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"Acknowledged" on a paper that went to major conference--put on AMCAS?

Discussion in 'Pre-Medical - MD' started by Tweetie_bird, May 23, 2002.

  1. Tweetie_bird

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    so..the title says it all.
    I was acknowledged for the work I did on data collection and analysis (I did probably 90 percent of the work on it, and only got an acknowledgement out of it) on a study. Do you think I should put it down as a Post Sec Exp?

    FYI: the first author on that paper is also writing me an LOR. So, whaddya think?
     
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  3. darkmatter

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    I don't think there's any harm in putting that in.
     
  4. Legend

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    I don't think you should put it down unless you are the author of the paper.
     
  5. Tweetie_bird

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    true...yet, I feel like a LOT of work went into this thing and I wish I had something to show for it. :( it involved tons of time sitting at the computer punching out stats, going through medical charts, speaking to patients on the phone ..stuff like that....it's even mentioned in my LOR... **sigh** anybody else?
     
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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Tweetie_bird:
    <strong>true...yet, I feel like a LOT of work went into this thing and I wish I had something to show for it. :( it involved tons of time sitting at the computer punching out stats, going through medical charts, speaking to patients on the phone ..stuff like that....it's even mentioned in my LOR... **sigh** anybody else?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I think it is great that it is mentioned in your LOR. Listing it on your AMCAS will be possibly repetitive?
     
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    Definitely include the experience, but put it under "research", not "publications". Then in the explaination field explain what you did and mention you were "acknowledged" in the presentation. Also mention your LOR writer by name. The Adcomm should be able to make all connections from there easily.
     
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    I absolutely think you should include that in your application. That could definitely be a starting topic in your interviews. I also think that you learned and exemplified valuable skills that you could rely on in medical school and in your profession.
     
  9. Spudster

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    Racergirl has the right idea. The emphasis should be on the research you did, not on the outcome, though it may be laudable. There is quite a bit of variability in the quality of what gets published, and most certainly in the fairness of attributing credit, so it would be best to just talk about the research experience and let them judge for themselves how meritorious you are. If I were reading an application, I think it would definitely be better to read an understated, rather than an overstated, application. Be clear about what you contributed, but don't stretch. You were not published in the traditional sense of the word that most adcom members will recognize.
     
  10. Tweetie_bird

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    awesome advice, guys. A big THANK YOU!!!

    You are right, I should understate that a bit because by no means does it authenticate what I did while I worked there. It was just a small perk. :) Plus, I have had other publications where I am an acutal author, so I thought it would be stretching it too much to list an acknowledgement. but you're right, I'll just leave it as "research" and mention that I got acknowledged. Thanks again.

    ((bumping this for T-Bruin))
    Tweetie
     
  11. Legend

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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Tweetie_bird:
    <strong>awesome advice, guys. A big THANK YOU!!!

    You are right, I should understate that a bit because by no means does it authenticate what I did while I worked there. It was just a small perk. :) Plus, I have had other publications where I am an acutal author, so I thought it would be stretching it too much to list an acknowledgement. but you're right, I'll just leave it as "research" and mention that I got acknowledged. Thanks again.

    ((bumping this for T-Bruin))
    Tweetie</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">If you already have publications, why are you so concerned about 'acknowledgement'? :D
    That's awesome.
     
  12. Tweetie_bird

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    good question, Legend. And I'll be honest. Aside from getting "bragging rights" in regard to it (hey, it was also the first time I saw my name on a medical paper, so it's kinda close to my heart ::sniff sniff: :) , I thought that the acknowledgement would be good to have on AMCAS so they may ask me about the specific project that I did (which was AWESOME) and what I learned from it. In all seriousness, I loved doing what I did, and for a while I was even the author on the paper, but due to "politics" had to be brought down to an acknowledgement. That is the extent of my input on the paper.

    I just thought having it on there, would help AD COMS start thinking about what specifically I did FOR the project (which involved a considerable patient contact). I think that WHAT I did on the project would impress them more than the actual acknowledgement. The acknowledgement is just a bait to throw at them and start talking about my experiences in working at that project/clinic which are far too much to sum up in 510 characters. Know what I mean? Thanks for your input though, I like hearing your advice. <img border="0" alt="[Clappy]" title="" src="graemlins/clappy.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[Clappy]" title="" src="graemlins/clappy.gif" />
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  13. brickmanli

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    My only advice is to keep your list as concise as possible, reading that you were aknowledged in a paper might detract from your real publications. Unless it was a paper published in a major major paper that was revisited in Scientific American, don't put this in the publication category. Did you get published in a different lab? Then put it with research.
     
  14. Tweetie_bird

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    yeap, I have worked in two different clinics and had an acknowledgement with one and actual publications with the other.
    I shall do as you all are indicating--leave it as research and only in the desc. mention that I got acknowledged for it.
    Thanks much.
     
  15. T-bruin

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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Tweetie_bird:
    <strong>awesome advice, guys. A big THANK YOU!!!

    You are right, I should understate that a bit because by no means does it authenticate what I did while I worked there. It was just a small perk. :) Plus, I have had other publications where I am an acutal author, so I thought it would be stretching it too much to list an acknowledgement. but you're right, I'll just leave it as "research" and mention that I got acknowledged. Thanks again.

    ((bumping this for T-Bruin))
    Tweetie</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Thanks Tweetie!
     
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    Tweetie bird:

    At your stage, this sort of thing typically belongs under "employment experience" or "research experience". Certainly not under "publications". It is typical for a research assistant -- not so much in biomedical research, but definitely in the field of economics -- to do 90% of the work yet get listed as an "acknolwedgement".

    Happened to me many times.

    Cheers
    -a.
     

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