ndi amaka:
1: How does a thread that attempts to embrace a common background and experience automatically imply opposition to other races? "embracing a common background and experience" is one of the many phrases the KKK uses to describe their organization. nationalism is pride in one's nation. it has led to NUMEROUS wars. having pride in / "embracing" one's racial makeup can feel really good, i'm sure, but it also celebrates what one group IS and the rest of people AREN'T. it celebrates the "us" in the world of "them". even if it has benefits, it also has a downside. an attempt to start an organization entitled "white men for the future of america" would be met with two responses: "that's racist!" and "that's unnecessary, since white men are already presumed to control the future of america in every instance where it is not explicitly stated to be otherwise." both of these responses are entirely unacceptable because they imply that any given while male is somehow represented by "white men" in general. this country may have been founded by white men, but realize that the control of this nation has always, without fail, rested in the hands of RICH, POWERFUL, ELITE white males, and the rest of us (white males) are left just as powerless as any minority. the difference is that now it has become not only acceptable but welcomed by society for minorities to form groups for support and for furtherance of their ideals, but the non-rich, non-powerful (poor and weak) white males are left with no support and the presumption that they don't need it and, further, the presumption that if they try to form a support group or network that it's simply a disguise for racist motivations. BS.
2: In the 104 pages of that thread, where does it promote antagonism or hatred or any other ill feelings or contempt toward any race or gender? don't know. i never asserted that the content of the thread promotes those negative things. the very existence of the thread does the job all by itself, and most likely without the knowledge of any of the many participants and contributors. racism is very often not a conscious thing, but starting a group that says "US" and thus implying that there is a discrete "THEM," and basing that on race and gender is a sure-fire way to promote racial division and sexism. what's next, special drinking fountains? oh, wait, that was already done, and that was struck down as unconstitutional. i can't believe i am even having this conversation, it is so incredibly clear what a double standard there is on this issue, it's not even funny.
3: Please...point out one entry to me that should incite a thread like this? incite? there is no venom in me, m'lady. i am frustrated by the (deliberate?) blindness that exists on this issue. just as you might tell me that i could "never possibly understand what kinds of adversity and difficulties" a black woman faces in the pursuit of a medical education, i can tell you truthfully that you would have an equally hard time understanding and treating seriously the difficulties faced in society by white men. you're probably either livid at this last statement now, or at least rolling your eyes at it. either way, it validates the statement. you can't understand it if you won't even acknowledge that it can be true. i haven't even touched on the whole gender bias issue, but if you would like to shift the focus to that i'd be just as happy explaining my reasons for believing that there is a great deal of discrimination against men that occurs in our society regardless of race.
call it whatever you want. when people get into groups based on race and gender, and then 'celebrate' their race and/or gender, there are others who are left out of the 'celebration'. this is segregation and discrimination, period.
How does the black female thread differ from other 'ethnic' premed threads that have been started in the past besides its longevity? it doesn't. the black female premed thread is just the most ostentatious example of this ridiculousness. Oh, I know! Some insecure prick has to start a "white male" thread in respone to discuss why the existence of the black female premed thread is such an affront to the large underclass of downtrodden and oppressed white males. oh, so when i want equality, i'm insecure. when you want it, it's justice. and, just as the cherry on top of the sundae, i'm insecure. and a prick. and white, despite the fact that i'm 50% lebanese. excellent way to make your point--3rd grade insults that are about as on-target as a 14-shot drunk trying to pee into a soda can with one eye open. Why do you feel so threatened by the thread? threatened by the thread? i'm not, and i don't feel threatened, either. why don't YOU feel threatened by the fact that apparently it is acceptable for black women to feel that they NEED this thread in order to succeed, or at least to do well? what would it say about me if i only sought the company of other half-lebanese men? you want to talk insecure, that's where it is, lady. Who said you can't participate? nobody said i can't participate. unless you count the huge sign labelling the thread "are there any black female pre-meds." let's see how happy you'd be if there was a job posting at your hospital of choice entitled "wanted: white male surgeon (but all welcomed to participate in interviews)" The only one creating boundaries here is you. wrong again; the boundaries were created by the folks who deemed it important to have a thread devoted exclusively to female black people who were pre-med majors. if that's not a boundary, then why don't i just ignore the "women" sign on the public bathrooms while we're at it? 
