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AJ or OJ?

Discussion in 'Pre-Medical - MD' started by The Sultan, May 1, 2002.

  1. The Sultan

    The Sultan Member 7+ Year Member

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    Harvard/ Yale: who cares. AMCAS: kiss my ass. Time to ponder something really important: apple juice or orange juice?
    Please people, given the extreme importance of this question, I beg you to make your remarks wisely.

    Peace
     
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  3. BushBaby

    BushBaby Nipplelina 10+ Year Member

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    Definitely OJ.

    I can only drink very cold apple juice, otherwise I get nausous. I don't know why..... it's just the way it is. :confused:
     
  4. BushBaby

    BushBaby Nipplelina 10+ Year Member

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    Headz up-

    This thread will probably be moving to the lounge soon. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />
     
  5. johnM

    johnM Senior Member 7+ Year Member

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    OJ kicks AJ a$$! <img src="http://www.theunholytrinity.org/cracks_smileys/contrib/sarge/Axe_anim.gif" alt="" />
     
  6. mr.annoying

    mr.annoying Senior Member 7+ Year Member

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    I'd have to say apple juice because it reminds me of urine when warm... YUM! :D
     
  7. UofMNguy

    UofMNguy Member 7+ Year Member

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    Definetly OJ, cuz they say an apple a day keeps the doctor away... I don't know if that holds true for apple juice.. but we all want jobs... :D Okay stupid but I had too... <img border="0" alt="[Laughy]" title="" src="graemlins/laughy.gif" />
     
  8. anna02

    anna02 Member 7+ Year Member

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    Yeah Mellow, I know what you mean... apple juice makes me sick on my stomach sometimes too.

    I'm partial to orange pineapple juice.
     
  9. Dr. Geoff

    Dr. Geoff Mzungu 10+ Year Member

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    OJ, it keeps me healthy so I go to all my classes...

    Jeff
     
  10. sternrower

    sternrower Junior Member 7+ Year Member

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    Grapefruit juice
     
  11. Doctora Foxy

    Doctora Foxy Meow 7+ Year Member

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    Here's the vote from my 8-year old brother: Apple Juice <img border="0" alt="[Clappy]" title="" src="graemlins/clappy.gif" /> :D

    But he prefers Juicy juice--it's good stuff!
     
  12. Mystique

    Mystique The Procrastinator 7+ Year Member

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    Definitely OJ over AJ...and while we're on the topic, drink the frozen concentrate kind rather than the carton kind. I recently read somewhere that the frozen kind retains more nutrients and is more potent.
     
  13. BushBaby

    BushBaby Nipplelina 10+ Year Member

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    Actually I prefer Cranberry Juice over OJ.
     
  14. PTjay

    PTjay Senior Member 7+ Year Member

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    I have heard that apple juice causes (or at least has been linked to) prostate cancer. Therefore, orange juice only for me.

    I'd still like to see the research though.
     
  15. UCMonkey

    UCMonkey Senior Member 7+ Year Member

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    Give me OJ any day. But its gotta be pulp-free.
     
  16. Hero

    Hero Senior Member 7+ Year Member

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    Apple juice. I get vit C from my Vit C pills. Apple a day makes the ... so that's why I haven't gotten accepted yet!!! :mad:
     
  17. souljah1

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    I'm an OJ type of guy. I like the Tropicana Pure and Premium fortified with Calcium (and I like the pulp). I don't think that concentrate being better than fresh squeezed is better nutritionally (and concentrate tastes like hell compared to fresh squeezd).
     
  18. analu

    analu Senior Member 7+ Year Member

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    Jamba Juice...Razzmatazz with protein boost. No better way to get your 5 a day.
     
  19. MandM06

    MandM06 Mr. 25/8 10+ Year Member

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    OJ gets me all emotional :mad: (Like FAT BASTARD)..So I'll go with AJ!!
     
  20. trouta

    trouta Senior Member 7+ Year Member

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    OJ... nice and pulpy. :p
     
  21. Mystique

    Mystique The Procrastinator 7+ Year Member

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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by souljah1:
    <strong>I'm an OJ type of guy. I like the Tropicana Pure and Premium fortified with Calcium (and I like the pulp). I don't think that concentrate being better than fresh squeezed is better nutritionally (and concentrate tastes like hell compared to fresh squeezd).</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">souljah1,
    I tried to link the article I read awhile back, but for some reason, it's not working. So, here's the article in its entirety. Sorry folks.

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    Frozen concentrate orange juice has more vitamin C

    By Alan Mozes

    NEW YORK, Apr 19 (Reuters Health) - Orange juice made from frozen concentrate can have higher levels of active vitamin C than ready-to-drink orange juice, researchers report. And once reconstituted, the vitamin in frozen juices may keep its potency longer.

    "Frozen concentrates have more vitamin C in them, quite a bit more, than ready-to-drink juices--since vitamin C is very easily destroyed and ready-to-drink orange juice goes through more processing than concentrates," said study lead author Dr. Carol S. Johnston of Arizona State University East in Mesa.

    Johnston and her co-author D. L. Bowling examined samples taken from different brands of orange juice sold in both frozen concentrate form and in ready-to-drink resealable cartons. Among the ready-to-drink samples, the researchers included both not-from-concentrate, pasteurized versions and from-concentrate, non-pasteurized versions.

    The content of the type of vitamin C that can be readily absorbed by the body dropped in all of the juices over time, with levels falling an average of 2% per day, Johnston and Bowling report in the April issue of the Journal of the American Dietetic Association.

