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My institution's travel department has put an automatic "Deny all travel funding within the next 30 days" response. For a conference I've already booked and paid for.
 
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Protip: If you use amex, they can fix all that. Get refunds, etc.
‘Fear of a pandemic’ is specifically excluded on Visa - maybe Amex is different but Delta waived change fees for international travel that now must be concluded by 28 November (one year from booking date). This was a fluid situation and changed between Saturday (when all changes/cancellations were denied) and Wednesday (when I was told they will help in any way possible).

What have the Conference organizers suggested? Many academic places and businesses have a ban on non-essential travel currently.
 
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Not a state ban - institutional ban/strong recommendation.
I was responding to the state and institutions as a whole. The state unis have no travel restrictions. Our state psych association just sent a delegation to DC for the PLC, none of my colleagues in other healthcare systems or such have any restrictions for conferences this month.
 

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International travel is being widely restricted but I didn't think most institutions were limiting domestic travel. That's wild.

Though it may be a moot point as a lot of meetings are being cancelled or postponed, and that's likely to only increase over the next few weeks. The recent cancellation of HIMSS has been big news (though probably not to most psychologists).
 
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Yeah, it's all variable. I believe the policy for no non-essential travel just went into place for the VA yesterday. Many of the northeast institutes (MGH, Dana Farber) are as well. My conference specifically hasn't been cancelled, but I haven't heard back from the organizers regarding an update or recommendation.

Yup, domestic and international. It's wild.
 

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Update, double checked, the large state Uni restricted university funded travel to Level 3 countries, but that's it.
 

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Curious if people think this is necessary? Full disclosure: I have a domestic vacation scheduled at the end of March and I can’t decide if this is hype or if I should reschedule it. Not worried I’ll die of a virus or anything but it would suck to drop money on a trip and spend the whole thing feeling like crap.
 
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Curious if people think this is necessary? Full disclosure: I have a domestic vacation scheduled at the end of March and I can’t decide if this is hype or if I should reschedule it. Not worried I’ll die of a virus or anything but it would suck to drop money on a trip and spend the whole thing feeling like crap.
If you wouldn't cancel a vacation for fear of the flu, I wouldn't cancel it for this.
 

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If you wouldn't cancel a vacation for fear of the flu, I wouldn't cancel it for this.
Good point. Thanks for the feedback. The other thing I’m nervous about is that the airline will scrap my flights because of cancellations... and close to the date which would leave me stuck with the deposits.
 

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Ugh. With all these conferences & meetings cancelled & other hype who knows what the airlines will have to do to avoid a total crash.
 

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Yeah, this was a pretty ill-timed pandemic from my perspective. I have 1 conference, 2 study section meetings and 1 personal trip all in the next 1.5 months.

As of today I am still planning to go to all, but time will tell. All are still happening and sending out regular "Hey, this is still happening despite coronavirus" emails. None of my speakers at the conference (I'm chairing two panels) have notified me they are cancelling and I would HOPE they aren't just going to no-show on me.

Only one place I'm going (San Francisco) has been impacted. I also have remarkably low anxiety about things like this despite being a generally neurotic person. As of right now, I am more concerned about population mental health than population physical health. I had to go to three stores the other day to find toilet paper. We aren't stocking up, it was just on the shopping list.
 

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My institution's travel department has put an automatic "Deny all travel funding within the next 30 days" response. For a conference I've already booked and paid for.
Same here. Our university has suspended all domestic and international travel for students, will not provide funding/reimbursement "for the foreseeable future," and will not honor previously promised reimbursements. :/
 

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Chiming in from Boston -- I just head from a friend that the Partners Healthcare system (MGH, Brigham/Womens, McLean, etc.) just indefinitely banned all travel to local, international, and national conferences. They also banned Partners hosting Boston-area conferences in which people from outside the system would attend.

This is freaking WILD. I get the precaution, but WTF.
 
