American Board of Perio's stance on the term 'periodontal plastic surgeon"

[cel083]

Buddy I dunno what google you're using but here's what mine says:

"Results 1 - 11 of 11 for "Periodontal plastic surgeon". (0.15 seconds)". Whatever your internet is, mine wants some of it.

Who cares? If this is what gets you going, you've got easy lives. Here's something that actually means something:

Results 1 - 30 of about 13,500 for "mercury free dentist".

Well, for "mercury free dentist" you got 600 more results than me.

I got Results 1-10 of about 12,900 for "mercury free dentist". (0.12 seconds)

I use www.google.com.

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[Doggie]

-Some of the work is done under a microscope using very high magnification. Incisions are less invasive, more precise, often smaller, and sometimes not even visible to the patient.

Translation: I wear glasses to see better because of my presbyopia. And because I use these special glasses, you wont feel any pain when I tear your gums apart. If you dont feel it, you wont notice it.

-Having a "gummy smile" is one of the more unaesthetic blemishes to one's smile, which can easily be corrected with proper planning by a surgeon with an artistic eye. A surgical method is used to lift and shape the gums to recreate balance between the amount of tooth, gum tissue and lip tissue displayed during a smile.

Translation: Wearing my special glasses allow me to have an artistic eye. Having gummy smiles is like having a bad comb-over. I will lengthen your teeth in order to reduce the amount of gum showing, much like a barber would lengthen your forehead to reduce the amount comb-over showing.

-These treatments are not meant only for movie stars but also the person standing in the elevator next to you.

Translation: Even chumps like you can look fabulous.

 

[Meatwad]

I will lengthen your teeth in order to reduce the amount of gum showing, much like a barber would lengthen your forehead to reduce the amount comb-over showing.

LMFAO, one of the funniest f***ing things I've read in a while.

 

[Jaybe]

http://www.drbaradaranperio.com/gum_disease_article.html

This douchebag calls himself a surgeon at least 3 times in the "Meet the Doctor" page on his goofy website. He even states that he did "Three years of Surgery Training after dental school". What a C*ck!

 

[Bifid Uvula]

I've said it before, and I'll say it again... "You can't call yourself a surgeon if you don't have a clue where the O.R. is!"

I hate blatantly misleading advertisements... these websites border on a thin line between deceptive/unethical and delusional!

 

[ip]

It cracks me up that you guys spend so much time on semantics.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/surgeon

"a physician who specializes in surgery."

"a medical specialist who performs surgery : a physician qualified to treat those diseases that are amenable to or require surgery"

So.... only 6 year OMFSers are apparently qualified to call themselves surgeons.

 

[servitup]

Last week a periodontist at my school referred to the perio clinic treatment room with a dental chair and unit in it as "the OR" for an implant case.

 

[servitup]

Periodentists at my school also send emails that state such things as "Would any dental student be interested in scrubbing in for an implant surgery tomorrow?" lol

 

[Wayne Coronado]

At my d-school, the betadine clown face pre-surg prep was a laugh riot.

 

[Yellowman]

At my d-school, the betadine clown face pre-surg prep was a laugh riot.

wait a minute, the periodontists at your school preps the pt's face for dental implant placement? That's even worse than scrubbing in on a non-sterile procedure Next thing you know, they are going to be placing foleys, scd's, and bear huggers for these 'surgeries.'

 

[IcedOMFS]

wait a minute, the periodontists at your school preps the pt's face for dental implant placement? That's even worse than scrubbing in on a non-sterile procedure Next thing you know, they are going to be placing foleys, scd's, and bear huggers for these 'surgeries.'

Don't forget art line, central line, and to float in a swan-ganz... You never know when you might have to monitor cardiac output in the middle of those big flaps...

 

[Doggie]

Don't forget art line, central line, and to float in a swan-ganz... You never know when you might have to monitor cardiac output in the middle of those big flaps...

Haha.....this can go on forever....

Dont forget to T&C for those unexpected fluid losses. Maybe a precordial doppler to monitor those nasty air embolisms when the Perio Plastic surgeons try to insert a central line? Last but not least, EKG to monitor for RBBB or PVC's when inserting the central lines.

 

[IcedOMFS]

Haha.....this can go on forever....

Dont forget to T&C for those unexpected fluid losses. Maybe a precordial doppler to monitor those nasty air embolisms when the Perio Plastic surgeons try to insert a central line? Last but not least, EKG to monitor for RBBB or PVC's when inserting the central lines.

Yes, especially with those perio procedures that can take several hours, you can get some major third-spacing going on with all the tissue trauma... A good CVP trace becomes essential.

Also, probably a good idea to have a vascular surgeon on stand-by when the perio plastics inadvertently cannulates the carotid on central line insertion...

And while you're at it, don't forget the diagnostic lumbar puncture to rule out septic spread from the huge bacteria load from all that deep root planing...

 

[IcedOMFS]

Yes, especially with those perio procedures that can take several hours, you can get some major third-spacing going on with all the tissue trauma... A good CVP trace becomes essential.

