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Discussion in 'Pre-Medical - DO' started by MaximusD, May 10, 2007.

  1. MaximusD

    MaximusD Anatomically Incorrect Physician 10+ Year Member

    Aug 8, 2006
    State of Delirium
    NYCOM, Drexel & Jefferson for me --

    Anyone else not heard from a school or two... and this doesn't mean post-interview. I'm talking no word since a "complete" letter or since your application was considered complete [primary (AACOMAS/AMCAS), secondary, fee, and LORs].

    I've heard horror stories about people NEVER hearing back from a school. In my opinion, that's ridiculous because you give them 50-100 dollars to read over 3 pages of information. It shouldn't be too difficult for them to send you a 1-page rejection letter.
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  3. DrVanNostran

    DrVanNostran 10+ Year Member

    Mar 19, 2006
    Drexel and Howard for me. I am not anticipating an official rejection anytime soon.
  4. spicedmanna

    spicedmanna Moderator Emeritus 7+ Year Member


    I stopped caring long ago, though, ever since I was accepted at, and decided to attend, KCUMB. It would be nice to be complete with the above, however, just for the sake of completion.
  5. Tiagao

    Tiagao Member 7+ Year Member

    Sep 9, 2004
  6. Orthodoc40

    Orthodoc40 7+ Year Member

    Haven't heard a peep from Drexel, RFU, PCOM or NYCOM. 2 of those bum me out, but whatever.
    At this point how I feel guys - it's their loss. :p They had their chance.

    BTW, a friend of mine applied last year & didn't get his rejection from Howard until late July, after he was getting interview invitations for THIS cycle! Or, at least, close to the time. Maybe it was while he was filling out secondaries. July seems too early.
  7. DrVanNostran

    DrVanNostran 10+ Year Member

    Mar 19, 2006
    lmao :laugh:

    Seems like PCOM and NYCOM are two school notorious for not letting know applicants what the deal is. (Sucks for me since those are two schools I really like)
  8. spicedmanna

    spicedmanna Moderator Emeritus 7+ Year Member

    Yeah, it does seem that way. From what I hear, it is even more important to apply early and to be complete early with those schools; they can drag their feet.
  9. Orthodoc40

    Orthodoc40 7+ Year Member

    Interestingly, PCOM claimed they had 2 applicants with my name this year. Maybe they mixed us up. Oh well. There was a time long ago when they were my first choice. Not any more!

    Both NYCOM & PCOM lean towards state residents.
  10. DrVanNostran

    DrVanNostran 10+ Year Member

    Mar 19, 2006
    I already have my personal statement and ECs written out. I will be submitting on day one baby!
  11. Orthodoc40

    Orthodoc40 7+ Year Member

    Plus call 'em up to verify you're complete. Some schools expect extra weird things from you before you're officially complete, and they don't tell you you're not.
  12. jp104

    jp104 Member 10+ Year Member

    Jan 18, 2004
    PCOM and UMDNJ-SOM here.
  13. tcamdg

    tcamdg 7+ Year Member

    May 7, 2007
    PCOM didn't even send me the "your application is complete" notice. (Yes, my application was completed, but I had to call them to confirm it.) Feels like a waste of time, effort, and money. I wish they'd selectively invite submissions of secondary applications. [cynicism] I wonder if they screen primaries without telling anyone, let those screened out send in their supplementals (and the fee), but put it straight into the circular filing cabinet. [/cynicism]

    A side note, nearly every singly communication I've had from them begins with some variation of "Sorry for taking so long..."
  14. Round2

    Round2 2+ Year Member

    Mar 21, 2007
  15. dctrgreen

    dctrgreen Junior Member 2+ Year Member

    Jul 29, 2006
    PCOM, NYCOM, and New Jersey...

    i think this is incredibly unprofessional i might add. after taking the time to complete their application and sending money, the very least they could do is send out some kind of notification and at least acknowledge that they are making a fortune out of people who (for the most part) can least afford to shell out that kind of money.

    as bad as it sucks to get a rejection letter, it at least provides some closure.

    oh well. i guess these schools don't make enough from the application fees and outrageous tuition they charge to pay the price to send out one stupid letter.

    i am just glad that i did get an acceptance elsewhere and will be starting in the fall.
  16. Trevelyan

    Trevelyan 5+ Year Member

    Aug 29, 2006
    I have not heard a word from NYCOM after being notified that they received my primary application, and I have not heard from Jefferson after I completed my secondary some time last year.
  17. Lfribble

    Lfribble 2+ Year Member

    Feb 14, 2007
    Erie, PA
    PCOM and UMDNJ. I totally agree- closure would be nice and not really all that much to ask for.
  18. Packamylase

    Packamylase MSIV 5+ Year Member

    I have not heard from PCOM yet, but I was notified last week that I will not be receiving an interview offer from OU-COM. OU-COM wishes me the best in my future endeavors. :cool:
  19. SunshineNYC