    However, the investigators note that the ready-to-drink versions lost much more usable vitamin C during that period than did the frozen concentrates. When first prepared, the frozen concentrates contained 86 milligrams of vitamin C per fluid cup, which dropped to 39 to 46 milligrams after 4 weeks. The ready-to-drink juices contained anywhere from 27 to 65 milligrams per cup when unsealed and this dropped to 0 to 25 milligrams per cup at the expiration date 4 weeks later.

    Overall, the various ready-to-drink samples contained between 75% to 105% of the readily absorbable vitamin C noted on their labels--a figure which dropped to between 25% and 39% by the end of the month. On the other hand, the frozen concentrates had 80% of their vitamin C label claims on opening, dropping to 50% after 4 weeks.

    Johnston and Bowling conclude that ready-to-drink OJ loses a lot of its usable vitamin C in the period of time that commonly elapses between a consumer's initial purchase and the time of consumption. They point out that the pasteurization procedure--which many ready-to-drink orange juices undergo to destroy bacteria--gives this version a poorer running start due to the immediate heat destruction of vitamin C.

    The degradation of vitamin C in this processing is further aggravated, they note, by the type of plastic and wax containers in which ready-to-drink juices are packaged--leaving the juice's vitamin C content much more vulnerable to damaging air exposure over time than the vitamin C in frozen concentrates.

    The researchers suggest that to maximize vitamin C consumption, consumers are best off drinking frozen concentrate OJ within the first week after mixing it with water. They note that if consumers prefer the ease of ready-to-drink OJ they should make sure to buy those juices 3 to 4 weeks before the expiration date, and drink it within the first week after opening the container.

    "I hate to discourage people from getting orange juice, and you do get some vitamin C in ready-to-drink orange juice," Johnston told Reuters Health. "But I think if people knew that concentrate was a better product they would make the effort to get it.... And it's important because orange juice is a major source of vitamin C in the American diet and Americans are getting less and less in their diet. So they should try to get the best product."

    Lisa Rath, executive vice president of the Florida Citrus Processors Association--which represents about 90% of US orange juice production--said the study deserves further scrutiny. "I think we have trouble with some of the parameters of the study," she said, "but we haven't had the opportunity to review the study in depth," she said.

    But Rath added that Florida's orange juice makers "believe in our product."

    "We want to be sure we deliver a product that has the vitamin C we say it has on the label," she said.

    SOURCE: Journal of the American Dietetic Association 2002;102:525-529.
     
  22. A-Phi-A

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    Its grape juice all the way for me. Both AJ and OJ upset my tummy.

    :rolleyes:
     
  23. otter

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    I like apple juice, but I also like Tropicana's Grovestand orange juice with Calcium. I have one in my fridge and I will drink it later on this afternoon.
     
  24. johnM

    johnM Senior Member 7+ Year Member

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    I can't believe this hasn't landed a spot in the Lounge yet! :)
     
  25. Diogenes

    Diogenes Succat 7+ Year Member

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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by PTjay:
    <strong>I have heard that apple juice causes (or at least has been linked to) prostate cancer. Therefore, orange juice only for me.

    I'd still like to see the research though.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Just about every man gets prostate cancer if he lives long enough. Of course, avoiding for as long as possible is a good goal. But I'd point to reducing the amount of meat you eat and increasing the amount of vegetables, fruits, and whole grains in your diet as a better place to start than avoiding apple juice.
     
  26. souljah1

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    thanks for posting the study on the concentrated orange juice. i still thinks it tastes horrible once you are used to fresh squeezed. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

    and about prostate cancer and apple juice. bjc said it best. there are far more important things to worry about. prostate cancer and apple juice are associated, i don't believe they are correlated. makes a big difference. and yes, saturated fat, total fat, total calories, and servings of fresh fruits and veggies are much more important in terms of both the prevention and progression of prostate carcinoma.
     
  27. Diogenes

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    As for apple juice vs orange juice, it depends on what type of preparation w're talking about. If it the concentrate stuff or processed stuff then I say orange juice. That treetop style apple juice is nothing but sugarwater. But if we're talking about unfiltered, fresh-squeezed, flash-pasteurized stuff like Odwalla or Naked Juice, then I say apple.

    But fresh-squeezed anything beats processed stuff without question.
     
  28. hannacanna

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    alan jackson is so much better than oj simpson. i mean, have you heard that song "chatahoochee?" i'm for aj all the way! :D
     
  29. GATORade

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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by johnM:
    <strong>I can't believe this hasn't landed a spot in the Lounge yet! :) </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Ha, that's funny. I was just about to post the same thing. The Mods must be taking the day off.
    :cool:
     
  30. Papa Smurf

    Papa Smurf Thug 4 Life 7+ Year Member

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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by GATORaid:
    <strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by johnM:
    <strong>I can't believe this hasn't landed a spot in the Lounge yet! :) </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Ha, that's funny. I was just about to post the same thing. The Mods must be taking the day off.
    :cool: </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Actually, when Jamier disappears from the board for long periods of time, it's not really by choice. He's a victim of circumstance. He can only post when the electricity comes on up there in Kentucky, which as I'm sure y'all know, ain't very often. Sometimes it's gone for days, will come back for an hour or two, and then be gone again. Let's not question his dedication though. I think it's about time Cobragirl stepped up and picked up some slack for poor old Jamier. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />
     
  31. Jamier2

    Jamier2 SDN Hillbilly Moderator Moderator Emeritus 10+ Year Member

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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by johnM:
    <strong>I can't believe this hasn't landed a spot in the Lounge yet! :) </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Dang generator. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

    Now I'm back in the 21st century, and this thread is headed to the Lounge. :)
     

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