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A bad MCAT = Adcoms look down on your GPA?

Discussion in 'MCAT Discussions' started by 229141, Dec 31, 2008.

  1. 229141

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    So say you have a student with a high gpa (>3.9) at an average institution. We also have a guy with 3.5 or so at an Ivy League. The high gpa student at a state school scores only a 27...while the ivy league kid gets a 36.

    In my opinion, this would cause the adcoms to question the difficulty of the state school. Would they think "Wow a 3.9 student can only get a 27, must be an easy school"....I tend to think this is the case honestly.



    ***Not saying 27 Mcat is THAT bad**
     
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    the adcoms perception of the gpa varies depending on the state school. some state schools are actually very respectable (penn state is an example that comes to mind), and some can be considered your run of the mill state schools, but in the end, a 3.9+ gpa at any university should be considered strong. usually, the adcoms will ask why there is such a discrepancy for the good state school student with a relatively low mcat if granted the interview, which is highly possible for a 3.9 and balanced 27 mcat (especially at state schools)
     
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    No one here can know for sure what an adcom thinks, except for the few adcoms on here. My guess, they don't look at both the GPA and MCAT in that way. Besides, it's not like there haven't been people with high GPAs that get a subpar MCAT regardless of their school. This is this, that is that.
     
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    if it makes this person (hypothetical or not) feel any better. The magic number to be considered "a competitive applicant" for an average not so great not so bad medical school is 65.

    GPA x10 + MCAT > 65

    3.9 x10 + 27 = 66.
     
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    Interesting! I never get sick of fun little formulas like that :)

    I wasn't really worried...just had friend who was bashing on my GPA because I go to state school and he goes to a nice preppy 40,000 a year place. Although his is probably harder mine is no joke..
     
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    Some friend if he's making fun of your GPA.
     
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    I agree w/the OP except it would apply in this following case as well:

    Ivy kid: 3.9, 27 MCAT
    State kid: 3.5, 36 MCAT

    State kid wins.
     
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    In any case, I think most universities have been around long enough and have had enough students apply to medical schools in their history, that medical schools have pretty much developed their opinion on how "difficult" a school is. At this point, occasional fluctuations like this probably won't have any impact on the adcom's opinions about the undergrad school.
     
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    I think it desrves attention if I were on the admin.

    Just think the percentile of a 36 compared to a 27. Huge difference. They use it to "standardize".

    I would give the 36 more weight.

    This is coming from a 4.0 science GPA and a 3.9 in pharm school with a 27 MCAT. I averaged much higher on practice tests (33) but just can not take a standardized test well. Never have and probably never will. I can not think well when I am nervous. I have tried not to be and have gotten better but I still just can not execute in this one arena.

    I can do well in class and in clinical practice but just not on standardized tests. I really wish I could. Be glad if you can!!!
     
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    Do a lot of people score in the teens? I thought that was almost unheard of.
     
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    I certainly agree. I was just giving an alternate example. :p

    Anyways another thing to keep in mind is that people with 3.0 GPA aren't going to just magically pull off a 40+ MCAT unless they really work it, but it is doable, just rare. Everyone out there with low GPAs somehow think they are going to get a 40+. I'm one of those and honoestly, I know I'm probably not gonna get that, but it's worth a try right.
     
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    What do you think is the cause of such a low score for people whose native language is English? Is the curriculum at USF too laxed or is it just test-taking ability on the part of the tester? I ask because USF seems to be highly respected in FL and it's odd that so many of their students would score sub-20 on the MCAT.

    Here's a for instance... If someone did get 18 or 19 which indicates to me some gap in knowledge, what are the odds they'd end up 30+ on their second try? Have you ever seen it happen?
     
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    Shouldn't the student be able to explain a "lower" that expected MCAT score, maybe something happened that day or something. Is that for GPA x 10 + MCAT formula strictly enforced or just a rule of thumb?
     

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