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Any thoughts on St. George's University Medical School in the Caribbean?

Discussion in 'Pre-Medical - MD' started by doc4you, May 7, 2007.

  1. doc4you

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    Hi,

    Anyone know what it's like here? How difficult is it to gain admittance? What do they look for in applicants? Is the training truly comparable to a US school?

    Any insight would be great...thanks
     
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  3. gotmeds?

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    Exactly how badly did you bomb the MCAT? Maybe you should consider a retake before going to the Caribbean.
     
  4. spicedmanna

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    I don't think this is right place to ask, as you are likely to get a biased answer. Check out the Caribbean forum here on SDN and take a look at ValueMD.
     
  5. DrVanNostran

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    Most of your questions can be answered in great depth at www.valuemd.com

    I am also considering the carribean also and still not sure what to do.
     
  6. DropkickMurphy

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    How's your credit rating? :smuggrin: [/sarcasm]
     
  7. pennybridge

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    st george's is carribean ivy league, yo!

    it's like Harvard with a beach.
     
  8. DrVanNostran

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    Doc4you, there are a lot of people who are going through same struggles as you. Don't take any knocks personally. Choosing to go to SGU is a major major step, make sure you are fully confident in whatever decision you make.

    PM me if you want to discuss.
     
  9. notdeadyet

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    With the understanding that you'll be likely to get a biased answer there as well.

    Folks on the IMG rah-rah that form of med school as much as folks in pre-allo turn their nose up at it. Balance views there with views here and you'll probably have something.
     
  10. gotmeds?

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    Hey, it wasn't a knock. I just noticed his other post on the MCAT forum. I think that if you have any shot at MD or DO, you should take it over the Caribbean.
     
  11. DrVanNostran

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    Hey didn't mean you :) I just have a feeling this thread will turn into another war soon bashing on the OP, so just wanted to warn him in advance :p

    I can also relate to the OP since I have been the victim of a lot of critism, I don't have the greatest application :oops:
     
  12. pennybridge

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    but it's not the worst, either. How many times have you applied?
     
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    I loved the video tour of SG on their website, looks like paradise. And seriously, it is one of the most respected caribean schools.

    On SDN with the huge amounts of GPA and MCAT inflations it is easy to forget that 53% of physicians in the US are actually foreign trained. Like someone else said, I would go MD or DO here before I went to SG, but SG certainly does put out a lot of successful physicians.
     
  14. DrVanNostran

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    Anyone know what it's like here?

    I cant tell you, since I have never been there.

    What do they look for in applicants?

    http://sgu.edu/website/sguwebsite.nsf/som/medsciences-admissions.html

    Avg MCAT: 26, 8V, 9P, 9B
    Avg GPA: 3.4

    There is a regional interview as well.

    Is the training truly comparable to a US school?

    US schools have more resources, affilitaitions, etc. Going to a US school will for the most part have superior training.

    Going to SGU, you will have less opportunities for research, etc. Also, your clinicals wont be as good as US schools. The list goes on and on.

    The debate will go on for a long time, this decision ultimately comes down to you and it your preferences.
     
  15. DrVanNostran

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    Well, its a long story. I have a few bumps in the road. I recently improved my MCAT, this is my fourth year in the process :oops: I interviewed a lot this year, and unfortunately on a bunch of wait lists. I wish I had applied to osteopathic schools, but I think wherever I end up going this fall or in the fall of '08 I will go in with a greater appreciation for medicine.
     
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  17. spicedmanna

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    Agreed. I guess I didn't consider that initially, since I know what the pre-allo/pre-osteo view happens to be; not everyone has that information, however. So, good call, NDY. :thumbup:
     
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    Revised
     
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    You should go to the carribean forum here or www.valuemd.com. It's not hard to get in since it's considered a 'last resort' for those that cant' get into med school in the US. They do succeed in sending people into residencies, but the attrition rate is high and it is not an 'easy' route into becoming a doctor because they won't give you shortcuts into residencies. Also, the vast majority of students end up in primary care so you will be restricted in where and what areas of speciality you can do. My suggestion is if you can afford to wait a year to improve your application, I think you should. Going carribean means extra hoops to jump through AFTER you get done with med school. I'd rather go through extra hoops BEFORE I get into med school rather than spend thousands and then do the extra legwork.
     
  20. spicedmanna

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    This is OT, but DVN, I hope this is the magic year for you. :luck:
     
  21. DrVanNostran

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    Thanks spicedmanna, I really appreciate. I am getting used to reapplying though, it has become a part of my yearly routine. :oops:
     
  22. DrVanNostran

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    http://www.sgu.edu/ERD/ResidPost.nsf/BYPGY?OpenView&RestrictToCategory=PGY1&Count=-1

    2007 Postgraduate Training Match for SGUSOM


    By John Madden, Emergency Physician and President, Medical and Dental Staff, Christiana Care Health System, Newark, Delaware

    From USC to University of Massachusetts, LSU to Medical College of Wisconsin and Texas A&M to UMDNJ, St. George's University Medical School graduates once again achieved residency programs across the nation. In the largest match since 1952, 340 SGU students matched in a wide variety of residency programs. Once again, Internal Medicine was the largest percentage (33%), followed by Pediatrics (11%), with Family Medicine and Obstetrics and Gynecology with 9% each, and followed closely by General Surgery (8%), Emergency Medicine (7%) and Anesthesiology (6%). Two students matched in orthopedics (only 616 positions in the country) while five matched in physical medicine and rehabilitation that only has 78 spots nationwide. For the first year ever for SGUSOM, the number of students entering emergency medicine declined to 22. This decline demonstrates the increasing interest of all medical students in the field, making it more competitive.

    Many SGUSOM Fourth Year medical students do not participate in the match, instead signing a contract "outside the match" or "pre-matching" allowing them to forgo match participation. This allows them to process any required visa applications earlier, perhaps arrange housing or make other plans well ahead of those who participate in the match program.

    Overall, of those SGU students who were eligible to submit a rank order list in the match, 73% were successfully matched into a first and/or second year residency program. Worldwide, international medical students only match 50% of the time. If you were to remove SGU students from the overall figure, international medical student successful matching would decrease to 44%.
     
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    Dr. Van...

    You didn't get into a US allo school? I thought you would have been a shoe in.
     
  24. DrVanNostran

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    Hey Sartre, looks like you decided on Creighton, grats! :hardy:

    I had a good amount of interviews this year, but so far luck has not been on my side. Im on a few waitlists, but my post-interview hold at RFU seems like my only legitimate shot.

    Until then, I have to keep all options open.:oops:
     
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    Keep your head up...waitlists will start moving in a couple of weeks.
     
  26. DrVanNostran

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    Thanks :) I just need one, pleaaaaaaase :oops:
     
  27. GujuMD

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    same here!....i am only a 2nd time reapp. but there is a lot of family pressure on me to move my life forward.
     
  28. UIC Killa

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    Hang on for DMU Guju, waitlists are very unpredictable no matter how late it is in the process (I have heard of some people getting the call in late June maybe even in July), my friend last year at CCOM for pharmacy was accepted like a few weeks before school started so there is hope...good luck:thumbup:
     

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