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Advice: Accused of Cheating

Discussion in 'Medical Students - DO' started by DGCT00, Sep 24, 2014.

  1. DGCT00

    DGCT00 2+ Year Member

    Jul 2, 2013
    Last edited: Dec 28, 2014
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  3. costales

    costales 2+ Year Member

    Jul 25, 2011
    They're giving you an opportunity to present your case - basically to plead stupidity and beg for mercy. Consequences can be severe, but you don't know yet.
    Last edited: Sep 24, 2014
  4. ToldYouSo

    ToldYouSo Student 7+ Year Member

    Oct 11, 2008
    New York
    hSDN Alumni
    Definitely don't leave yet before your hearing. If your school is like mine, after around the 4th week or so of classes you aren't eligible to get any tuition money refunded back so you have nothing to lose by waiting. Agreed with what costales said
  5. DGCT00

    DGCT00 2+ Year Member

    Jul 2, 2013
    Last edited: Dec 28, 2014
  6. Mad Jack

    Mad Jack Critically Caring Gold Donor Classifieds Approved 2+ Year Member

    Jul 27, 2013
    4th Dimension
    Dude, you straight up gave him an answer. I mean, you should have though that through. If it wasn't necessary for your exam and you brought it up before your partner finished, you straight up aided in cheating. Yeah it was a lax environment, yeah you were trying to be nice, etc, but there's not many other ways to paint this.
  7. DGCT00

    DGCT00 2+ Year Member

    Jul 2, 2013
    Last edited: Dec 28, 2014
  8. Mad Jack

    Mad Jack Critically Caring Gold Donor Classifieds Approved 2+ Year Member

    Jul 27, 2013
    4th Dimension
    Do your best to present your case as innocently as possible, pray they buy it. If not, you'll probably have the mark of "academic discipline" on your record and it will affect your match results.
  9. GUH

    GUH Underdawg 7+ Year Member

    Jul 13, 2010
    Eastern US
    If I were you I would not drop out.
    I would apologize, explain that I was nervous and did not intend to cheat, ask for another chance, and nod politely when scolded.
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  10. ChrisGriffen

    ChrisGriffen Banned Banned 2+ Year Member

    Aug 29, 2013
    Agree with GUH but I have one very very important piece of advice for you.

    When they ask you to tell your side if the story, you tell the truth EXACTLY as it happened. Yes, you must appear to be sorry and well-intended, but do NOT change facts to do so. If you appear to be lying or shady about it even a little bit, your ass is fried.

    Just lay the facts down on the table.

    Its much better to admit that you know you were wrong and be sorry about it than to try and spin the story.
  11. operaman

    operaman Physician 7+ Year Member

    Jun 7, 2010
    Ok, I'm a smart guy but I can't picture what actually happened based on your description. Maybe it's because my school didn't have exams like that, but could you clarify what happened in more detail and without any embellishment?

    Generally, the rules for dealing with this sort of thing are:

    1) Thou shalt not make any excuses. ANY. Not a peep about lax environment or proctor giving you answers. Nada. Zip.
    2) (based on my interpretation of your story above) Frame it as you did not intend to give answers to your partner; it slipped accidentally.
    3) Take full responsibility for your actions, admit to having exercised poor judgement, etc.
    4) Beg for mercy on the grounds that your actions were the result of poor judgement, not dishonesty

    If it truly was a slip of the tongue and not in any way intentional cheating (this means anyone watching a video of the incident would conclude as much), then my guess is you'll get a slap on the wrist. If it was honestly accidental, no school wants to slap you with an academic violation for that.
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  12. dermpathdoc

    dermpathdoc DO Path 10+ Year Member

    Aug 24, 2005
    Pacific Northwest
    Also, hope the school doesn't come on this thread. You can be accused of being coached in how to respond to this incident and it will be viewed as an admission of guilt.
  13. valkener

    valkener 5+ Year Member

    May 17, 2010
    Let us know how it goes. Try to be proactive about this. For example, bring in a written essay explaining why what you did is wrong. You could also meet your professor and staright-up ask him/her for a solution -- aka, deduct the point and do an extra assignment, I don't know.

    These people don't want to hear why what you did was OK or not so bad. They want to teach you a lesson (could be a minor slap on the wrist).

    As to your letter, nobody knows if it will end up in there. I am inclined to think that it will not because schools usually want their students to match well -- not necessarily for their students' sake but because it makes them look good. There are many factors that will contribute to your match and the letter is often not even read. It all depends, but it's certainly, absolutely, not time for you to call it quits.
  14. Mehd School

    Mehd School 5+ Year Member

    May 2, 2012
    West Coast
    This. Delete, delete, delete. Your post is identifying and unique.
  15. Goro

    Goro Faculty 7+ Year Member

    Jun 10, 2010
    Somewhere west of St. Louis
    OP, all I can say is OWN THIS.

    Lax environment, indeed. That's just asking for a suspension or a dismissal.
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  16. j4pac

    j4pac PM&R resident 10+ Year Member

    Aug 22, 2005 did cheat. Get that through your head. Whether or not you intended to do it is a different story and that is what I would focus on. But acting like it is no big deal is going to lead to you finding another means of employment.
  17. Sileni

    Sileni 5+ Year Member

    May 18, 2012
    Honesty is always the best policy. If you lie, at all, or even leave out facts they're more likely to take action against you. To me, this looks like you got excited and weren't thinking - but to a proctor I could see how this is suspicious. I wish you the best.

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