why is it that people look down on the caribbean schools as inferior? is it because they have low standards of admission or is the medical education they give really just inferior in every way?
why is it that people look down on the caribbean schools as inferior? is it because they have low standards of admission or is the medical education they give really just inferior in every way?
A lot of people look down on Caribbean schools because they'll admit anyone. For instance, a friend of mine was failing organic chem I freshman year and was pre-med. So, he applied and was accepted to one of the caribbean medical schools with no more than a high school diploma and less than a semester of university.
My professor was talking to me about the types of students who he has seen over the years, specifically the ones that have gone on to apply to med school. He spoke of one student that in his opinion was simply not ready for medical school. He couldnt speak english very well, he didnt do well in his classes, wasn't motivated, etc. etc. The point of the story was that this was the only time my prof had ever written a poor letter of recommendation. Legitmately he said he wrote along the lines of "do not accept this person in to your program, he is not ready for x, y, z reasons." To his amazement, the student was still accepted to the caribbean schools (i dont know which ones).
My professor was talking to me about the types of students who he has seen over the years, specifically the ones that have gone on to apply to med school. He spoke of one student that in his opinion was simply not ready for medical school. He couldnt speak english very well, he didnt do well in his classes, wasn't motivated, etc. etc. The point of the story was that this was the only time my prof had ever written a poor letter of recommendation. Legitmately he said he wrote along the lines of "do not accept this person in to your program, he is not ready for x, y, z reasons." To his amazement, the student was still accepted to the caribbean schools (i dont know which ones).
They've already resigned themselves to having really low STEP scores, so what does it matter to them if you reach the end of your first two years there without getting prepared for that exam?
Ohhh, so that's why pretty much every US allo school seems to have "above average" STEP scores
We had AP credit for Gen Chem I & II.
Not all schools accept AP credit for Gen Chem I/II.
You should try to get into a US medical school first. However, if it fails time and again, go to St. George's. A physician that I know went there, and he was one of two people in the country who got a perfect score on Step 1. The school you go to doesn't make the doctor, what you put into it makes the doctor. Good luck!
Erm, as far as I know/have read, no one has ever gotten a perfect score (300) on the step one. Ever.
wow I didnt know you could take organic chemistry your freshman year?
At my college, the normal sequence was 2 quarters of o-chem in the first year, then another quarter sophomore year.wow I didnt know you could take organic chemistry your freshman year?
A lot of people look down on Caribbean schools because they'll admit anyone. For instance, a friend of mine was failing organic chem I freshman year and was pre-med. So, he applied and was accepted to one of the caribbean medical schools with no more than a high school diploma and less than a semester of university.
Yeah, he just got back now and is studying for step 1 so that he can do the clinical portion of med school. It seems that the school he went to has some deal with one of the medical schools in state. So, if he passes, he will get to finish his md education here. However, I wonder if he'll be competitive for any of the top residency programs.Did he attend?
Unless x, y, or z was "he will not be able to secure a loan to pay for medical education," I'm not surprised
Seriously, the reason Carrib schools are looked down upon goes beyond simply the fact that they'll let anyone in; the main reason they are seen as a last resort is that once you're in, they do very little to keep you there. As a for-profit institution, once they have your first semester's tuition in hand, you're pretty much on your own; beyond giving you the bare minimum required instruction, they will do essentially nothing to help you be successful. They've already resigned themselves to having really low STEP scores, so what does it matter to them if you reach the end of your first two years there without getting prepared for that exam?
Here's a thought, maybe the reason why people with low MCAT scores and college GPAs get into St. George's University in Grenada is because those things are not required for entry into medical school. By the way that is not the only medical school in the Caribbean. There is also the University of the West Indies, which is a very good medical school and graduate institution in general where you go to school at either the campus in Trinidad or in Jamaica depending on what you want to specialise in. I am from the Caribbean so I know enough about this. In the Caribbean and in the British school system which is what is followed in the Caribbean, you can start medical school straight out of secondary school when you are 18 years old. For instance at the secondary school I went to you decide what field you want to study at the age of 13 then study that (in my case Biology, Chemistry, Physics, Mathematics and Additional Mathematics in addition to the usual English Language/Literature, French and Spanish) until you are 18 and start a medical program at a school of medicine. I had long ago decided that I wanted to get a liberal arts education in the USA so I received my undergrad education here and am now applying to medical school while people I was in class with have been doctors since they were 22.
Different strokes for different folks. In most people's eyes, St. George's may not be on the same "level" as most American schools, but by no means blanket these school and put them down. If it isn't for you then don't consider it an option. Like another poster said, med school is what you make of it. There are hundreds of thousands of doctors around the world who did not get their MDs in the USA and I suspect they are doing just fine and doing a great job of caring for people in their respective countries.
Ohhh, so that's why pretty much every US allo school seems to have "above average" STEP scores
Yeah, he just got back now and is studying for step 1 so that he can do the clinical portion of med school. It seems that the school he went to has some deal with one of the medical schools in state. So, if he passes, he will get to finish his md education here. However, I wonder if he'll be competitive for any of the top residency programs.
key words being "if he can get a good step 1 score." Considering that he was failing our freshman classes, I wonder if he can. However, I wish him the best of luck since he's my best friend. But, I'm really not sure he'll pass.So he's gonna have his MD at ~23yo? (assuming he started college right after high school) I don't think thats a bad deal if he can get a good step 1 score.