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I sorta do, this school has rejected me twice. Oh well, I have four DO interviews in January.
I've applied 3 times in Texas and they don't send official rejections until after the match in February. Then they just sorta roll in. Thanks guys, I know I didn't match. It's kinda like, "And the hits just keep on coming..." I've definitely wanted to send something snarky, trust me.
lol I did that twice last year on an impulse. I had to reapply, but one of the schools I did it to invited me for an interview this year
I sorta do, this school has rejected me twice. Oh well, I have four DO interviews in January.
Oh I just got another MD interview for Jan!
Guys, just don't take it personally. You all know it's ill-advised (I hope). Would you get this mad if you got rejected by an Ivy League college? (I hope not).
It's just ruff and extremely competitive. That's all.
How can you not take it personally when they put your app under a microscope and analyze every little flaw. No wonder people who get through this process have a god complex.
For schools that get thousands and thousands of applications and only have the time and resources to interview several hundred and after that only have the capacity to accept a couple hundred, you shouldn't take it personally at all. My school interviews about 700 people, all of whom are extremely qualified, and except for a handful of outliers, most would make excellent students at the school. The unfortunate reality is that we only accept ~300 to end up at a class size of ~150, so yeah, 500 people are going to be disappointed. I was in your position not too long ago, so I do know very well how frustrating it is, but something I didn't realize when applying was the sheer number of extremely qualified people applying to medical school and unfortunately, they can't all make it into every school they want to attend.
I get what you are saying. So maybe it makes sense to expand American med schools instead of denying kids that are highly qualified then importing a bunch of IMGs to fill residency slots.
This just further exemplifies your misunderstanding of the situation and healthcare in general. Residency slots are capped and frozen, and there are so many American medical schools opening up that the number of just American med school graduates is soon going to exceed the number of residency slots. So no, it doesn't make sense to make more med schools unless legislation is passed to increase residencies.
I said It would make more sense to accept more American med students instead of IMGs to fill slots. Currently IMGs take a lot of slots in the match. More American med graduates means Americans will take those slots and IMGs would be pushed out. In that case they would need to increase the number of residencies but not by much.
I know what you said. IMGs are already being pushed out. I said that soon the number of US medical graduates will exceed the number of slots. That means that not only IMGs will be completely pushed out, so will qualified US medical graduates. It's already happening in the competitive specialties with people unable to match despite being very qualified. It's not worth it to increase the number of med schools so that a few more pre-meds can be happy when in 4 years they won't be able to match.
How can you not take it personally when they put your app under a microscope and analyze every little flaw. No wonder people who get through this process have a god complex.
Whit the Number of MD and DO slots there are slots left over every year after the match. If a students cant match in a competitive specialty, they are aiming too high. And we are nowhere near there being more American MD/DO graduates than residencies. People say this but usually provide no evidence or poor evidence. Plus on the osteopathic side, they are creating new residencies.
IMGs almost always take up spots that american grads don't want. Trust me.I said It would make more sense to accept more American med students instead of IMGs to fill slots. Currently IMGs take a lot of slots in the match. More American med graduates means Americans will take those slots and IMGs would be pushed out. In that case they would need to increase the number of residencies but not by much.
LOL@premed talking about why or why not people matchWhit the Number of MD and DO slots there are slots left over every year after the match. If a students cant match in a competitive specialty, they are aiming too high. And we are nowhere near there being more American MD/DO graduates than residencies. People say this but usually provide no evidence or poor evidence. Plus on the osteopathic side, they are creating new residencies.
I get what you are saying. So maybe it makes sense to expand American med schools instead of denying kids that are highly qualified then importing a bunch of IMGs to fill residency slots.
IMGs almost always take up spots that american grads don't want. Trust me.
LOL@premed talking about why or why not people match
Just a thought...would people who would kill to get into med school also not want those spots? Mathematically speaking, if IMGs are taking up spots (desired or not), then there is still room for AMG. I honestly don't care for either side of the argument, just something I thought of reading you guys' posts.
I'm pretty sure some crazy high school students know more than me about getting into med school
People who will kill to get into med school and choose the IMG route should be THANKFUL to find spots. They won't complain, but take spots and move forward.
Naw I mean american citizens who would kill to go US MD would probably want those "crappy" spots taken up by IMGs no? I was just saying that increasing US MD spots to take up those spots, however crappy, is viable (just mathematically speaking)
Sure, that sounds like a good enough reason. Like I said, I'm not really siding with either argument, that was just a thought I had. These undesirable residencies probably wouldn't stop anyone from wanting an MD after their nameThe ratio of US MDs vs spots can't be too close to 1:1... we're playing a 29k seat music chair basically. If we only have barely enough seats for everyone, then if you're unlucky and your section is a bit overcrowded, you'd be out without a match. Real life matching isn't 100% efficient cuz of limitation with time and money.
You bet I do, I just love it when they tell me that they wish me all the luck in my pursuit of medicine, but I better take it somewhere else. The closes I've come to sending an F-note is that after UPitt sent me a rejection, I went to their web site and withdrew my application. That will sure teach them!
Now is the time to show some brass balls and send them the F-email before you even show up for interview.
Second to last tab on their web site - right next to logging out. Maybe they've smartened after I rejected them.haha I like that. She didn't dump me, I dumped her!
Just checked, couldn't find that option Oh well, no one wants to live in the midwest anyways.
What happened to your cat and hot dogs avatar? It was my favorite oneYes, especially from my own alma mater
Whatevs I say ****em
Why would anyone advocate increasing the number of medical schools without an equal or greater increase in residency spots? Best case scenario you're shooting yourself in the foot and making it that much harder to match into the residency you really want in that perfect location. Worst case scenario you may have to apply twice in the match.
The reason residency spots are so low is because the government doesn't want to increase it's spending for GME and (at least for certain competitive fields) the residency spots are artificially limited to secure the salary of their field. The main appeal of US MD is that nice ~95% match rate. If you just increase the number of med school then you mess up the whole appeal. You need both.
2nd bold: Protecting the salary of fields I can understand for family medicine, peds, etc. But to say that ortho, derm, rads, etc should keep out perfectly good candidates is not a good argument. Would people really be hurting if they took a pay cut from 300K to 275K each to accomodate 500 new grads a year? I'm no Mother Theresa and I understand long schooling + hard work should be rewarded but then is making 300K really a justifiable amount of money?
Sorry I meant to be more clear on that. Take away a little of those fields' pay, pay the shortage fields with that surplus.Is there a shortage of ortho/derm/rads physicians? If not, why would training more be a good idea? Residencies are not free, they are paid with tax dollars. Just because there are qualified candidates does not mean that public money should be spent on training a surplus of physicians.
Sorry I meant to be more clear on that. Take away a little of those field's pay, pay the shortage fields with that surplus.