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At my one of my interviews one of the admissions people said something like "I read student doctor net and I know that everyone says we make you wait a lot during interviews." So that got me thinking, is it right for people involved in the admissions process to be reading this site? Do you guys think it's a good thing or a bad thing? I personally think of this forum as a private place for us to discuss our difficulties and experiences with the process and feel like an admissions person reading the forum is not cool.
 
badlydrawnvik said:
At my one of my interviews one of the admissions people said something like "I read student doctor net and I know that everyone says we make you wait a lot during interviews." So that got me thinking, is it right for people involved in the admissions process to be reading this site? Do you guys think it's a good thing or a bad thing? I personally think of this forum as a private place for us to discuss our difficulties and experiences with the process and feel like an admissions person reading the forum is not cool.

Last time I checked, it was a free country. They can read whatever they want.
 
i do find that it takes away from the "private" feel to the forums, but then again, the adcoms who do reply do give very helpful info

....it's kinda like an ethics question 🙂
 
I had an adcom member tell me they monitor their school interview feedback. If students are having bad interview experiences she tries to find the reason and correct the problem.
 
As long as it remains anonymous I think it can be more helpful than harmful. And also as long as someone who got rejected from a school doesn't go around bashing the school for no good reason.

SDN is an invaluable resource. I think it really helps us loony pre-meds have a place where we feel like we belong and where we can learn as much as possible about this crazy process.

We're all nervous, insecure, and probably anal as well. 😳 But knowledge is power, and when you can learn about something you don't fear it or worry about it as much. There are others who have gone through this process before us and survived, and SDN is a great support group.

But like anything, there is always the potential for abuse, and a few bad apples can ruin the entire thing for everyone. However, I don't think I could have gone through this process a second time without the help of SDN. It helps me socialize more, and relax as well. And I usually learn something from reading all the posts as well!

Maybe adcoms will read all our threads and realize that most of us really are dedicated to medicine, and just want to be given the opportunity to try to be the best doctors we can.
 
Yes they can read what they want, but is it right? Some schools have tests with an honor code and no professor present, the option to cheat is there but you don't do it. I do agree that it could be helpful to the admissions process, but at the same time as C.P. Jones said it does really take away from the private feeling.
 
I don't mind. But if they read here, it would be nice if they could post every now and then too 🙂
 
TheDarkSide said:
Last time I checked, it was a free country. They can read whatever they want.


you sure this is a free country?.....oh yeah that's right...it is supposed to be a free country.

😛
 
BrettBatchelor said:
That's why I don't say anything crazy on these boards.
That is why I post all kinds of horrible things, and then say, "My real name is Brett Batchelor." Gotta eliminate the competition ya know! 😉 :laugh: :laugh:
 
I'm surprised by this. I'm a little nervous, because I'm much less anonymous than many here. I many how many non-trad military pilots are applying to medical school this year? :laugh:

I really appreciate the real feedback we get from the few posts they leave. I mean we give our most informed opinions, but their advice is no-kidding accurate, at least for their school. REL is so cool, I wish I wanted to live in Florida :laugh:
 
Flopotomist said:
That is why I post all kinds of horrible things, and then say, "My real name is Brett Batchelor." Gotta eliminate the competition ya know! 😉 :laugh: :laugh:
Too bad by the time you ruin both of our chances, I'll be incognito and you will be a third year.

Also there is no way you could be convincing as a libertarian/republican :laugh:
 
badlydrawnvik said:
At my one of my interviews one of the admissions people said something like "I read student doctor net and I know that everyone says we make you wait a lot during interviews." So that got me thinking, is it right for people involved in the admissions process to be reading this site? Do you guys think it's a good thing or a bad thing? I personally think of this forum as a private place for us to discuss our difficulties and experiences with the process and feel like an admissions person reading the forum is not cool.
Heh, it aint private, my friend. I'm even considering removing my mdapplicants profile, but I don't think schools go to great lengths to cross-correlate SDN posts to mdapplicants.com profiles.
 
On a serious note, it would be nice if a few adcom members would post a few faq responses on here - but I don't blame them for not doing it, it would devolve into a mad post with 2 bazillion individual "what are my chances" type posts.
 
I'm extremely doubtful that any adcom member would scrutinize the SDN posting history of any one individual to the extent that they could identify that person in an interview.

Except for Moosepilot of course 😉
 
badlydrawnvik said:
Yes they can read what they want, but is it right? Some schools have tests with an honor code and no professor present, the option to cheat is there but you don't do it. I do agree that it could be helpful to the admissions process, but at the same time as C.P. Jones said it does really take away from the private feeling.
Umm...there was nothing signed saying that this forum was public to everybody BUT admissions committees. I think your analogy is faulty. For all we know BrettBachelor is the Dean of Admissions at Duke.

