Diane L. Evans

SDN Moderator
Moderator Emeritus
10+ Year Member
Nov 16, 1998
682
4
241
Mississippi
passingyourobgynboards.com
Status
Attending Physician
How to pass the oral or written ABOG or AOBOG exam
I get asked this question a lot!!! So I though I would post below
For more information please see my blog
www.passingyourobgynboards.com
Blog#1 5-tips for passing your obgyn boards
Blog#2 What to do if I don't pass my written or oral obgyn boards (up Jan 14 2015)

ACOG in 2009 published a report of several agencies offering oral and written boards. I will include this below see*

For written exams:

If you need to know what to study the ABC course offers a diagnostic test for $50 that will target your weak areas (good for written and oral takers) http://blanceducationservices.com/index.html ABC now has separate 425 question!! tests that mimic written boards.

In my opinion the best prep is one with LOTS of practice of written exam questions such as ABC/ Dr. Wall's. Both have a great pass rate and everyone just raves about both styles!!! The ABC site Dr. Das includes a board review course is A BONUS as you get written questions plus a board review course that is also good toward preparing for oral exams
http://www.americasboardreview.com/collections/abog-written-exam/products/abog-written-exam-combo-package

Walls site can be found at http://www.obgynboardprep.com/mock.html

I think Osler and Exam Pro offers a great course with wonderful instructors and their audio tapes are fantastic! On 6/10/10 I stand corrected!!! The new Exam Pro course has addition of exam style format questions
and is FREE for all candidates at:http://www.exampro.com/boards/MembWrittens_Only.asp?clasification=written

Best study tools PROLOG and Precis don't bother with textbooks at this time.

Oral exams

Its hard to decide which course to take definitely have someone look at your case list Dr ABC, Exam Pro, Osler and Wall, ALL offer these services. Take a focused oral exam course and have your case-list reviewed expensive but worth it!

In addition AOBOG candidates there is a new webinar geared especially for the 10 core topics
This is a must do for all those that fail the oral exam ABOG or AOBOG. The ten core topic course is a live interactive board like review with participation from registered members to answer case of the day questions!!!!

ABC
http://www.americasboardreview.com/collections/abog-oral-exam/products/abog-oral-exam-webinar
http://www.americasboardreview.com/collections/abog-oral-exam/products/abog-oral-exam-premium-package

http://americasboardreview.com/oral_exams/mock_orals_abog_oral.shtml

Replies from past participants note the ABC course to be very accessible , " with you every step of the way". The course director is readily available by cell phone. ABC's motto is The oral exam especially requires mentors who "practice what they preach". Their courses provide a REVIEW AND EXAM STRATEGY. The lectures are evidence based, exam focused, and in accordance with the latest ACOG standards. What is nice is each registrant receives a Test Topics Manual that accompanies their 900+ page binder. This contains each lecture, a list of the pertinent ACOG Compendium references, and the exam focus.

Specifically for Oral exam from ABC
Case list review At the course, in person
Comprehensive – digital recordings of every single case, followed by a phone consult (the only company in the nation that does this)
by the reviewer to discuss highlights of their concerns and the opportunity for you to ask questions

Purchase items:
[1] Pass Your Oral OB/GYN Board Exam –the first and still #1 selling guide for the ABOG oral boards
[2] Oral Exam Recollections – remembrances from questions on the structured cases and case list
[3] Structured Cases CDs – CDs that simulate the ABOG exam with structured cases from past exams, subject-based, and answers
[4] Case of the Day Workshop CD
[5] Test Topics Manual
[6] Course DVDs

Specifically for MOCK-ORAL EXAMS

Mock orals –all examiners are practitioners, all exams are private and one-on-one
At the course, in person
Telephonically, on Skype

Do or Die in Dallas – the weekend of and week of the exam, only our most seasoned examiners, right there in Dallas, for one-on-one last minute cramming or polishing.

Case of the Day mock orals


Exam Pro http://www.exampro.com/boards/obgyn-oral-boards.asp
They sell a case-list construction software!
Has been offering OB/GYN Oral board prep for almost 2 decades!!!. They make sure your knowledge and presentation must be pristine. ExamPro's OB/GYN course for the oral boards has captured the perfect balance between technique and content.

They will teach you how to compile your case list, review your case list, and how to predict questions based on the cases you have. (Case list Review Course 2010). The also offer services for case-list review ( a must)

The OB/GYN Board Prep Course covers most commonly asked questions, defense of high yield scenarios, structured cases, and mock orals and is the most attended course in the country (offered 6 times on both coasts).