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My university AMC has restricted all domestic travel to any state which has declared a state of emergency. As of this AM there were 4 states, including Florida, which only has 3 cases, so it's a confusing time. Anyone who travels to those places on personal business is supposed to self-quarrantine upon return which put a real wrinkle in my coworker's plan to attend a wedding in FL this weekend.
 
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I just got an email that our institution has canceled interstate business travel.

Kinda seems crazy.
 
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Our VA region just cancelled non essential travel for next 2 months. Awaiting whether I can present at upcoming conference since it's local.

Unclear what will happen with my conference fee since our procedure is that I pay it and then get reimbursed once it's over.
 

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Chiming in from Boston -- I just head from a friend that the Partners Healthcare system (MGH, Brigham/Womens, McLean, etc.) just indefinitely banned all travel to local, international, and national conferences. They also banned Partners hosting Boston-area conferences in which people from outside the system would attend.

This is freaking WILD. I get the precaution, but WTF.
Several new COVID-19 cases linked to recent meeting in Boston

There are more states testing positive for people with the virus, many who have traveled around or outside of the country. Even WHO is giving weekly briefings:
WHO Director-General's opening remarks at the media briefing on COVID-19 - 6 March 2020
 

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My institution (in NYC) is prohibiting all work-related travel (conferences, research, business), both international and domestic, for at least the next 60 days. They are providing updates on a daily basis so who knows how much longer they will push out those restrictions as things unfold here.

Personal travel is also being cracked down on for international trips. If you go to any of the countries with the biggest outbreaks, they will require a 2-week self-quarantine period. Nothing yet for personal domestic travel, but we'll see.
 

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Just attended a conference yesterday which happened to take place a a large, crowded casino. Attendees majority of attendees do home- or school-based clinical services. No extra concern or preparation. To sure if that’s short-sighted or an appropriate level of non-panic. I coughed regularly throughout the conference and while walking around the casino floor (getting over regular flu, then a plain old cold, with asthma aggravated by the fact that SMOKING IS ALLOWED IN THE CASINO!,). Nobody said anything to me. If this COVID19 thing is here and is really dangerous, we’re all pretty much f****d.

Big national/international conference is Memorial Day weekend in Washington DC. I’m very curious how that will play out. Going to wait to until very last minute to make reservations just in case.
 

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It is wild to me to see the reactions here to the cancellations and bans on non-essential travel. I'm in a hotspot, so this all seems like a natural reaction. AERA's cancellation in particular is prudent given that the San Francisco Bay area is being hit badly.
 
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Update: 2 of 5 speakers on my panel are now out due to institutional travel bans. Most of the people I wanted to see present are no longer going due to travel bans (which I believe is now Harvard, NYU, MSK, MD Anderson, UW, WSU, FDA, and CDC). I know Penn, Stanford, UCSF and Duke are all <strongly discouraging> any travel and people are pulling out). I am sure there are others I just don't have connections at that I can find out about.

At this point I am thinking they might as well cancel the whole thing. Even if it happens I am not sure it will be worth attending with half the usual folks MIA.
 

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Update: 2 of 5 speakers on my panel are now out due to institutional travel bans. Most of the people I wanted to see present are no longer going due to travel bans (which I believe is now Harvard, NYU, MSK, MD Anderson, UW, WSU, FDA, and CDC). I know Penn, Stanford, UCSF and Duke are all <strongly discouraging> any travel and people are pulling out). I am sure there are others I just don't have connections at that I can find out about.

At this point I am thinking they might as well cancel the whole thing. Even if it happens I am not sure it will be worth attending with half the usual folks MIA.
If I were leading a panel and 2 of 5 were already out then I would probably cancel. Recently I was party to a "should we or shouldn't we cancel?" convo, and the general thought was that restrictions are only going to increase over the next couple of weeks and there's no need to delay a decision just to wait for the writing on the wall to play out.
 

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Ain’t nobody cancelled my travel funding.

...they might prefer me sick.
 
