Accelerated Programs

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[skypilot]

I think there is a graduate of the Australian med schools on this forum named Kimberly Cox. The programs for high school graduates are 6 years in length I believe. England and Ireland also have programs for high school graduates.

I think the Australian school year term starts in February not in September but the application deadline is July. Also check out AtlanticBridge.com for the six year programs in Ireland.

Look up Flinders, Melbourne, Sydney, Queensland on the internet. There is also an extremely long thread on Australian admissions by the Pill Counter on this forum.

Good luck!

 

[skypilot]

Don't forget about the accelerated programs in the U.S. I know Boston University and several other schools have one. I think they might be 7 years in length.

 

[Winged Scapula]

Originally posted by skypilot
I think there is a graduate of the Australian med schools on this forum named Kimberly Cox. The programs for high school graduates are 6 years in length I believe. England and Ireland also have programs for high school graduates.

I think the Australian school year term starts in February not in September but the application deadline is July. Also check out AtlanticBridge.com for the six year programs in Ireland.

Look up Flinders, Melbourne, Sydney, Queensland on the internet. There is also an extremely long thread on Australian admissions by the Pill Counter on this forum.

Good luck!

I am happy to talk about the Australian schools at anytime. However, Flinders no longer takes students without undergraduate degrees - I believe only Monash in Melbourne actively does, with the others moving toward the "American" 4 year model, requiring students to have a Baccalaureate before matriculation.

There are however 6 other medical schools in Australia (at last count I believe) which take HS "leavers" (ie, those who have just graduated and have not completed college/university); this would include Adelaide University, University of New South Wales, the afore-mentioned Monash, Perth and perhaps James Cook.

Hope this helps.

 

[The Pill Counter]

To that list, add Melbourne (6yr MBBS/BMEDSci and 7yr MBBS/BA), Newcastle (5yr BMed) and UofTasmania (6yr MBBS).

 

[skypilot]

The programs are 6 years. As I understand it the first two years will be basic undergraduate sciences, the second two years will be basic medical sciences and the last two years will be clinical. You will get a MBBS (a bachelors degree in Medicine) which is the equivalent of an MD. If you end up practicing in the US you can put MD after your name.

If you do an accelerated program in the US the first three years will be basic undergraduate sciences. The next two will be basic medical sciences and the last two will be clinical.

Happy New Year

 

[maxheadroom]

ACT of 23 seems pretty low for applying to med school. You definitely wouldn't be competitive for US accelerated programs.

 

[pre-med lost]

You may also want to look into European programs. Some are good and some not so good. There is one program in Bulgaria that looks good and costs not nearly as much as some of the other programs. I'm considering their 4-yr program for myself. Take a look at their website and see what you think. www.varnamed.org:)

 

[redshifteffect]

Hello,

I'm a Canadian currently attending medical school in Tasmania (Australia) (after completing highschool, I do not have an undergraduate degree) and I think that I should recommend Aussie med schools to you.

Here are the following reasons:

1) Aussie med schools do have an international reputation and when returning to North America this DOES make a difference, because they know the quality of education you are receiving.

2) Have you ever considered what you would do if you weren't to get into the specialist training program you want in the US/Canada? Well Australia is a good 2nd choice. Since you have completed an Aussie medical degree it is very hard for them to treat you unfairly or as an IMG, you would need to get a PR to stay but this is not as difficult as may seem providing you meet their criteria. I always take with a grain of salt ppl who would choose places like Britain or Ireland over Australia, not because their education is substandard or anything (believe me they have first rate education) but because so many doctors come to the US/Canada/Australia from these countries. They feel that they can not establish a practice in these countries and that the medical system there is unfair. So you can not practice in these countries once you graduate.

3) Doctors in the US work a lot harder than doctors in Australia. I'm not trying to put anyone down but even in rural Tasmania all of my profs, many docs and consultants are all American/Canadian. One of my profs got excepted into a combined MD/Ph.D program at some prestiogious American Uni...and after finishing his degree came to Tas!! Now in Australia you make more money than Canadian docs (cause the dollar is now at par and they have a two tier healthcare system, so no caps on your salary) and you make roughly the same as American docs (even with the exchange rate) but YOU DON"T WORK AS HARD!!

