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any persian girls who don't hang with persians applying/going to med school? if so where? inquiring minds want to know...i want to know!
norouz1383!!! said:you both say it as though your too good to hang out w/ persians
Persians are not Arabic. They are Persian, come from the country of Iran, and speak Farsi. The term Persian is a cultural association that is very much still in existence. Those who take on the label of persian often do so in an individual protest against the government of Iran, a government that many do not agree with.Pinkertinkle said:By Persian, you mean Arabic? Why do people using Persian even though Persia is long gone?
Pinkertinkle said:By Persian, you mean Arabic? Why do people using Persian even though Persia is long gone?
sunni said:I am! I have like all of two persian friends, actually not really friends, more like the kind i have to be nice to b/c our parents are friends i suppose it could be worse, like when we lived in cali & had mehmooni w/ about a zillion people, all of whom act like they know you, but you for the life of you can't recall where you saw them before, then it hits you, you don't know them, but grin, smile say baleh, and take the money & run........
i'm applying this year & i wanna get in a ucsd, but have been told that'll happen when hell freezes over, so i suppose i'm gonna be spending lots of time in the counselor's office picking out schools
camstah said:i realize a lot of persians here give people a bad image of all persians, and i don't want people thinking persians suck...
norouz1383!!! said:you both say it as though your too good to hang out w/ persians
Cerberus said:Probably because the Persians and Arabs have a bit of a history of killing each other...
Cerberus said:BTW - I think persian women are some of the most beautiful in the world
camstah said:huh? i don't get it...
scooter31 said:My ex is one of your kind.
Shes super-rad, too. She just got a residency back in Cali. Hope it all works out for you, like it did for her. She did get a bit of backlash for doing the MD thing (dunno why), and being unmarried at 24, and dating a white guy, and not having Persian friends in school, but otherwise, things went well for her.
If needed, PM me if you have more detailed questions that need answering.
mellantro said:i'm curious, persian parents to me seem to be a lot more liberal than their arab or south asian muslim counterparts. what do you guys think? is it more out in the open, stuff like dating and premarital sex?
i don't know any persians, but the one persian girl i knew was really pretty and all the aunties would gush over her... but this girl knew it too... so an ego to boot. yech.
camstah said:nope, i don't mean i'm too good to hang with persians.....it just means that most of the girls i meet in l.a. aren't really the kind of people i'd like to hang out with....
and i also didn't grow up being friends with a lot of persians, so it's carried over into adulthood...i also can't really speak farsi, which just widens the gap even more....and, the guy i'm with is white, which my parents have a REALLY hard time dealing with right now.....but going to ucla exposed me to more persians, and so i have one friend who's persian, but i seem to get along with those people who also are sort of "outcast" a little from their own ethnic cliques......people always say to me that i'm not like a lot of persian girls they meet....and they say it like a compliment, which on the one hand makes me feel bad because i realize a lot of persians here give people a bad image of all persians, and i don't want people thinking persians suck...but on the other hand a lot of persians i've met here do suck, so i like the fact they don't think i'm like them....i don't know, it's a tough issue to deal with for me...it seems like people judge you the second they see you (although 80% of people think i'm hispanic or italian, because i don't look typically persian) and you have to get over this barrier of pre-judgement, so once they get to know you they all eventually say you're not at all like i thought you would be.....
anyone else dealing with this? i mean, i guess it's hard for anyone caught in between two cultures....it's like where do i fit in exactly? even though my parents are very assimilated, they still have a hard time dealing with things like dating, etc...it was a shock for them to find out that at the age of 25 i had a boyfriend........it's not something i ever discussed with them, or every wanted to.....it's been a big source of stress ever since, but i refuse to feel guilty for being with someone who's not persian, and better yet, who's a cop and doesn't have a college degree (yet).....persians are so big on the college degree thing.........that was the biggest obstacle for them....
okay, i've rambled.....sorry
Cerberus said:A lot of my Persian (Iranian) Friends really have it in for the Arabs because they view the Arabs as responsible for the killing of lots of Iranians (in all those bloody wars that I know little about) and they also blame them for the theocracy in Iran.
st85 said:There is some truth to this, historically, Iranians and Arabs have not got along. You can find passages in famous iranian literature that show disdain for Arabs. Arabs and Persians have fought many wars with each other also.
camstah said:that's funny that she was harrassed for being unmarried at 24...i think my parents would like to see me in my mid-30's before that happens...the dating a white guy thing i know from first hand experience...and not having persian friends, same thing......but i got backlash when i suggested that if i don't get into med school i could do something else....in others words, MD was the only thing acceptable anymore...probaby because i had spent so much time working towards it....
Spitting Camel said:Actually, it's arab muslims... When my friends take me over to their house, they introduce me and their parents ask me where I'm from. I say Jordan, and their children are quick to interject that I am Christian. Everything is OK after that. This experience has been mostly with Zoroastrian Persians. This distrust and dislike stems from the belief/reality that Islam brutally destroyed a glorious civilization. Although it was a long time ago, people still hold onto it - just like African Americans harbor these feelings about slavery, and Jews about the holocaust (granted the holocaust wasn't that long ago...)
Persian is not a language. The language of Persians is Farsi.
Do Zoroastrian and Muslim Persians get along??? Input would be appreciated!
mellantro said:what % of people in Iran are Zoroastrian? I guess all I knew abotu Iran was that it was pretty dominated by Shi'ite Muslims. Are most Persians in the US Zoroastrian?
seev99 said:every persian girl i have ever met has been hot...holla!
docmemi said:my friend is persian and he always tells me how he hates that persians talk **** all the time. if you tell one of them one thing, the whole world finds out right away.
what do you guys think about that? do you dis/agree?
hes afraid to tell them anything about his personal life, because they talk so much. he says old persian women have nothing to do at home.
also, another q. why do you girls not like to hang out with persian girls? im not saying you should, but what is a typical persian girl like?? that you arent.
norouz1383!!! said:you both say it as though your too good to hang out w/ persians
mellantro said:what % of people in Iran are Zoroastrian? I guess all I knew abotu Iran was that it was pretty dominated by Shi'ite Muslims. Are most Persians in the US Zoroastrian?
HoodyHoo said:where is this, i don't think so.........oh wait, i'm stuck in IOWA, maybe that's why. I need to get out to Cali and actually see some good looking fellow homelander girls. Oh yeah, i'm a persian guy, and I don't hang out with persians here because there really aren't any
sunni said:i think a bunch maybe ba'hai too
Cat Scratch said:I am not Persian. I am curious as to something someone wrote earlier. She/he said that to many Persian parents its about getting the MD there's no "I'll do something else if this doesn't work out." I have Persian friends who like the idea of being a docotr okay but its not their passion yet they feel that it's absolutely necessary for them to get into med school. Even going to foreign med schools. I know a lot of Indian families feel the same as well as asian families. Please clue an ignorant white dude as to why being a physician is so big in these cultures. It's not like other careers aren't fulfilling or financially rewarding.
docmemi said:persian jews are in the same mindset. so it might be a middle eastern thing rather than a muslim thing.