mfrederi said:
I am a second year at TCOM and am interested in surg, but have gotten some negative vibe from folks both a school (upperclassmen) and on this board about a DOs chances of matching into surg. Could anyone share their positive and/or negaive experiences in the surg application process? Did you take both COMLEX / USMLE? How did that work for you? Are there some allo programs that seem especially happy to match DOs? Anyone on here just apply AOA? How competitive is that? Any insight would be greatly appreciated.
FIrst off, I am a 3rd year surgical resident in an allopathic program and went to NYCOM....I don't care what anyone says, if you want to do an allopathic residency you can. I was given TERRIBLE advise by my advisers, and was basically told to do the DO match because i didnt have a chance in the MD MAtch...unfortunatley, i belived tham for a short time, until i went on the interview trail. This is what i tell every medical student who asks, and even if they dont ask....take the USMLE1 and 2....i know it sucks, but if yo want it it is the best way to level the palying ground. I had one program director say that he was so happy to see i had USMLE because know he had an objective way to compare to me to the other applicants. I know that will piss off someepeople, but too bad deal...when in rome...
Second, and i cannot emphasize this enough, go to places you are interested in, do a sub-I there, tell them your first day (and by them i mean anyone who asks) that you are interested in during a residency at that hospital...and take call every 3rd night. There is NOTHING that can compare to you shining for 30 days. My grades in med-scool where OK, my board scores OK at best, but when i did a rotation i worked my ASS off, stayed post call, and showed my residents that i could take care of patients and could handle the responsibility. Of course that meant being the first one in and the last one to leave...but believe me, the people who count noticed. I was told severa times tht on paper i would not have been taken seriously, but after my rortaion, their perception of me changed. Of couse, that means that 4th year will be hard, unlike your classmates doing FP, Int-Med or Peds, but who the hell want to do that stuff anyway.
I also think that the best way to find out where to go is to get in touch with program and see if they have DO's in the program , and talk to them. See where they did rotations, and where they applied. The truth is is that some palces wont take us...fine, there loss. But there are many more who wwill take us, and it is our responsibility to blow thaem outof the water when we get ther, so it will be easier inthe future.
If I can help in ANY way, email me and we can talk more.