at government agency

    Schools: UMD, case western, Einstein, Emory, Yale, Columbia, evms, vcu, Quinnipiac, mount Sinai, Ohio state, Morehouse, Howard, saint louis, Thomas Jefferson, u Pittsburg, u Michigan, u Chicago, Wayne state.

    Please provide any comments on school list. Good luck to everyone.
     
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    Hey Everyone !

    I am new to SDN and a first time applicant looking for some support through the process
    AA male,Haitian, NYS resident
    3.75 cGPA, 3.73 sGPA, Ivy League undergrad
    MCAT: 519 (130, 128, 131,130)

    -Shadowing: 100+ hours (in US and abroad) in many difference specialties
    -Hospital Volunteering: 150+ hours
    -Outreach to homeless community: 25 hours
    -Pre-medical study abroad program (selective, top university abroad)
    -Research: 600 hours neurobio lab, poster presentation/talks (no pubs)
    -Tutoring: 150 hours tutoring orgo/bio
    -LORs: Should all be strong/personal
    -Strong PS
    -Medical education intern at a hospital (360 hours)
    -Experience as a standardized patient for medical students
    -Gap year: working at large cancer center

    Applying: NY Schools: Mount Sinai, Columbia, Cornell, NYU, Downstate, Einstein, Stony Brook, NYMC, Albany. Other: Georgetown, GW, Yale, Upenn, Harvard, UConn, Tufts, BU, Rutgers, Brown

    Let me know what you think about the school list/chances! Any feedback appreciated
     
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    Wow, you're golden! Congratulations in advance on your multiple acceptances lol
     
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    You have a very balanced list, I think you'll have a very successful cycle! If there are any other top schools you're interested in, definitely apply to them. As I was told at the beginning of my cycle, don't underestimate how in demand you'll be. Be ready for tons of interviews!

    One note: I'm curious about your pre-medical study abroad program - Was it a shadowing program, a medical mission trip, or classes? If it was a medical mission trip and you paid for the program, I would just be mindful of how you talk about it. I did a medical mission trip and didn't get any negative feedback from it but I definitely took time to explain the program and stress that it wasn't medical tourism and I was apart of the club before and after I went on the trip.
     
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    LOL thank you! I am hoping for the best and for at least 1 NY school. It looks like you're going to have an amazing cycle as well! Best of luck to us both
     
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    Thank you! I am glad you think the list is well balanced. I wanted a mix of state schools as well as reach schools.

    The pre-medical study abroad program was classes, with the opportunity to shadow at several different clinics as well while abroad. I took several biology/health courses and have a separate transcript for them. Thank you for the heads up though! Always good to know the distinction between the different types of programs overseas.
     
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    Great! Again, if there are any other schools that you're interested in definitely apply! I'll recommend WashU and UChicago (they are both known for being very generous with financial aid as well).
     
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    Hey! U seem like a solid applicant. I wouldn't sell yourself too short even with the lower undergrad gpa. Especially with all of your hours. Apply to schools u match with stat-wise, but also throw some reaches in there if u feel your story/experience is compelling (& u have funds/time). Overall, best of luck. I wish I had your app going in :)
     
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    I already know you're getting an acceptance with a scholarship this cycle. Get the secondaries in on time and you're golden.
     
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    @A50
    EDIT: I'd also apply to every school near/in Chicago/Illinois, especially Rush (but I'm biased). Actually consider more schools in the Midwest. We tend to be more forgiving & holistic in my opinion.
     

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