So be aware of what you write.
 
i need to clean up my act on SDN.
-mota
 
I was talking to the associate director at the office admissions at Emory, and i asked her about SDN beacuse i think she mentioned it. She went on to say she reads it, was (jokingly) upset about some of the negative interview feedback, and continuted to stay how she reads the boards to look for her name and looks for posts about the school. Interesting, no?
 
Flopotomist said:
On a serious note, it would be nice if a few adcom members would post a few faq responses on here - but I don't blame them for not doing it, it would devolve into a mad post with 2 bazillion individual "what are my chances" type posts.

I love your avatar! :laugh:
 
thegenius said:
Umm...there was nothing signed saying that this forum was public to everybody BUT admissions committees. I think your analogy is faulty. For all we know BrettBachelor is the Dean of Admissions at Duke.

So be aware of what you write.
I wish...
 
jmnykrkts said:
I'm extremely doubtful that any adcom member would scrutinize the SDN posting history of any one individual to the extent that they could identify that person in an interview.

Except for Moosepilot of course 😉

Definite exception. Certain things render you no longer anonymous. There is one C-17 pilot on this forum and that is in all my applications, so guess what :laugh:

Getting a 43 on the MCAT kind of ruins some people's anonymity. Not that I'd know anyone like that 😛
 
DaMota said:
i need to clean up my act on SDN.
-mota

No way.

It's posts like "I've done nothing but play with my balls all morning" that keep this place fresh. (see 'senioritis' thread)
 
lizanne11 said:
I love your avatar! :laugh:
Me too! Flop, I actually printed it off and stuck it on my flying squirrel's cage. Hey, at least he can fly like SuperSquirrel!

I didn't really have anything to add besides this divergence, but I will say that if we're 'allowed' to scrutinize the MSAR, USNews, student opinions, city reviews, interview feedback, faculty positions and publications, etc. about the schools, they should be 'allowed' to do as they wish with our history.

Of course, if they start asking questions about the purple elephant we drew in 2nd grade that won an honorable mention at the school art fair, they'd be taking it a bit far...
 
dajimmers said:
Me too! Flop, I actually printed it off and stuck it on my flying squirrel's cage. Hey, at least he can fly like SuperSquirrel!

I didn't really have anything to add besides this divergence, but I will say that if we're 'allowed' to scrutinize the MSAR, USNews, student opinions, city reviews, interview feedback, faculty positions and publications, etc. about the schools, they should be 'allowed' to do as they wish with our history.

Of course, if they start asking questions about the purple elephant we drew in 2nd grade that won an honorable mention at the school art fair, they'd be taking it a bit far...
Thanks.. I actually changed mine from my real pic after people had me paranoid that adcommers were going to see me posting in here and uhm.. critque my spelling or something.
 
i post on here with my alias as my initials. my mdapplicants makes me easily identifiable to anyone with a little info. the point is, i dont care, this is a public forum, and i act accordingly. but i agree it would be great for adcoma reading the board to start faq threads for their respective schools.
 
Hmmm....I wonder if they are reading right now. Hello adcoms? It's me, Toxic. I love you! Pick me pick me!!

oops was that out loud?? :laugh:
 
badlydrawnvik said:
At my one of my interviews one of the admissions people said something like "I read student doctor net and I know that everyone says we make you wait a lot during interviews." So that got me thinking, is it right for people involved in the admissions process to be reading this site? Do you guys think it's a good thing or a bad thing? I personally think of this forum as a private place for us to discuss our difficulties and experiences with the process and feel like an admissions person reading the forum is not cool.

On the contrary: This a free public forum.
 
I think it's a good thing if they read SDN
it gives them honest feedback about themselves and maybe it gives them advice on how to improve the process

and besides, it's not like they know who is who
 
badlydrawnvik said:
At my one of my interviews one of the admissions people said something like "I read student doctor net and I know that everyone says we make you wait a lot during interviews." So that got me thinking, is it right for people involved in the admissions process to be reading this site? Do you guys think it's a good thing or a bad thing? I personally think of this forum as a private place for us to discuss our difficulties and experiences with the process and feel like an admissions person reading the forum is not cool.

Ohmagod! I had the same thing happen at one of my interviews. The admissions person's response was, "we hear you and we are trying to improve things."
 
badlydrawnvik said:
At my one of my interviews one of the admissions people said something like "I read student doctor net and I know that everyone says we make you wait a lot during interviews." So that got me thinking, is it right for people involved in the admissions process to be reading this site? Do you guys think it's a good thing or a bad thing? I personally think of this forum as a private place for us to discuss our difficulties and experiences with the process and feel like an admissions person reading the forum is not cool.

