Anyone choose state school over top 5 or 10 private?

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  1. dlc

    dlc Senior Member

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    I have been debating in my head over and over whether to go to MCG or Duke and was just wondering if anyone here is going to go to their state school (except for California schools) over a top school. I don't want to regret that I didn't go to Duke but I want to hear someone else say that they have been comfortable paying nearly twice as much for the same education.
     
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    what does the financial aid package at duke look like?
     
  4. dlc

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    If I go to Duke, I am looking at, at most, $166,000 in loans over the 4 years, which in most cases I would be comfortable with. As for MCG, it would be $80,000 in loans.
     
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    Hey-

    I think the real question, where will you be MOST happy at? Money is relative in the long run.
    Who cares ofg MCGF is cheaper if you're miserable and vice versa. Your happiness should be the most important consideration - it's your life!

    -b
     
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    Yes. --Trek
     
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    well, what do you want to do career wise? If you're simply looking for primary care or something in Atlanta, then MCG is a good way to go (and how do calculate MCG costing 80K total, even with housing, over 4 years? Is it that expensive to live in Augusta (Cant imagine living expenses would be more than 6K, I live in Atlanta and probably dont spend 10K in living expenses).

    Not to say you couldn't at MCG, but Duke could open so many doors for you. If you want to go into something high profile, surgery, dermatology, research, Duke's the way to go. That first year must be a killer, but you pretty much get a "do whatever you want" card during M2, so you can do something extraordinary to help secure the residency of choice later on. So, it depends on what you want.
     
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    dlc,

    I chose UNC (not my state school, but *a* state school) over Duke, but like any decision it was very much due to factors specific to my situation.

    Like others have said, it all depends on what you want to do--though if you're anything like me, you have no real idea what you want to do right now.

    I sent you a PM as well.
     
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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> well, what do you want to do career wise? If you're simply looking for primary care or
    something in Atlanta, then MCG is a good way to go (and how do calculate MCG costing 80K
    total, even with housing, over 4 years? Is it that expensive to live in Augusta (Cant imagine
    living expenses would be more than 6K, I live in Atlanta and probably dont spend 10K in living
    expenses).

    Not to say you couldn't at MCG, but Duke could open so many doors for you. If you want to go
    into something high profile, surgery, dermatology, research, Duke's the way to go. That first
    year must be a killer, but you pretty much get a "do whatever you want" card during M2, so you
    can do something extraordinary to help secure the residency of choice later on. So, it depends
    on what you want. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">DLC,

    I used to work over at IMMAG at MCG and lived in Augusta until very recently. One of my friends living in Augusta made the decision to go to Duke even after he got a large scholarship from MCG. Why? His mom and dad are both docs working at MCG or affiliates. Both received their MD's from Duke. And even though my friend and his family are real close, I think both parents of them wanted their son to get the best education possible, irregardless of what residency decision you make later. And their son agreed.

    On the face of it, I think the primary care training you'd find at Duke is better than MCG's [even peds and emergency medicine, which are good at MCG], and I definitely think almost all of the speciality training is better at Duke.

    Yours,

    Jason
     
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    Sign o the times. Funny how dermatology is considered a high profile field <img border="0" alt="[Laughy]" title="" src="graemlins/laughy.gif" /> these days.
     
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    I hope to go into a surgical field, possibly reconstructive surgery. I was also wondering about how a mediocre Duke grad would stand against a top student at MCG...I hear about how one needs AOA status in order to be competitive for certain fields. I know reconstructive surgery is competitive (is surgery?) but if I do well at Duke, would I still need AOA status?
     
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    What's an AOA status?
     
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    AOA status is the medical honor society and I think it is given to students in the top 15 % of their class...by the way I just spoke to another MD and got some further insight into my situation. Now if I can only convince my parents that it is okay to go into debt...
     
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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by dlc:
    <strong>AOA status is the medical honor society and I think it is given to students in the top 15 % of their class...by the way I just spoke to another MD and got some further insight into my situation. Now if I can only convince my parents that it is okay to go into debt...</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Who's going into the debt? You or your parents? Listen to their advice, weigh all the evidence you gather, make your decision, and then, don't convince them it's okay, just tell them.
     
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    I think the decision is fairly relative.. It's totally up to you wether you think the reputation factor is worth the extra money.. The average debt at MCG is more like 55-60,000 and not anywhere near 80,000 though.. If you want to do academic research or go into some incredibly competitive field like derm or neurosurgery, Duke is probably worth the cost.. You might want to consider other factors though like the competitiveness of the student body and how helpful the faculty really is.. I've got a strong 3.8 gpa, a relatively good mcat, lots of ec's and I feel good about MCG, especially the faculty.. I know MCG grads that have matched in Surgery and Derm, and the percentage of students that match with one of their top three choices is near that of Emory.. Make sure you are comfortable with the school, weigh the financial considerations, and go for it if you think you will be happy...

    -DP
     
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    I would have if I'd had the option. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="frown.gif" />
     
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    Are you sure that Duke would be 166,000? Unless you have very wealthy parents that don't want to share, my understanding of Duke's financial aid was that it was pretty generous. If you need to make your decision soon, I would suggest calling Duke's financial aid's office and telling them about your predicament.
     
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    This is an extreme example (at least I think)...

    A friend of mine has chosen to go to UC Irvine instead of Johns Hopkins. At first I thought she was crazy (I can only imagine what the JHU adcom thought), but given her particular circumstances she believes that she'll be happier at UCI. I'm proud of her for making that decision, because I don't know if there would be any reason compelling enough to cause me to give up my spot at the #2 school.
     
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    Thank you for all of your replies! I have finally made a decision...I am going to Duke. I thought about everything over and over and figured, Duke had been my first choice all along and if I didn't go I would regret it. As for the $166,000, I am a little confused as to why my debt will be so high considering that Duke's average debt is around $60,000. My parents are not wealthy but for some reason I don't come out as needy as others, even though I have no money and my parents won't be helping me. I assumed my debt from MCG would be around $80,000 because for first year they gave me $20,000 in loans, which is what was suggested for me. But, I figure, I won't be the only one in debt and since I am hoping to go into a high profile field, hopefully my Duke degree will open doors for me (so many people have told me this). Besides, I really wasn't too excited to be in Augusta for the next four years.
    Dana
     
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    Congrats, Dana! Like I mentioned before, you'll feel a lot better now that the decision is made.
     
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    Good choice Dana! A friend of mine declined WashU MD/PhD for UCSD's. I was so happy she did cause I felt she would have been miserable at WashU. She's from Cali. In your case you're looking at a competitive field for which Dook will give you a better shot than MCG.
     

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