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Most courses with the AMCAS Course Type listed below are not included in AMCAS GPA calculations. Instead, the total hours for each of these categories are reported to medical schools under the heading Supplemental Hours.
 Pass/Fail – Pass
 Pass/Fail – Fail
 Advanced Placement (AP) Credit
 College Level Examination Program (CLEP)
 Other Test Credit
https://aamc-orange.global.ssl.fastly.net/production/media/filer_public/54/3c/543c5531-29ce-4049-b278-2edb3998a216/amcas_instruction_manual.pdf

It says on Page 8.

Is this true? Is it true that AP grades(points) and P/F courses aren't factored into your GPA?
 

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Yup, aced all my AP classes and now my GPA is garbage. I'd recommend running start.
 
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Yup, aced all my AP classes and now my GPA is garbage. I'd recommend running start.
I see. Thank god. Wonder what my GPA would be if they factored int AP scores.
What about Pass/Fail or Pass/No Pass courses? Do they not factored in as well?
 

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I see. Thank god. Wonder what my GPA would be if they factored int AP scores.
What about Pass/Fail or Pass/No Pass courses? Do they not factored in as well?
I don't believe P/F courses are counted either.
 
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I don't believe P/F courses are counted either.
Yay. So what I get in college is only thing that matters (as long as I get As in letter grading system too).

This gives me a hope :)
 
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Thank you for your help, I really appreciate it :)
 

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Yay. So what I get in college is only thing that matters (as long as I get As in letter grading system too).

This gives me a hope :)
As long as your college only uses them for placement and not for grades.
 
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As long as your college only uses them for placement and not for grades.
Alrighty. I think I got this. Didn't use any AP scores for placement. I just retook them!
Thank you very much :D
 

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As long as your college only uses them for placement and not for grades.
Some colleges do assign grades for various AP passing scores. But if yours did, the grades conferred would be on your college transcript and you'd know about it.
 
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Some colleges do assign grades for various AP passing scores. But if yours did, the grades conferred would be on your college transcript and you'd know about it.
Or a simpler way to say it:
If you have a letter grade (A,B, C, D, F) for any course on your official transcript, it will be factored into AMCAS GPA
If you do not have a letter grade for any course on your official transcript, it will not factored in AMCAS GPA

Whatever score you may have earned on an AP exam, Course Placement, etc, is not, repeat not, used towards AMCAS GPA
Only the grades on the official transcripts will be used towards GPA calculation
 
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This would be damning for me. My school let me order whatever exams that I said I would self study for. I took a lot of random AP tests that I had no business taking. I was told that it was cheaper and that you only need like a 50% to pass. The tests are percentile based. It makes it way too easy. I passed them all with at least 3s, If they took into account all AP scores, my GPA would go from great to really bad.
 

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This would be damning for me. My school let me order whatever exams that I said I would self study for. I took a lot of random AP tests that I had no business taking. I was told that it was cheaper and that you only need like a 50% to pass. The tests are percentile based. It makes it way too easy. I passed them all with at least 3s, If they took into account all AP scores, my GPA would go from great to really bad.
The other Achilles heel in AP exams is how many medical schools do not accept them for complete fulfillment of prerequisite courses. Many of these medical schools have the policy of taking the AP intro class of filling the coursework for that level but not the credit in the subject area. By that I mean, they will accept AP Bio in lieu of General Bio but require that you take additional credits of upper level biology. So if you had passed AP Chem thinking you were done with the subject, you may have to take some advanced course like Physical Chem to get the course credits. With AP, you do get credits on your transcript. However, courses that you place out by exam may not show up on a transcript but simply allow to skip a class and go into a higher level course are actually more problematic as some schools do not accept substitutes courses.
 
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The other Achilles heel in AP exams is how many medical schools do not accept them for complete fulfillment of prerequisite courses. Many of these medical schools have the policy of taking the AP intro class of filling the coursework for that level but not the credit in the subject area. By that I mean, they will accept AP Bio in lieu of General Bio but require that you take additional credits of upper level biology. So if you had passed AP Chem thinking you were done with the subject, you may have to take some advanced course like Physical Chem to get the course credits. With AP, you do get credits on your transcript. However, courses that you place out by exam may not show up on a transcript but simply allow to skip a class and go into a higher level course are actually more problematic as some schools do not accept substitutes courses.
Do you know if skipping physics 1 but acing physics 2 fulfills the requirements for schools that ask for an upper level replacement for classes that you've APd out of? Also same concept for English, would an AP credit in comp 1 plus a technical writing course suffice?
 

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Do you know if skipping physics 1 but acing physics 2 fulfills the requirements for schools that ask for an upper level replacement for classes that you've APd out of? Also same concept for English, would an AP credit in comp 1 plus a technical writing course suffice?
1) each school has there own specific requirements and you each on individually on the MSAR and their own website
2) most schools require a year of physics so the second term would not be sufficient
3) depends on how each school's writing requirement is listing. some specifically a year of English and will not accept substitutes
 

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This would be damning for me. My school let me order whatever exams that I said I would self study for. I took a lot of random AP tests that I had no business taking. I was told that it was cheaper and that you only need like a 50% to pass. The tests are percentile based. It makes it way too easy. I passed them all with at least 3s, If they took into account all AP scores, my GPA would go from great to really bad.
I think this is the reason many undergrads don't give credit for a specific course if you get a 3 or a 4, my school doesn't. You just get miscellaneous credit that helped towards graduation and/or fulfills a gen-ed. 5's get the shaft though by getting course credit without an option to retake. Need physics for medschool? Take 5 upper-level math courses as pre-reqs for upper-level physics classes.
 
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I think this is the reason many undergrads don't give credit for a specific course if you get a 3 or a 4, my school doesn't. You just get miscellaneous credit that helped towards graduation and/or fulfills a gen-ed. 5's get the shaft though by getting course credit without an option to retake. Need physics for medschool? Take 5 upper-level math courses as pre-reqs for upper-level physics classes.
Gave up on the math. I got to diffeQ and linear algebra my freshman year but got a B in diffeQ so I'm staying away from that stuff. HW like hell.
 

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Gave up on the math. I got to diffeQ and linear algebra my freshman year but got a B in diffeQ so I'm staying away from that stuff. HW like hell.
a C in Calc 2 my first semester was enough for me... lol