    SunshineNYC SunshineNYC 2+ Year Member

    Jan 30, 2007
    Touro - Mare Island and PCOM
  20. DrVanNostran

    DrVanNostran 10+ Year Member

    Mar 19, 2006

    This is beginning to look like an ugly trend..
  21. binx

    binx 2+ Year Member

    Oct 29, 2006
    NYCOM, PCOM, UMDNJ-SOM, & Drexel!
  22. MCATTT

    MCATTT 7+ Year Member

    Sep 20, 2006

    I don't know what went wrong. Never received any single letter from them. Not even emails.
  23. DoctorMom78

    DoctorMom78 Sky Glory 2+ Year Member

    Sep 28, 2006
    Speedwell, TN
    Hmmm....I withdrew from PCOM months ago and never bothered with the secondary for UMDNJ. Sounds like that was a good decision.:smuggrin: :laugh: :p
  24. MJB

    MJB Senior Member Physician Moderator Emeritus 10+ Year Member

    Apr 12, 2005
    I'll just say that it's been quite enlightening to see how unprofessional some schools are as I've gone through this process.
  25. StringerBell

    StringerBell It's the final countdown! 5+ Year Member

    Jan 24, 2007
    Ahhh, good for that. That's downright friendly of them. ;)
  26. StringerBell

    StringerBell It's the final countdown! 5+ Year Member

    Jan 24, 2007
    *Nod* I was very unhappy with the curt treatment that I received from Touro-CA. Very little notification of anything from them, beyond the fact that I was complete. When I asked for an e-mail status update, I received the "currently under review" treatment. When I asked again, later, they sent me an e-mail saying "There has been no change in your status since you last wrote us a month ago." I thought that was just rude; pardon me for displaying interest in your school and being proactive about my own future! I guess that's not a quality they look for in med students...

    I didn't get any real information from them until I wrote Dr. Haight, who informed me I wouldn't be getting an interview invitation because of my low science GPA. Bad news, but at least it was something. I don't think I would've heard anything by this point, if I hadn't written directly to him.
  27. StringerBell

    StringerBell It's the final countdown! 5+ Year Member

    Jan 24, 2007
    Albany sent me a 2-page rejection letter. Does that make me special?
    It listed how I could improve my numerous flaws and faults.
    Thank you, sir, may I have another?
  28. DrVanNostran

    DrVanNostran 10+ Year Member

    Mar 19, 2006

    What the frick!!! That is downright mean!!!!
  29. spicedmanna

    spicedmanna Moderator Emeritus 7+ Year Member


    Well, at least they cared enough to send you something (and informational, too), even if could have been done with better tact.

    What I dislike most are the generic rejection letters that start with, "We regret..." Yeah, right. :laugh:
  30. spicedmanna

    spicedmanna Moderator Emeritus 7+ Year Member

    There's no excuse for the run around that they gave you. :thumbdown:

    On the other hand, they pretty much have us by the perverbial balls during much of the process, don't they? It's as you stated before, "Thank you, Sir! May I have some more?" I guess there's no compelling incentive for these agencies to behave in a particularly noble manner for the most part, as demand for us to use their services remain greater than their need for us to apply there. We pay them to judge us as qualified, or not, to pay them even more money to attend their institution.

    I'm so glad that this part of the process is over.
  31. bravotwozero

    bravotwozero Chronically ambitious 10+ Year Member

    Sep 19, 2004
    Nycom, Pcom, Umdnj
  32. Sarikate

    Sarikate Full of antioxidants 5+ Year Member

    Dec 22, 2004
    Both PCOMs and MSU. Jeez louise, people. I'm even from Philly!
  33. bravotwozero

    bravotwozero Chronically ambitious 10+ Year Member

    Sep 19, 2004
    Now that I remember, I'm still waiting on KCOM too. yeesh.
  34. koennen

    koennen Lend Me An Ear 10+ Year Member

    Oct 30, 2006
    Philadelphia, PA
    Oh, come on now. You dislike generic rejection letters? So you think that med schools that receive thousands and thousands of applications should take the time to write each applicant an individualized rejection letter?? You're not serious, are you? And you would be happier if the rejection letter said, "We are pleased to inform you ... "?
  35. GreenShirt

    GreenShirt 10+ Year Member

    Feb 6, 2007
    It's not the lack of uniqueness, but the mock sympathy that are enshrouded in statements such as "We regret...".

    One of my co-workers got the worst one of theses I've ever seen: "It is with regret that I inform you that we will be unable to offer an interview this year. This is a disappointment, as much for those who are responsible for the decision as it may be for you, the candidate who is turned away....We acknowledge and respect your accomplishments, and recognize that our inability to offer you an opportunity to complete the admissions proces is a loss for X university."

    Puh-leeease, it hurts us as much as it hurts you? Just say the person's app is no longer being considered and be short about it. No one wnats to read 3 or 4 lines to get that message.
  36. DrVanNostran

    DrVanNostran 10+ Year Member

    Mar 19, 2006

    I agree completely. Honestly, all I want is every school to have a decently functioning and accurate online account center. Don't send me a letter, you don't even have to say sorry, just check the box that says rejected :cool:
  37. Onstarr

    Onstarr 2+ Year Member

    Feb 5, 2007
    Pcom & Nycom :(
  38. koennen

    koennen Lend Me An Ear 10+ Year Member

    Oct 30, 2006
    Philadelphia, PA
    How do you know it's "mock sympathy"? Are you so jaded by this process that you can't even admit the possibility that some (not all) admissions folks genuinely regret that the limited number of seats means that many well-qualified applicants must be turned away?

