Anyone shocked by the number of unfilled surgery spots?

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Ok everyone...had an idea...

Not that I'm wishing anyone on this board to have to scramble. However, if anyone gets that e-mail on Monday saying they have to scramble, I wonder if they would be willing to post the PDF file that contains the listing of what surgery programs have spots open (ie. which programs have to scramble to fill).


It would be really interesting to see how many categorical slots are open before the scramlble is completed.


What do ya'll think.


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I hear applications are up 40% this year, and since the number of open categorical spots last year was half the number the year prior to last, I think there will be fewer than 40 open categorical spots.

I think Scutwork usually has the list of open spots out within a couple of days after Match Day.

Good luck to all the senior med students.
 
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I would tend to agree with pilot doc...I bet there may be zero spots open for those who go unmatched. That would really suck if someone didn't match because of a technical error or some other f-up in the system.

Anyone with any "pre-match jitters" worrying if they should have altered their ranks of X, Y, or Z programs?

We will have to get a "matched at..." thread going on Thursday after folks begin to sober up or prior to the onset of intoxication.

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Good thread going here...there were about 11 categorical slots left open last year (but from what I have heard) that was AFTER the scramble.

I'm interested in knowing who has vacanies BEFORE the scramble is completed. The only way to find this information out would be for someone who has access to this information via NRMP (ie someone who is scrambling...doesn't even have to be in the field of surgery). If they would look at the PDF file NRMP sends Monday afternoon with the vacancies...it would show the surgery programs with spots open before the scramble session is completed.


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cash,
no offense, but people who get the you did not match email are probably not going to be interested in feeding your gossip tooth. most likely, they'll be sweating their ass off and worrying where and if they can find a spot to become a surgeon. take it easy and good luck to everybody out there. match day is approaching and the anxiety is making everything a little bit hot in here, so be cool!
 
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Hello all,

I believe this includes all Cat + Prelim. If you look at last year numbers of total unmatched, it is 369 with this years reported number being 377. This is obviously prelim + cat. Easy reference on Scutwork for last years numbers.

http://www.scutwork.com/cgi-bin/links/page.cgi?page=MatchReg03&d=1

This years numbers can only be seen by registered NRMP candidates at this time in the report section.

Congratulations to all that matched and good luck on Thursday!

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Originally posted by IBS
Hello all,

I believe this includes all Cat + Prelim. If you look at last year numbers of total unmatched, it is 369 with this years reported number being 377.

where did you find 377? (for 2004), post the website.

here is an official spreadsheet from nrmp for 1997-2003, it has cat/prelim broken down.

http://www.nrmp.org/res_match/tables/adt2003.pdf

Originally posted by Crimson&Clover
the website i'm referring to for this year's numbers is your login page on the residency match system. go to 'my reports' and then click on regional match statistics...

could you post them here? not all of us are seniors yet.. :b
 
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This is the 2004 Regional Match Results

General Surg PGY-1 (Cat + Prelim)

Western Region (Offered/Not filled) 307/65
Central Region (Offered/Not filled) 427/53
Southern Region (Offered/Not filled) 561/107
Northeastern Region (Offered/Not filled) 823/152
Total (Offered/Not filled) 2118/377


Ortho PGY-1

Western Region (Offered/Not filled) 79/0
Central Region (Offered/Not filled) 162/1
Southern Region (Offered/Not filled) 158/0
Northeastern Region (Offered/Not filled) 190/0
Total (Offered/Not filled) 589/1


Plastics PGY-1

Western Region (Offered/Not filled) 11/0
Central Region (Offered/Not filled) 25/1
Southern Region (Offered/Not filled) 14/0
Northeastern Region (Offered/Not filled) 28/0
Total (Offered/Not filled) 78/1



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How is possible that 18% (377 of 2118) of all surgery spots went unfilled? I thought this was supposed to be a turn around year for surgery with the limits on resident work hours.

Uhhhhh....cause life after residency sucks too. Maybe when the attendings are working less than 80 hours a week more people will go into it.
 

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The majority of those will be Prelim spots - most, if they had a choice, choose an IM prelim year over a Surgical one (for obvious reasons). Overall, this is still less than the last couple of years (when the total numbers > 400). So no reason to be "shocked".
 
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Which programs in Wisconsin and Arizona? Anybody know?

Just out of curiousity...and not to down those in the scramble as i truly feel for you...what does/did your email say if you didn't match?

Best of luck to the warriors who are scrambling today. Best wishes to the matched as we are nearing the end of this long and drawn-out process!
 

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One spot at University of Arizona

One spot at Gunderseon-Luteran in Wisconsin



Lots of unfilled info can be found at usmle.net (click on "Match") discussion board.


Or you can check out residencyforum.com


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The only shock I found was when I was told only 2 spots were open for those unfortunate souls who didn't match. I knew surgery applications were up this year...but to only have 2 spots to choose from if you didn't match was a little shocking.

Otherwise, the prelim numbers don't mean anything as far as shock factor goes. As other posts have mentioned, if you have to do a prelim year for another specialty, who wants to work their a$$ off for a year when they aren't even going into that specialty...unless you are like some of the bright radiology residents I have seen who did surgery prelim and learned a great deal about it and are a great asset.
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I heard from a program director that there were 1400 AMG applicants for 950 Categorical positions (up from 1200 last year). This seems reasonable given how many of my classmates didn't match g.surg and had to scramble.

Rumor has it that even the 375 g.surg prelim slots were gone in the first hour of scramble. Definitely have a "there but for the grace of God go I" sympathy for the g.surg scramble this year. Hope everyone figured something out to their satisfaction.
 
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