are we expected to remember and understand everything??

[gc1983]

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as an IM resident or intern will you reach a point where you can remember and understand everything...? take pressure volume graphs in the heart-i can understand them but couple of months down the line i cant remember how to draw, explain them without refreshing in a text book....does it become more consolidated with time??

its a weird frustration..

 

[superdood68]

i am pretty sure that attendings can't even draw out a heart pressure volume curves

 

[2112_rush]

On your next visit to the doctor ask them to draw the brachial plexus. I think 99% wouldn't be able to...and it doesn't matter. You forget most of the stuff you learn in the first two years (so I've been told), but it is replaced by more practical information...like how to treat a DM patient, rather than what's the name of the blood vessel that supplies the pancreas.

 

[YouDontKnowJack]

couple months?

i can't even remember things for 2 weeks.

i'm doomed. oh noes

 

[Uncle_Tbag]

On your next visit to the doctor ask them to draw the brachial plexus. I think 99% wouldn't be able to...and it doesn't matter. You forget most of the stuff you learn in the first two years (so I've been told), but it is replaced by more practical information...like how to treat a DM patient, rather than what's the name of the blood vessel that supplies the pancreas.

2112_Rush, rock on!! 😀

 

[2112_rush]

2112_Rush, rock on!! 😀

Always great to find another RUSH fan

 

[fun8stuff]

couple months?

i can't even remember things for 2 weeks.

i'm doomed. oh noes

dude, after long days at school i am lucky if i remember how to get home... i learn something new, and something old goes right out the door

 

[Chief Resident]

No you're not expected to remember everything. But I am sometimes amazed at how much some doctors do remember. We have an attending who is like an encylopedia of medicine because it's as if he knows everything you can ask him. He can map out detailed things like the entire Krebs cycle off the top of his head!

 

[orientedtoself]

but can he draw the brachial plexus?

 

[allendo]

No you're not expected to remember everything. But I am sometimes amazed at how much some doctors do remember. We have an attending who is like an encylopedia of medicine because it's as if he knows everything you can ask him. He can map out detailed things like the entire Krebs cycle off the top of his head!

Wow the whole krebs cycle, they must teach that in M.D. schools only!

 

[orientedtoself]

I thought you two were done with that thread.

 

[Chief Resident]

allendo is just trying to bait people (trolling).

 

[Psycho Doctor]

On your next visit to the doctor ask them to draw the brachial plexus. I think 99% wouldn't be able to...and it doesn't matter.

 

[Psycho Doctor]

couple months?

i can't even remember things for 2 weeks.

i'm doomed. oh noes

i can't even remember things to get thru my next exam 🙁

 

[Law2Doc]

On your next visit to the doctor ask them to draw the brachial plexus. I think 99% wouldn't be able to...and it doesn't matter.

I suspect if your next visit was to see a neurologist they would be able to. A radiologist probably would to, as would orthopods and surgeons who work on the upper limbs and would understandably prefer not to cut through these nerves. Others, perhaps not...
(Your point is correct, but the example you gave is way too major a structure.)

 

[Ypo.]

I suspect if your next visit was to see a neurologist they would be able to. A radiologist probably would to, as would orthopods and surgeons who work on the upper limbs and would understandably prefer not to cut through these nerves. Others, perhaps not...
(Your point is correct, but the example you gave is way too major a structure.)

Why would a radiologist? 😕

I just got done with the brachial plexus and x-rays, they didn't show us any of the brachial plexus.

Well, I'd really like to forget a lot of the things I've learned already, but not before I take USMLE 1.

 

[Law2Doc]

Why would a radiologist? 😕

I just got done with the brachial plexus and x-rays, they didn't show us any of the brachial plexus.

Well, I'd really like to forget a lot of the things I've learned already, but not before I take USMLE 1.

I'm guessing that in an MRI of the shoulder these would show up. (See here for 3D MRI of brachial plexus -- http://www.tosinfo.com/mri/images/img_gallery.html) x rays wouldn't be the right modality for nerves I would think.

 

[powermd]

as an IM resident or intern will you reach a point where you can remember and understand everything...? take pressure volume graphs in the heart-i can understand them but couple of months down the line i cant remember how to draw, explain them without refreshing in a text book....does it become more consolidated with time??

its a weird frustration..

The short answer is - YES. You will understand pressure-volume curves as a fourth-year med student rotating through the ICU. The details of the basic sciences are more or less important depending on your specialty, as an IM intern and anesthesiology resident, physiology, neuroscience, and pharmacology are particularly useful to me, but I really don't use more than the basics of anatomy, biochem, path, micro/immuno, and gentetics. Don't be intimidated by the volume of information- for the most part, the basics don't change, and you'll be exposed to them over, and over, and over, and over again. The first three years of med school present a tremendous amount of new information, but after that it becomes repetative very quickly. Just do the best you can for you in class exams, study hard for step 1, and have fun. The next big step will be internship, when you will learn how to translate all that book knowledge into clinical skill, and learn how to work the hospital system.

 

[redgrover]

Haha! Just spoke with a doctor the other day, and he essentially told me that they were wasting our time with biochem.

His basic analysis: you aren't doing MD/PhD: you shouldn't be doing biochem.

Unfortunatley, Step I and my med school do not agree with this assessment. 🙁