    I recently had the responsibility of hiring someone for my department. I had three excellent candidates, but only one position. I genuinely did regret having to tell two excellent candidates that they weren't being selected for the position. It wasn't "mock sympathy." Being admitted, or not being admitted to medical school, is a life-altering event. Admissions people understand this.

    OK. I agree that the "it hurts us as much as it hurts you" approach is a little over the top. But one extreme example doesn't establish that all rejection letters are disingenuous.
  39. spicedmanna

    spicedmanna Moderator Emeritus 7+ Year Member

    Well, some do appear to be individualized, as evidenced by StringerBell's letter, but, you are correct, most letters are likely to be quite generic, for good reason. I actually thought one letter that was sent to me was believeable, but the rest, not so much.

    I'm not impervious to tone, and I believe that I have a fairly well-develop sense for authenticity. In other words, I think I can detect what sounds like disingenuity in a piece of writing. Whether it is truly the case that the writer is being disingenous, or not, I can't actually know. I'm sure it's true that in some cases there is actual regret, but it seems likely that by-in-large, the writer is simply fulfilling a job duty. When I read the words of one director of admissions, I actually believed that this person cared about the process greatly and had read through all of the applications, considering and reviewing quite carefully before making a decision. At least that's how that individual made me feel and how that person's tone came across in the personally signed rejection letter. Most of the rejection letters that I received were generic and neutral in tone, however. Honestly, when I read the important lines of most of these letters, I sort of checked out.

    Anyway, it is more accurate and unarguable to say that I projected disingenuity, or at least disinterest, onto many of the rejection letters I received. I projected sincerity onto one that I received. Whether these were accurate projections, or not, is perhaps, impossible to know. In any case, I'm no longer interested in placing my attention onto them. However, any way we cut it, in most cases, rejection hurts.

    My projections notwithstanding, I appreciate that I received a definitive answer from a majority of the places that I applied and followed through with. Again, I'm glad that this part of the process is finished.
  40. Lamont

    Lamont Neverending Storyteller 2+ Year Member

    Feb 22, 2007
    a couple...pretty dang bad of them to send NOTHING back
  41. LiLLaur3

    LiLLaur3 2+ Year Member

    Feb 23, 2007
    We should start an official count...PCOM!
  42. docem

    docem 2+ Year Member

    Oct 20, 2006
    PCOM- Not a word since they sent me their secondary. I had to call to make sure they received it.

    I did finally hear from UMDNJ last week, but I got a letter for their special masters program a month before I got the rejection letter...needless to say I thought it was pretty clear from the SMP notice that I didn't get in.
  43. Dr. GG

    Dr. GG 2+ Year Member

    Dec 16, 2006
    UMDNJ-COM, PCOM, NYCOM. I can't believe they did this to this many people! How unprofessional!
  44. liveforareason


    Feb 9, 2007
    NYCOM and PCOM for me.
  45. theraball

    theraball Panned 10+ Year Member

    Nov 22, 2005
    Glendale, AZ
    both PCOM's, UMDNJ-SOM, NYCOM, VCOM, OSUCOM, and one other--KCUMB? I forget. These people took my money and have not bothered even to send an email. I could have bought a really nice digital camera with that money :(

    Anyway, I got in somewhere and that's what counts :)
  46. spicedmanna

    spicedmanna Moderator Emeritus 7+ Year Member

    Thus far, here are the results that my calculations yield:

    1 TUCOM-Mare Island
    1 Touro-NY
    1 VCOM
    1 OSUCOM
    1 KCUMB
    2 KCOM
    11 UMDNJ-SOM
    11 NYCOM
    19 PCOM (PA and/or GA)

    PCOM is the winner so far, followed by a tie between UMDNJ-SOM and NYCOM, and then the trio of NYCOM, PCOM, and UMDNJ-SOM occurring together.
  47. spicedmanna

    spicedmanna Moderator Emeritus 7+ Year Member

    That's so unlike KCUMB. They are usually one of the quicker responding schools. If you are still interested, call them and ask what's up; they have a very friendly and forthcoming admissions staff.
  48. UMDNJ - But thanks for cashing that check for my secondary!
  49. poormansDO

    poormansDO *** member 5+ Year Member

    Dec 1, 2005
    PCOM (since last year), NYCOM and Touro-NY
  50. pineapple

    pineapple Guest

    Nov 24, 2006
  51. Kappy1

    Kappy1 Bleach and Glass Cleaner 5+ Year Member

    Feb 28, 2007
    In my Imagination
    I have still not heard back from PCOM as well as PCOM-GA. But I don't care because I'm accepted to NYCOM!!!:clap: :bow: :banana:

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