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if you apply only for categorical GS will they consider you also for the nondesignated prelim spots or are prelims offered only to those who specifically apply for prelim?
 

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if you apply only for categorical GS will they consider you also for the nondesignated prelim spots or are prelims offered only to those who specifically apply for prelim?
You have to specifically apply prelim. This is true in any field that offers prelim spots - GS, IM, and OB/gyn.
 
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does it cost extra to apply to prelim at the same program if you're also applying for categorical there?also is there any disadvantages to applying for both prelim and categorical at the same program? as in are they more likely to offer you the prelim rather than the categorical interview if you're a borderline candidate for that program since you applied to prelim.
 

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does it cost extra to apply to prelim at the same program if you're also applying for categorical there?
The fees you pay are based on the number of programs you apply to - since Prelim and Categorical are TWO tracks, you will pay for both (within the defined range). See here: http://www.aamc.org/students/eras/feesbilling/start.htm

Also is there any disadvantages to applying for both prelim and categorical at the same program? as in are they more likely to offer you the prelim rather than the categorical interview if you're a borderline candidate for that program since you applied to prelim.
They aren't offering you anything unless you are trying to get a spot outside of the match. Whether you match Prelim or Categorical depends on how you and the program rank each other. If you would be interested in either position, rank both...if you would prefer Prelim at Program X over Categorical at Program Y, rank X first...and so on.
 
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sorry a bit confused....do you mean if you apply for categorical and prelim at the same program then it's the same fee, or that they are each counted separately and thus costs extra to apply for both?
 

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sorry a bit confused....do you mean if you apply for categorical and prelim at the same program then it's the same fee, or that they are each counted separately and thus costs extra to apply for both?

Number of Programs per Specialty/Accrediting Body (ACGME or AOA) ERAS Fees
Up to 10 $65
11-20 $8 each
21-30 $15 each
31 or more $25 each
 

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sorry a bit confused....do you mean if you apply for categorical and prelim at the same program then it's the same fee, or that they are each counted separately and thus costs extra to apply for both?
It cost the same last year to apply to both categorical and prelim gen surg programs i.e you paid the same fee for either/both tracks in the same program. I do hope that has not been changed this year!
 

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Sorry could u enlighten me. What happens after completion of say a preliminary gen surg internship? Say u are still interested in Gen Surg, do u apply for a Categorical spot in a Gen Surg Residency? Does that mean u start over as an intern again even though you are a PGY-2?
 

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Sorry could u enlighten me. What happens after completion of say a preliminary gen surg internship? Say u are still interested in Gen Surg, do u apply for a Categorical spot in a Gen Surg Residency? Does that mean u start over as an intern again even though you are a PGY-2?
If you are unable to match into Categorical Gen Surg and take a Prelim position, you need to reapply for the match for a Categorical position. Sometimes you might be offered a position outside of the match but to maximize your chances you need to reapply for the match.

In regards to whether or not you have to repeat your intern year, you may have to. It is up to the program whether or not to ask you to do so and whether or not they have a PGY-2 position to give.