4) I wish all of you good luck in whatever you do.

If you have any questions/comments please email me: [email protected]

Oh in case you all are wondering why I chose Tas as opposed to Melbourne or Monash (got accepted to both) the answer is because :

1) Tas is cheaper
2) if you want to stay it's better to do your intern from a rural area so that you are given some preference when you want to do your specialization
3) its a nice, quiet, cheap place to live
4) Ranked 3rd overall in Australia (yes higher than Flinders or Newcastle or some of the other "prestigous" Unis)

Later.

 

[Bevo]

there are a few accelerated programs I know of.

UTdallas and TCOM have a 7 year program if you want to do DO.

Brandeis had an earlier acceptance program for Einstein, Tufts and another school I believe. You applied your sophmore year and they accepted 2-3 students.

I have heard of a program involving Baylor medical school. Grew up with a girl who did it.

if you search around I be you can find some more.

 

[atlram]

You might want to check out the following book at your local college library. It has list of all the US accelerated programs that accept students directly from high school.

Here is the most recent version of this book...

Medical School Admission Requirements (MSAR) 2003-2004

you can order it from either the aamc website or amazon. i heard St.Georges and few other carib schools also have these programs.

good luck.

 

[redshifteffect]

Oh forgot to tell you that the two that I remember getting into (accel.) med programs in the US were Case Western reserve and Brown.

Brown was a bit harder, Case was a bit easier.

P.S. in Australia the 6 year programs don't do 2 years of undergraduate studies, basically your undergraduate studies (first 2 years) are the basic medical sciences...the remaining four years are pure clincial

 

[Patchie]

Originally posted by redshifteffect


Oh in case you all are wondering why I chose Tas as opposed to Melbourne or Monash (got accepted to both) the answer is because :

1) Tas is cheaper
2) if you want to stay it's better to do your intern from a rural area so that you are given some preference when you want to do your specialization
3) its a nice, quiet, cheap place to live
4) Ranked 3rd overall in Australia (yes higher than Flinders or Newcastle or some of the other "prestigous" Unis)

Later. [/B]

Hi redshifteffect,

what year are you in at tassie? I'm at monash, in 2nd year (took a year off before i started with the hardass entry program thing that year). I applied for Monash and Tas. And was lucky enough to get offers from both. I chose monash, because of the fact that it was five years (2 pre-clinical and 3 clinical) and received a long accreditation from the AMC (aus med council). I heard at the time that Tas was having accreditation probs, how's that going now?

One other question, where was the ranking that you quoted? (with Tas being 3rd overall)? I'd like to check it out.

 

[redshifteffect]

Originally posted by Patchie
Hi redshifteffect,

what year are you in at tassie? I'm at monash, in 2nd year (took a year off before i started with the hardass entry program thing that year). I applied for Monash and Tas. And was lucky enough to get offers from both. I chose monash, because of the fact that it was five years (2 pre-clinical and 3 clinical) and received a long accreditation from the AMC (aus med council). I heard at the time that Tas was having accreditation probs, how's that going now?

One other question, where was the ranking that you quoted? (with Tas being 3rd overall)? I'd like to check it out.

Ranking: Australian Good Guides to universities It was a magazine so I don't have the link, but it shouldl be on the net somewhere

Hey are you an international or local student? if you're international PM me with your email so we can keep in touch.

I'm about to finish 2nd year..I hope

Hahahah the accrediation thing was just a rouse by the AMC...regardless of what really happened we were either going to get a degree from Melbourne or Tas, so I was kinda hoping we would not get accredited.

Basically what the deal was with that was that Tas had a very didactic course ie all the subjects were seperated but starting with the year before me they have gone very very integrated because the AMC wanted them to change their style of teaching (part of the reaccrediation process) but there really wasn't any treat. Bad thing about this was that the course became basically mostlyl exam with very little internal marks.