ACK! They will know my face by my avatar!
 
badlydrawnvik said:
At my one of my interviews one of the admissions people said something like "I read student doctor net and I know that everyone says we make you wait a lot during interviews." So that got me thinking, is it right for people involved in the admissions process to be reading this site? Do you guys think it's a good thing or a bad thing? I personally think of this forum as a private place for us to discuss our difficulties and experiences with the process and feel like an admissions person reading the forum is not cool.


I haven't read the responses in this thread. But, I think it would be unrealistic to restrict them from this site. It would be like restricting them from watching a particular TV show/movie on the tube. As with anything, posters need to be careful in order to remain anonymous.
 
I don't think we want to restrict them from this site. Here we gripe, moan, complain, and salute those who do a horrible or great job. But we never say it to the admissions offices even after we're accepted. Certainly they should be able to get that information from somewhere. And let's not forget REL, who is in admissions in Florida - he's full of really awesome information and posts regularly on SDN.
 
If the admissions people reads SDN then I am in serious trouble:
(a) I made a thread about Downstate Admissions sucking monkey balls (exact title of the thread)---got rejected from there by the way.
(b) I posted numerous times about the flip-flopping of adcoms and recently compared this to their inability to choose which undergarment to wear.
(c) I made several comparisons to the application process and dropping a soap while bathing at Ryker's Island.
In hindsight, I really should not use my real name here.

Umm...if anyone from the adcoms at Rochester, Upstate, Stony, MCW, Vermont, Einstein, NYMC, Cornell, Drexel, Temple, SLU is reading this, I just want to say I love your school. In my opinion, you are the Harvard of where ever you are respectively located and I would love to attend your school. 😀
 
1) Obviously, adcom eavesdropping in these forums is not prohibited.
2) That doesn't make it any less like spying, eavesdropping, or like a judge clandestinely slipping into a therapy group designed for the people the judge will eventually be ruling on. The participants may reveal to one another things that they would have kept private from the judge. This is a kind of privacy violation, but in the case of these forums, probably not one that needs to be outlawed.
3) I'm not sure that any harm is done if
a) the judge didn't have to lie to get into the group
b) the judge's intent is not to procure information about individuals for purposes of court rulings (i.e., admissions decisions), but to procure general information about the experiences & responses of the judicants (i.e., applicants) to the judicial/application/interview process itself. This is actually with the intent to improve the process, and to serve the needs of the applicants better.

I have learned things about student job applicants before (through my observations & remembered experiences of interactions with students & with students organizations on campus) that would never be put on an application, or that would even be illegal for me to discuss in a job interview. In every case I either let someone else make the decision, or I worked to dissociate myself from the information I knew so that I could provide the applicant with a fair and unbiased assessment of their application & interview. This required me to "forget" things I had seen or heard, in the interests of what I thought were that student's right to privacy. Hopefully, any adcom people on this site will behave in a similar manner, even if they have evidence from this site that a particular applicant is a bit of an idiot.

Each of us on this site needs to remember that the people who come to know you online (and also in your ordinary, non-academic, life) may be someone who you have to work with or for professionally one day. I keep this in mind, and try to keep my responses clean, and my interactions with the idiots of this world as unabusive as I can manage. You never know if one of the people who see you flipping off the idiot driver will be both unimpressed by your display & in a position to complicate your life.

The kind of language and vulgar behaviors that might characterize your or my behavior at a bar while we hang out with our close friends is not really wise behavior in a place such as this, (even with our limited anonyminity) which is filled with both present and future colleagues, employees, and employers.

ON a related note:
In the orientation meeting for my interview day it was revealed by the dean that two of our interviewers had our AMCAS and the summary letters from our letter committees, while a third had all the details from our applications, including the secondary & COPIES OF ALL EMAILS & CORRESPONDENCE between us & the school, to date. This was unexpected, and I was immediately thankful that I had carefully composed my emails to the secretaries, assistants, etc. An extreme example, perhaps, but it did teach me a lesson
 
MrAndrew47 said:
I was talking to the associate director at the office admissions at Emory, and i asked her about SDN beacuse i think she mentioned it. She went on to say she reads it, was (jokingly) upset about some of the negative interview feedback, and continuted to stay how she reads the boards to look for her name and looks for posts about the school. Interesting, no?

Hmmm... I just want to add that I LOVE EMORY!!!!! 😀
 
yeah i'm probably being paranoid, damn the process and its side effects.
 
