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my girl is utterly confused. she asked me to ask sdn for advice. i personally don't know what to tell her. she wants to withdraw her app, she is bummed. she has applied to schools and is complete at about 20 schools. should she withdraw her app? she wants to go md route. she panicked big time on the sections were she received a 5. i told her to just see what happens but i've been no help. she applied as a disadvantage applicant so i figured she would at least get looked at, but an mcat of 20 is not going to cut it, i really don't want to give her bad advice.

Anyone?
 
If she's complete, then she has already paid the fees, so why withdraw now? She might as well just wait and see if the money is already spent...
 
Don't withdraw!

What will she lose if she goes all the way? She may even get a few interviews and even an acceptance- if she applied to the right schools.
 
StreetGenius said:
my girl is utterly confused. she asked me to ask sdn for advice. i personally don't know what to tell her. she wants to withdraw her app, she is bummed. she has applied to schools and is complete at about 20 schools. should she withdraw her app? she wants to go md route. she panicked big time on the sections were she received a 5. i told her to just see what happens but i've been no help. she applied as a disadvantage applicant so i figured she would at least get looked at, but an mcat of 20 is not going to cut it, i really don't want to give her bad advice.

Anyone?

If she's already paid for secondaries, there's not any point to withdrawing. But, if she's done the MCAT twice and is stuck at 20, it's probably time to start thinking Caribbean, osteopathic, pharmacy, or something else. If she's an under-represented minority (not a disadvantaged Asian or white), she might have some hope if she applied very broadly, though I believe the URM MCAT average is still in the mid 20s, so it would still require a lot of luck or a very impressive gpa and personality/activities package to get in M.D.
 
WatchingWaiting said:
If she's already paid for secondaries, there's not any point to withdrawing. But, if she's done the MCAT twice and is stuck at 20, it's probably time to start thinking Caribbean, osteopathic, pharmacy, or something else. If she's an under-represented minority (not a disadvantaged Asian or white), she might have some hope if she applied very broadly, though I believe the URM MCAT average is still in the mid 20s, so it would still require a lot of luck or a very impressive gpa and personality/activities package to get in M.D.


that is what i thought except for the alternatives pathways. i wouldn't mention this to her, it is to sensitive, I am just trying to support her, but I have midterms, and i told her to apply to less competitive schools, but we got into it and she thought i was trying to say she was not going to get in. It is stressing me out because I also have to start studying for the mcat in november.

DAmn...
 
StreetGenius said:
that is what i thought except for the alternatives pathways. i wouldn't mention this to her, it is to sensitive, I am just trying to support her, but I have midterms, and i told her to apply to less competitive schools, but we got into it and she thought i was trying to say she was not going to get in. It is stressing me out because I also have to start studying for the mcat in november.

DAmn...

Oh man, I wish you (and your girl) the best of luck with this. From my experience, it can get rough with both people in the relationship taking the MCAT/applying to medical school. It adds a whole other level of tension that wasn't there before. Who gets the better MCAT? Who gets more interviews? Comments get taken the wrong way, **** escalates, you know the drill...

Mad props to you for being a caring and supportive guy, though. If it doesn't work out for her, maybe y'all can try studying for the April MCAT together and she can apply again. Seriously, misery loves company. My girlfriend and I would basically go to work/class, study, eat dinner, study, then relax a bit, repeat. You don't even have to be studying the same stuff, since different people learn differently. But just being in the same room helps, and you can always ask questions when they come up.

Best of luck to the both of you. You can PM me if you want.
 
I love how everyone thinks a 20 is going to cut it at an osteopathic school. The chances are it isn't. The averages of osteopathic schools are around 24-27. Granted, some let in people with 20's but its not a joke to get into these schools. Just my opinion.
 
USArmyDoc said:
I love how everyone thinks a 20 is going to cut it at an osteopathic school. The chances are it isn't. The averages of osteopathic schools are around 24-27. Granted, some let in people with 20's but its not a joke to get into these schools. Just my opinion.


I agree, a 20 on the MCAT is low by MD AND DO standards. She'll get more interviews at DO schools with the score, but acceptances will be tough to come by. I wouldn't rule out waitlists for DO schools though. Unless she is adamant about sticking to MD, ask her to begin the process for AACOMAS, she still has plenty of time to bang out several DO secondaries. I realize you're treading on egg-shells regarding her feelings, but I think its worth the arguments and slammed-doors to ask her to start with DO apps - its in her best interest i think.

Also, definitely dont withdraw from the schools already applied to, money has been spent, so ride it out, you never know, the disadvantaged status may help a little.
 
I'm sure it matters what kind of disadvantage you're talking about. I know very little about this, so I'm curious as to what people have discovered by declaring themselves "disadvantaged."
 
Time for her to seriously think if there's a good reason for not being able to hit mid-20s at least. If there is not a good reason, then think if she'll be able to pass her boards, another standardized test (fair correlation w/ mcat scores, but not complete correlation). If she can't do that, there's no point even going to carribean schools.

Now if there's a good reason she can't get decent MCAT scores, then start addressing that and either retake the MCATs and apply both allo and osteo. or just apply to a foreign school now.
 
Apply to foreign schools. Unless she can bring it up, it will be difficult to get into any schools.
 
She's screwed. If the MCAT is an indicator of success in medical school (which it is...), then she has little chance of passing through.
 
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