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Answers: SIU vs. UIC

Discussion in 'Pre-Dental' started by Freddy King, Mar 27, 2002.

  1. Freddy King

    Freddy King Junior Member 7+ Year Member

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    The IL Board of Higher Education in Dec. released a detailed report on that state's dental education.

    Among the highlights of the report: SIU performance on national and regional boards consistently place them in the top 15 dental schools. They ranked second on recent NBE with 96 % getting IL license on first try.

    Report explained SIU doesn't do much research b/c there aren't enough faculty members or funding; they are a teaching college.

    In contrast, UIC was commended for its research, but little mention was made of its graduates quality of education. In fact, I don't recall seeing scores for UIC listed at all. Makes you wonder.

    The entire report can be found in PDF format at
    <a href="http://www.ibhe.state.il.us/board/agendas/2001/december/december2001.htm" target="_blank">http://www.ibhe.state.il.us/board/agendas/2001/december/december2001.htm</a>

    It is the last report, at the bottom of the page.
     
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  3. Pi_Guy1

    Pi_Guy1 Member 7+ Year Member

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    SIU-SDM = Best kept secret in the mid-west...
     
  4. steiner19er

    steiner19er Senior Member 7+ Year Member

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    Very true, SIU is a hidden gem. I got accepted to UIC, but I ain't going. I have not heard from SIU, and I haven't withdrawn my application. As of now, it looks like IU for me. Unless I get a call from Alton. :cool:
     
  5. Melbourne

    Melbourne Member 7+ Year Member

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    Steiner, would you take SIU over IU? Why or why not?
     
  6. steiner19er

    steiner19er Senior Member 7+ Year Member

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    Just got off of the phone with SIU, THE CLASS IS FULL. I am on the alternate list for the 3rd year in a row. Its bull **** if you ask me, especially since I have lived in this state for the last 25 years, and went to a public University.

    Mel.... I would probably go to SIU if the Army schollarship falls thru. The in-state tution is a bargin, compared to IU out-of-state. But truly, academically I think IU is better, Indy is just a little cooler then Alton (not by much). IU was my first choice, but SIU might win based on the $$ aspect. If I get the Army its all Indy for me.

    But this year its personal. SIU CAN GO F_U_C_K THEMSELVES. :mad: THEY HAD 3 TRIES TO GET ME, IU had no obligation to accept me, but they did, it just makes me feel more wanted. 2 previous years of rejection made me dispise UIC and SIU. <img border="0" alt="[Pissy]" title="" src="graemlins/pissy.gif" />
     
  7. vixen

    vixen I like members 10+ Year Member

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    I'm sorry steiner19er. Keep your head up :) Have you heard from any other schools? Remember we're all rooting for you here! <img border="0" alt="[Clappy]" title="" src="graemlins/clappy.gif" />
     
  8. steiner19er

    steiner19er Senior Member 7+ Year Member

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    I have been accepted to UIC and IU. Going to IU
     
  9. Yu3Er2

    Yu3Er2 Junior Member 7+ Year Member

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    When I went to the interveiw at USC, they've heard of SIU but not UIC. Funny huh? They didn't even know UIC has a dental school. That tells you something about UIC's dental school. And crazy me still going to UIC in the fall. What can I say, it's CHEAP!
     
  10. steiner19er

    steiner19er Senior Member 7+ Year Member

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    i wouldn't call you crazy for picking UIC over Marquette or USC, I would just call you dumb <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> , but thats not nice, so I would say that I hope you do well at UIC.
     
  11. Toothfairy

    Toothfairy Member 7+ Year Member

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    rjr said on 3/27/02 at 3:34pm </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> As long as the school is accredited is does not matter. FYI-all U.S. Dental Schools are accredited. The reality is when you get out and start to practice, 99% of patients don't care where you graduated from as long as you make them feel comfortable and are competent in delivering care. You can have someone who scored a 25 on DAT with a 4.0 GPA from UPEN (nothing personal) but has the common sense and people skills of an ant. You can also have someone with a solid DAT and GPA from Nova, who also has good common sense, and chairside manner. IT IS ALL UP TO THE INDIVIDUAL! WE ALL MADE IT INTO DENTAL SCHOOL AT THIS POINT, SO LETS USE THIS FORUM TO HELP EACH OTHER OUT, NOT TO PUT OTHERS DOWN TO MAKE OURSELVES FEEL BETTER/MORE SECURE. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Everyone is entitled to his /her own opinions about which schools are better. If you look at threads about other schools, you will notice negatives stated about all of them. I researched both UIC and SIU from the Gorman reports which is published every year. It basically states each dental school's program strengths, how much each school is funded, and lots of other info. Anyone interested in finding this book, can find it in a book store. It does state as of last year that UIC had a stronger reporting than SIU. This just goes to show that everyone source and every person has a different view about each school.. We are all going to dentists when we graduate. If you want to be a great dentist, you will strive to be the best, no matter where you go.
     
  12. Yu3Er2

    Yu3Er2 Junior Member 7+ Year Member

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    Toothfairy, you're right about that we are all going to be dentists. That's how I'm looking at it right now, so I don't feel too bad about going to UIC.
     

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