In addition to our OB/GYN courses, you can purchase separate private mock oral examinations (conducted in person or over the phone). ExamPro also offers extensive Case list Reviews which are critical for successful results.

In addition they have quite a nice array at at home study materials for oral boards
[1] Board Review Course Recordings A computer-generated version of the Power Point presentation coupled with a separate (picture in picture) recording of the lecturer speaking makes you feel like you are listening live to the lecture at the course.

[2] Didactic Lectures Recordings
These recordings are a focused and concentrated presentation of extremely high yield questions in the oral general board exam. The only reasonable option if you cannot attend the actual course.

[3] Case List Construction DVD
This video provides the principles that allow you to produce the best possible case list prior to submission

[5] Mock Oral Vignettes DVD
shows a candidate how to manage specific high yield OB/GYN questions in the general oral OB/GYN test.


Specifically for MOCK-ORAL EXAMS

Mock orals
Visitor Mock Oral per 2 hour session
Private Mock Oral per 1 hour session
Public Mock Oral per 2 hour session
Telephone Mock Oral per 1 hour session
Schamroth Mock Oral (per hour)


Below is a compile of information for your help
good luck Diane

WEB sites oral boards
http://blanceducationservices.com/index.html diagnostic exam
http://www.americasboardreview.com/services_mockorals.shtml written and orals
http://www.exampro.com/comersus/store/comersus_home.asp orals
http://www.perinatalresources.org/fl registration.htm oral review excellent
http://www.obgynboardprep.com/mock.html Dr. Walls written and orals


FREE case list help!!!
For those collecting now good job!!! Please use the exam pro software as it is easy to use and does free editing. Both Dr. Wall and Exam Pro
(Dr Schamroth) offer free on line help!! Exam Pro has a weekly blog that helps take you through oral exam case list and test questions

For Dr. Wall email [email protected] and let her know you are interested in a free webinar session let her know student doctor referred you!

For EXAMPRO
New Free Service: ExamPro will provide (beginning late March), a free service to assist you with your case list construction. This will be available to all oral exam candidates over the internet on our web site, between the hours of 7 PM and midnight every Sunday evening (EST). It will last no longer than 15 minutes and will be updated weekly. Dr Schamroth will discuss with an anonymous candidate (anyone is free to volunteer) any issue of concern regarding their case list. This discussion will then be followed by a brief powerpoint presentation covering the salient issues that were covered in the discussion. Everyone is strongly encouraged to partake (Free is good!)



Attached is review from ACOG *
Board Review Courses
OBGYN Oral Board Review Courses



Name of Review Course: ColumbusComprehensive Review

Website: http://www.perinatalresources.org/

Cost: Registration $2200 – 10% discount for active duty, Hotel $134/night

Length: 9.5 days

Where was it? Hyatt on Capital Square, Columbus, OH

Food: Snacks included but no meals. Lots of fast food in next door mall.

What faculty gave it? Primarily The Ohio State Univ faculty

Did it offer Mock Orals? No

How would you rate it? (Poor, fair, good, excellent) Excellent

Would you recommend it? Yes

Strengths

Very comprehensive. Covers all material needed to pass boards.

Excellent faculty

Topics were relevant and up to date

Weaknesses

Long

Some topics "3rd world medicine" not needed to pass boards

Expensive

Maybe too comprehensive

No mock orals

Quotes from attendees

"Intense, through, outstanding faculty, exhausting, excellent experience, will come back in 5 years for update."



Name of Review Course: Florida version of Columbus Comprehensive Review

Website: http://www.perinatalresources.org/

Cost: Registration $1735 – 10% for active duty, Hotel $131/night

Length: 7 days

Where was it? Coranado Springs Resort, Walt Disney World

Food: Snacks included but no meals..

What faculty gave it? Primarily The Ohio State Univ faculty similar to Columbus Review

Did it offer Mock Orals? No

How would you rate it? (Poor, fair, good, excellent) Excellent

Would you recommend it? Yes

Strengths

Very comprehensive. Covers all material needed to pass boards.

