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MD Applying without Research? CA resident high GPA

Discussion in 'What Are My Chances?' started by ConcretePete, May 18, 2014.

  1. ConcretePete


    May 18, 2014
    Hey SDN,

    It is almost guaranteed that I will have absolutely no research experience on my application come 2015 when I apply. I don't want to go to a research school, or become a medical researcher, so is this a problem?

    Ending sophomore year I'll have a high GPA ( estimated 3.85c, 3.95s) and my MCAT practice exams are showing scores between 36-38. I typically never choke or struggle on actual exams (or under exam like pressure) so I feel that a 35 will be my lowest expected score, with a 38 being the highest.

    I also have some decent (~100 hours, 1 year) experience in homeless volunteering, and about ~150 hours combined of clinical volunteering and shadowing (which will continue through next year).

    In the end it seems my application will come down to a high GPA/MCAT, with some volunteering and clinical experience. Is this enough to get me into an MD school as a Californian resident?

    Also, white middle class male I am!

    Edit: My sophomore year has been mostly upper division science courses; the only non-A I've gotten in science was from a lower division biology professor who tanked the class without a curve.
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  3. EMDO2018

    EMDO2018 Banned Banned

    Oct 8, 2013
    I don't know
    When people with 3.8+ and 38 MCAT are worried about getting into their state schools, that state needs more schools.
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  4. mct2762

    mct2762 Banned Banned Account on Hold 2+ Year Member

    Dec 19, 2012
    From what I've been told, research isn't required. I was told by schools that it doesn't hurt to have it, but is definitely not a necessity. Wont make or break you
  5. phunky

    phunky 2+ Year Member

    Nov 21, 2012
    It's enough to make you competitive. Definitely try to beef up your ECs though, particularly your clinical experience if you don't plan on doing any research.
  6. LostinLift

    LostinLift 2+ Year Member

    Jan 24, 2013
    It is better to check all the boxes, but if you don't you had better be more than proficient in other areas. Do you have work experience? Do you have clinical experience (other than volunteer/shadow)? Do you have leadership experience? Team experience?

    Numbers are not everything. They tend to matter more to research heavy top schools... so keep that in mind.
  7. ConcretePete


    May 18, 2014
    By the time I will apply I will have worked for 3 summers at the same place, with a strong letter of recommendation coming from them. This work is service based (think catering), and not medical in any way.

    Otherwise no, no other clinical experience, leadership experience, or team experience (outside my volunteer group and work, which are both team activities).
  8. justAstudent

    justAstudent 5+ Year Member

    Apr 12, 2011
    I think you'll be fine as long as the rest of your ECs are good.
  9. OneTwoThreeFour

    OneTwoThreeFour 5+ Year Member

    Oct 10, 2012
    Curious: why is there no chance at research experience? No labs of any kind are looking for free labor?
  10. ConcretePete


    May 18, 2014
    The majority of the research availability is in engineering fields (which I have no coursework in at all, Biochemistry major); also the majority of the professors I know are lecturers only and don't do research. Just as well three professors I has this year and freshmen year retired from academia.

    I would rather just study study study and participate in my volunteering activities than research anyway; I'm not interested in medical research as I don't see myself enjoying life in a lab. I'm interested in medicine for the direct effect I can have on somebody's life; I get a taste of that feeling volunteering with the homeless and its worth living for.
  11. Narmerguy

    Narmerguy Moderator Emeritus 7+ Year Member

    Jul 14, 2007
    moving to wamc.
  12. ConcretePete


    May 18, 2014
    Anyone else want to weigh in?

    I understand I'm going for the cookie cutter premed application but I honestly don't care about getting into a top tier school. Any US-MD program will make me happy. I'm going to try and do some clinical volunteering this summer.

    Also, do you think grafting plants is something worth putting on my application? I just took it up as a hobby and have documentation (pictures) of my progress, both of failures and successes. The grafting is mostly flowers but I have a small lemon tree I'm planning to attempt a citrus graft with.

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