I'm sure many schools read the site. Some admit to it. None will ever post.

The second they do, they'll be hounded with:

ADMIT MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

or

WHY DIDN'T YOU ADMIT MEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

or your standard type A suckup spam.
 
I hope I haven't posted anything so bad that the adcoms would remember me... I'm not sure whether they could identify me anyways... But just in case- I'm from New Hampshire, I major in English at Pepperdine, and I'm a vegetarian (Do you think they'll believe that?)
 
badlydrawnvik said:
Yes they can read what they want, but is it right? Some schools have tests with an honor code and no professor present, the option to cheat is there but you don't do it. I do agree that it could be helpful to the admissions process, but at the same time as C.P. Jones said it does really take away from the private feeling.


Yes I think it is right because the point of SDN is not to be used as a complaining session so much as a place for advice and answers to impertinent questions. The other discussion is just icing on the cake.

But the answers to many questions can be more reliable when coming from admissions people on this site.

There are two that actually regularly post on here: LizzyM (don't know what school she's at) and REL (Who is from USF adcom)

Both have done wonders in terms of answering questions and helping students out.

Also, note that Interviewfeedback is promoted by many medical schools because it serves as a way for adcoms to know where they went wrong and did not go wrong in their interviews, so they know what to work on for next time. They are the ONE's that TELL PEOPLE to post there a lot of the time. It saves them time from having to create their own feedback form.

I prefer having them on here because it allows for a different perspective then the student perspective only.
 
OSUdoc08 said:
On the contrary: This a free public forum.


BRAVO!!!!!!!! What he said ^^^^^^^

:clap: :clap:

A private forum is one where you can only view it if you are registered for the forum. And at that, most private forums have rules saying you need special approval to join the site.
 
I HOPE they are reading!!!

Iowa: I L-o-v-e-d your school. Please take me!
Chicago schools (save NW): just because I spend most of my prayers keeping the Bears #1 in their division, doesn't mean I am not praying for an interview from one of you!
Vermont: Love syrup, love ice cream, would love an interview!
GW and G'town: I know you know I want you!
Maryland: Love crab cakes, love medicine, we would be a perfect fit!
Oregon: I spend one week every semester teaching Intro Anth students about the potlach; would love to be out there and see one for myself!
CU: Now you guys just aren't fair. I literaly live 8 blocks away, you could walk over an invite at lunch. I'll wait on my porch.

Okay adcoms. It should be easy to figure me out because gdbaby is the start of my email. I am probably towards the bottom of your piles (mediocre stats), but I will spring for any band aids you need from any papercuts you get trying to find my app!
 
I know here at MCW they check out the interview feedback. If something is said that can be improved or better explained, those of us that give tours or do interviews are contacted to try to meet applicants' needs better.

As for them reading the forums. No comment beyond you want to stay off the MCW "SDN Applicant Blacklist."










I'm kidding on that last part, of course.
 
Toxic said:
Hmmm....I wonder if they are reading right now. Hello adcoms? It's me, Toxic. I love you! Pick me pick me!!

oops was that out loud?? :laugh:


Indeed it was Toxic -- but we cant pick you if we dont know who you are!! Danged if you do, and danged if you dont.......
 
REL said:
Indeed it was Toxic -- but we cant pick you if we dont know who you are!! Danged if you do, and danged if you dont.......

Time for the two "P"s... paranoia and panic!! :laugh:
 
why doesnt the next person that interviews somewhere just ask? if you dont i will. i'll let you know january 9th.
-mota
 
why are a lot of posts making it seem as if the OP intends to restrict adcom viewers? He never said they shouldn't be allowed to do so, simply that on some levels it seems wrong.

as i've said, i do think it does take away in the sense that one may not tell their true feelings on a topic, a school, etc., and that on the other hand, the adcoms give a lot of great info

none of this states that anything should be restricted or isn't free

i'm sure you don't like the FBI reading your emails, now do you 😀
 
C.P. Jones said:
why are a lot of posts making it seem as if the OP intends to restrict adcom viewers? He never said they shouldn't be allowed to do so, simply that on some levels it seems wrong.

as i've said, i do think it does take away in the sense that one may not tell their true feelings on a topic, a school, etc., and that on the other hand, the adcoms give a lot of great info

none of this states that anything should be restricted or isn't free

i'm sure you don't like the FBI reading your emails, now do you 😀

alright, someone gets me. although you guys are probably right, there are likely more positive things to come out of admissions people reading these forums. unfortunately although that person said she reads SDN, she just recongnized the problem and said "but that's the way we do it."
 
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