Excellent faculty

Topics were relevant and up to date

Weaknesses

Long

Expensive

Maybe too comprehensive

No mock orals

No option for faculty to review case lists

Quotes from attendees

Perfect

Any longer would be too long

Great faculty



Name of Review Course: Exampro

Website: http://www.exampro.com

Length: 3-5 days depending on courses/options

Where was it? Various locactions around the U.S. Miami, NY, LA, St Louis, Baltimore

Food: Breakfast, snacks, and lunch included on all days of 3-5 day review course

What faculty gave it? Various national faculty

Did it offer Mock Orals? Yes (telephone, group, and individual)

How would you rate it? (Poor, fair, good, excellent) Excellent

Would you recommend it? Yes (highly)

Strengths

Great Software for Case Collection

High Yield

No fluff, only critical topics

Money back guarantee

Excellent faculty

Topics were relevant and up to date

Many different packages depending on what you need from help including caselist construction, mock oral exams and review of topics.

Telephone mock orals

Weaknesses

May not have enough details for some

Quotes from attendees

"Quick paced, good length and only covered what was really important. Helped me pass"

Great for those located in isolated practice areas needing a comprehensive program.



Name of Review Course: Osler

Website: http://www.osler.org

Cost: Registration $1320, or $880 for resident – Hotel varies on location. Usually given at/in a holiday inn. CD/MP3 audio version of review available for $475

Length: 6 days

Where was it? Offers courses in Chicago, Dallas, LA, and Philadelphia

Food: Snacks along with breakfast and lunch included but no dinner.

What faculty gave it? Variety of national faculty including some military

Did it offer Mock Orals? Yes

How would you rate it? (Poor, fair, good, excellent) Excellent by all (about 8) but one person felt the course to be insufficient

Would you recommend it? Yes by most

Strengths

Very comprehensive.

Excellent faculty

Topics were relevant and up to date

Offers CD's with recorded lectures for those unable to attend

Weaknesses

One person felt depth of topics too basic

Quotes from attendees

"Great course, liked the ability to take course at different locations and also liked mock orals"



Name of Review Course: University of California Irvine Review of Clinical Obstetrics and Gynecology

Website: http://www.healthaffairs.uci.edu/obgyn/CME.html

Cost: wasn't listed

Length: 5 days

Where was it? Westin South Coast Plaza Hotel, Costa Mesa CA

Food: not included.

What faculty gave it? Primarily The Univ of Cal Irvine faculty

Did it offer Mock Orals? "Case Reviews and Test Taking Skills"

How would you rate it? (Poor, fair, good, excellent) Excellent

Would you recommend it? Yes

Strengths

Covered most of the important topics

Excellent faculty

Topics were relevant and up to date

Weaknesses

Expensive hotel

No mock orals

Quotes from attendees

"Great course. Right length and great faculty. Will keep syllabus as a reference. Perfect course for me."



Name of Review Course: Dr. Wall's OB/GYN Board Prep

Website: www.obgynboardprep.com

Cost: $1495

Length: varies upon course taken

Where was it? Dallas at Sheraton Chicago at Marriott

Food: None listed.

What faculty gave it? Mainly Dr Wall, but Dr Kerns and Heard also listed

Did it offer Mock Orals? No {actually Dr. Wall does offer Mock orals in Dallas Oct Nov and Dec}

How would you rate it? (Poor, fair, good, excellent) No one rated this

Would you recommend it? N/A no comments

Strengths

Weaknesses

Quotes from attendees



Name of Review Course: America's OB/GYN Board Review Course

Website: www.americasboardreview.com

Cost: $1440 with military or resident discount

Length: 5 days (Wed-Sun)

Where was it? Charlotte Suites Marriott (approx 190/nt)

Food: Breakfasts and lunches included.

What faculty gave it? Long list of various faculty, Dr. Das, Dr. Peeper

Did it offer Mock Orals? Yes

How would you rate it? (Poor, fair, good, excellent): Excellent

Would you recommend it? Yes (highly x 2)

Strengths

Many different packages depending on what you need from help including caselist construction, mock oral exams and review of topics.

Up to 5 mock orals taken at single conference (group and one-on-one)

Recorded lectures available if missed during mock oral prep

Caselist review (group of peers and one-on-one)

Separate caselist prep course

Individual help for one person that did not pass the first time after taking their course

Telephone mock orals

Dynamic lecturers

Weaknesses

Long days (some 7AM to 9PM) - noted by both reviewers

40% studying for written boards, 60% for orals

Quotes from attendees

"They are with you every step of the way. They advertise this and I think it is true."

"Very happy with the material presented. It was organized and quick paced but very relevant."
"COL Das is the course director and the course's greatest asset."