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Just attended a conference yesterday which happened to take place a a large, crowded casino. Attendees majority of attendees do home- or school-based clinical services. No extra concern or preparation. To sure if that’s short-sighted or an appropriate level of non-panic. I coughed regularly throughout the conference and while walking around the casino floor (getting over regular flu, then a plain old cold, with asthma aggravated by the fact that SMOKING IS ALLOWED IN THE CASINO!,). Nobody said anything to me. If this COVID19 thing is here and is really dangerous, we’re all pretty much f****d.

Big national/international conference is Memorial Day weekend in Washington DC. I’m very curious how that will play out. Going to wait to until very last minute to make reservations just in case.
Did you see that CalABA got cancelled right before it started?
 

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Symposium now cancelled and I withdrew my other talk. Conference is forging ahead despite nearly 1/3 having already canceled registration and I am sure many more will in the next couple days. Risk remains low for domestic travel so I am not terribly concerned for myself personally, but with virtually all the top institutions in my field on travel ban it is unlikely to be worth 4 days of my time.

If they cancel it apparently bankrupts the society so I get why they are choosing to move forward, but it is still a bit surprising. This conference heavily tilts towards public health and policy so needless to say...many people are not overly fond of this decision.

Surgeon general is also still planning to attend. Which kinda hypocritical on his part given everything he has been saying...
 
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Did you see that CalABA got cancelled right before it started?
I heard that. I’m curious how things will play out. I’ve got MassABA (~1000 attendees) in early May, and of course ABAI. I’m holding out on making ABAI reservations as long as I can, and will be planning on taking the train rather than than flying. I selfishly hope it gets cancelled, as it would be nice to have the holiday weekend at home.
 
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They're starting to suggest travel restrictions here. We're also planning for plan B for our own state psych conference coming up. What a mess. With adequate screening and focused mitigation measures, most of this was likely avoidable.
 
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Does anyone think there will be impact on things like state exams? I'm supposed to be taking a state jurisprudence this week...

At this point, it seems anything is fair game for panic.
 

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Does anyone think there will be impact on things like state exams? I'm supposed to be taking a state jurisprudence this week...

At this point, it seems anything is fair game for panic.
You'll be fine, looks like only large gathering type events are being canceled so far. We've likely got a ways to go until we see something like Italy level quarantines. But, who knows, with how badly the Trump Administration has handled things so far, anything is possible in terms of how low this can sink.
 
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Why? Testing centers aren’t exactly a place for people to mingle.

The travel cancelations is probably 99% companies seizing an opportunity to not spend money on CE and CME which is a part of people’s compensations.
 

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Why? Testing centers aren’t exactly a place for people to mingle.

The travel cancelations is probably 99% companies seizing an opportunity to not spend money on CE and CME which is a part of people’s compensations.
It's the conference organizers canceling events. And, these are people who DO NOT want to cancel these events, as they usually constitute their biggest money makers of the year.
 

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If only there were mechanisms in place to plan for these things, experts in positions to manage a pandemic, and research into these areas...

Oh wait....science and research are fake news, let"s just hope it goes away bc the stock market is the best it's every been! Wait ....it was suspended? Well...the ECONOMY is the....wait...that's bad too.

Ugh...I know, political...but anti-science policies combined w. putting political priorities above the safety of our nation sure threw gasoline on the fire.
 

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Yes, because many of the decisions made so far have been based on reason.
There is reason. The reasons may not be public health.
Hospitals and such need licensed people to work. You can get CME at places other than conferences for much cheaper.
 

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There is reason. The reasons may not be public health.
Hospitals and such need licensed people to work. You can get CME at places other than conferences for much cheaper.
Hospitals and healthcare orgs are not canceling most of these conferences, though. Organizers are. Additionally, I have just as much CME money available whether or not I get refunded for one conference. Heck, at this point I'm going to use it to buy a new laptop. Not sure how anyone is saving money here.
 
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