Also, probably a good idea to have a vascular surgeon on stand-by when the perio plastics inadvertently cannulates the carotid on central line insertion...

And while you're at it, don't forget the diagnostic lumbar puncture to rule out septic spread from the huge bacteria load from all that deep root planing...

You know, the fu#$ed up thing about all this, is I have actually done all of the above procedures... Probably why I get so angry when I hear Perio Plastics guys trying to boast about what hot **** they are... It's like they know a lot of info on a very narrow subject matter, but don't know enough to know how much else there is out there that they are totally ignorant of...

 

[Bifid Uvula]

dont forget to have the preop orders post op orders and the op note written or else u will be holding sticks and the senior doing all the cutting!

i can just see a "perio o.r." now... today we will be performing the ginival resection with the bed turned at 90degrees from the nitrous oxide unit...

 

[PFM]

i was just curious...for the OMFS residents that are on here, do you guys want to work in a hospital or have a private practice when you finish? advantages/disadvantages for each?

 

[sevodes]

What is really sad is that after all the face call, hospital rotations, boards, etc. (even with an MD) OMS will still continue to be called a "dentist" by their MD collegues. Ouch...but I guess if your are making in tons of cash pulling out thirds in private practice no one minds. Sad thing is in many areas implants are ref to perio more then OMS by both GPs and Prosth (especially esthetic cases)!!! So keep talking cr%p on this website but wait till you residents get out to private practice. Don't worry, there are plenty of implants to go around for everyone.

 

[Yellowman]

What is really sad is that after all the face call, hospital rotations, boards, etc. (even with an MD) OMS will still continue to be called a "dentist" by their MD collegues. Ouch...but I guess if your are making in tons of cash pulling out thirds in private practice no one minds. Sad thing is in many areas implants are ref to perio more then OMS by both GPs and Prosth (especially esthetic cases)!!! So keep talking cr%p on this website but wait till you residents get out to private practice. Don't worry, there are plenty of implants to go around for everyone.

What's wrong with being called a dentist? I don't think any of the OMFS guys here don't mind being called a dentist, because they are. I'd much rather be called a 'dentist' by our MD colleagues than a periodontal plastic surgeon. But that's just me.

 

[Meatwad]

What is really sad is that after all the face call, hospital rotations, boards, etc. (even with an MD) OMS will still continue to be called a "dentist" by their MD collegues. Ouch...

Actually, I'd probably just call you Bob (or whatever your first name is). If you weren't into the whole brevity thing, I'd just call you Dr. Bob (dual or single degree).

 

[WestCoast]

What's wrong with being called a dentist? I don't think any of the OMFS guys here don't mind being called a dentist, because they are. I'd much rather be called a 'dentist' by our MD colleagues than a periodontal plastic surgeon. But that's just me.

I don't know, I've seen many people, especially single degree people saying things like "I am not a dentist, but an oral surgeon." Which is actually a pretty ridiculous statement, as for example you never hear a plastic surgeon say, "I am not a physician, I am a plastic surgeon." I am proud of my dental roots and even have "DDS" proudly written on my med school lab coat.

 

[sevodes]

What's wrong with being called a dentist? I don't think any of the OMFS guys here don't mind being called a dentist, because they are. I'd much rather be called a 'dentist' by our MD colleagues than a periodontal plastic surgeon. But that's just me.

Nice. I totally agree. Alot of people I know don't share your view I am a foreskin grafter myself. I harvest this tissue and use it for ant. esthetic cases. It works well and its a perfect color match...... Also its free of hair. You do have to give IV Ancef though.

 

[Yellowman]

Nice. I totally agree. Alot of people I know don't share your view I am a foreskin grafter myself. I harvest this tissue and use it for ant. esthetic cases. It works well and its a perfect color match...... Also its free of hair. You do have to give IV Ancef though.

What if the pt has already been circumcised?

 

[MAXFAC]

What if the pt has already been circumcised?

use tissue expander

 

[scalpel2008]

use tissue expander

cialis?

 

[Doggie]

use tissue expander

haha....wont that cause priapism and eventually necrose the schlong?

 

[wizziefiend]

Periodentists at my school also send emails that state such things as "Would any dental student be interested in scrubbing in for an implant surgery tomorrow?" lol

hahahaha, this one is awesome. I would be embarrased to say something like that.

They should send that to the premeds on campus and see the dissapointment in their eyes.

We have a perio club meeting in the coming weeks that I plan on attending for fodder.

 

[Dr. Dai Phan]

I don't know, I've seen many people, especially single degree people saying things like "I am not a dentist, but an oral surgeon." Which is actually a pretty ridiculous statement, as for example you never hear a plastic surgeon say, "I am not a physician, I am a plastic surgeon." I am proud of my dental roots and even have "DDS" proudly written on my med school lab coat.

Nuf said!

 

[sevodes]

You guys are welcome to scrub in on a restorative case with a buddy of mine this Monday. It is going to be a MODB.

 

[sevodes]

Nuf said!

Dude are u related to this guy?
http://www.mcg.edu/news/mcgtoday/Spr06/story8.htm