Name of Review Course: Emory University Comprehensive Update in Gynecology & Obstetrics

Website: http://www.med.emory.edu/CME/course/specialty.htm#G then click gynecology

Cost: $900 physician $700 resident (no military discount mentioned but couldn't hurt to ask)

Length:8 days

Where was it? Amelia Island, Florida Amelia Island Inn and Beach Club rooms starting at $151

Food:None listed

What faculty gave it?Some Emory and variety of professors from around the US

Did it offer Mock Orals? No

How would you rate it?No one rated this course

Would you recommend it?

Strengths

Weaknesses

Quotes from attendees



Name of Review Course: LSU 12th annual New Orleans OB/GYN board review

Website: http://www.medschool.lsuhsc.edu/ob_gyn/board_review_brochure.pdf

Cost: Residents start at $750 physicians in practice start at $900

Length: 5 days

Where was it: New Orleansat Royal Sonesta Hotel starting at $189/night

Food: Breakfast and snacks included

What faculty gave it?: LSU faculty

Did it offer Mock Orals? No but lectures on test taking strategies

How would you rate it? No one has rated this course

Would you recommend it?

Strengths

Weaknesses

Quotes from attendees
 
Last edited:

Diane L. Evans

SDN Moderator
Moderator Emeritus
10+ Year Member
Nov 16, 1998
682
4
241
Mississippi
passingyourobgynboards.com
Status
Attending Physician
Exampro pro is now offering a money back guarantee for first time test takers
if you take their case list construction course ( these courses end in June)..
The course is well taught and definitely worth the money. Must be a USA
residency graduate and first time test taker. ABC also offers a money back guarantee as well.
 
Last edited:

Diane L. Evans

SDN Moderator
Moderator Emeritus
10+ Year Member
Nov 16, 1998
682
4
241
Mississippi
passingyourobgynboards.com
Status
Attending Physician
I also received notice that the ABC course is offering a new course
called " Are you smarter than a board examiner", based after the
game are you smarter than a 5th grader. The course is offered in
Baltimore April 2009. It actually lets you observe and participate in a mock oral.
In addition Dr. Das published the second updated edition of her guide to the
oral and written boards in 2009 titled Pass your Oral OB/GYN Board Exam! ISBN 978-0-9822921-2-9.
Web site www.americasboardreview.com
Phone 1-877-ABC-OBGYN
 

Diane L. Evans

SDN Moderator
Moderator Emeritus
10+ Year Member
Nov 16, 1998
682
4
241
Mississippi
passingyourobgynboards.com
Status
Attending Physician
I have completed interviewing the programs offering written and oral board courses for OB/GYN candidates. I will post my article soon..........

Good luck to those buckling down for the written exam.
 
Dec 5, 2009
9
0
0
Status
Thank you for these resources....
I have a question ...I have some question papers by Dr Walls...
What is a good score ? What % age ?
Does it vary with the test ..(I took BMW test)

Thanks ....I hope I am not infringing the rules by discussing this here!
 

Global Disrobal

Along for the ride
Moderator
Moderator Emeritus
10+ Year Member
15+ Year Member
Sep 24, 2002
1,002
13
351
Texas
Status
Attending Physician
Great resource Diane. Here is what I did:

Written: Precis/Prologs (read them twice)

Oral: Precis and Perinatal Resources (the Orlando course)

Good luck everyone.
 

Diane L. Evans

SDN Moderator
Moderator Emeritus
10+ Year Member
Nov 16, 1998
682
4
241
Mississippi
passingyourobgynboards.com
Status
Attending Physician
I think Global will mirror me on the answer to your question
"what is a good score for written or orals?"

PASS

Basically only CREOGs (residency OB/GYN yearly test) give scores
 

Diane L. Evans

SDN Moderator
Moderator Emeritus
10+ Year Member
Nov 16, 1998
682
4
241
Mississippi
passingyourobgynboards.com
Status
Attending Physician
How to pass ABOG oral exam? Get your case list reviewed professionally or attend a case list review course. A course can save you about $250-400 over a personal review. It is well worth the time and money. Remember your case list is a first impression. Many who have failed said they did so because they were unable to defend their case list--they were blind-sighted by questions a review could of pointed out. Many great courses exist. Feel free to PM me with questions.

New article of interest http://www.apgo.org/2013/PP82.pdf
 
Last edited:
Jul 2, 2013
29
1
41
Status
Resident [Any Field]
Please i am looking to buy your old prolong/ precis books from you...with any condition. Send to me private sms. Or write to my email: [email protected].

Good luck