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Are you friggin kidding me?!?! UCs are just losing my respect...

Discussion in 'Pre-Medical - MD' started by Scooby Doo, Jan 17, 2002.

  1. Scooby Doo

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    Jeez,

    I am so sick of the UC's. I can't believe it!

    I basically turned in everything for the UC's waaaayyyy back the very first day that they notified us they had an alternative application. I think this was sometime back in September or early October. I got the secondary a month after that and filled it out in a couple days and sent all my stuff off. So today I just got the email saying my application is complete. Of course it's friggin complete!!! It's been there for over 3 months! What the hell have they been doing there!!!!!

    I know so many peeps on here have gotten UCI interviews and I know my app was complete one of the first days possible but I guess it wasn't...grrrr....I guess I won't be staying in state!!!
     
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    If it's any consellation, I completed all my apps for them in September and received the following results:
    UCSF: rejection without secondary (and I both worked there and volunteered there for several years)
    UC Davis: secondary, then rejection
    UCI and UCSD: still haven't decided if they want to give me a secondary (I won't be holding my breath)

    Only good news (actually great news), I got invited for an interview at UCLA, so you never know. I think getting in the UCs is a total crapshoot.
     
  4. megkudos

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    Being a silly east coast gal I was wondering,

    I read all these posts on SDN about the UC schools and like *everyone* has problems hearing from them, getting interviewed/accepted ect....

    Shouldn't you guys have an advantage cuz you are in state or something? A lot of you are obviously very bright people with acceptances to other (out of state) med schools. It doesn't make any sense to me cuz there are a bunch of them. I guess it's just that I feel bad cuz you guys shouldn't have such a problem sticking around in you home :) What's wrong with these people???? If I could go out and smack them all for you scooby I would....
     
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    California state residents constitute the largest state applicant pool in the US, years ago overtaking the former champions, NY state residents. All but three of the California medical schools are state schools. One of them, Stanford, has a small class of about 90. Another, Loma Linda, prefers Seventh Day Adventists, although its class size is large at about 160. The University of Southern California also has a class of 160, but there too a large number are Californians. Too competitive. Besides a large total applicant pool, California has a very competitive pool; Californians can be found in medical schools across the country, even in state medical schools.
     
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    California state residents constitute the largest state applicant pool in the US, years ago overtaking the former champions, NY state residents. All but three of the California medical schools are state schools. One of them, Stanford, has a small class of about 90. Another, Loma Linda, prefers Seventh Day Adventists, although its class size is large at about 160. The University of Southern California also has a class of 160, but there too a large number are Californians. Too competitive. Besides a large total applicant pool, California has a very competitive pool; Californians can be found in medical schools across the country, even in state medical schools.
     
  7. jmejia1

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    Got that right; even at Michigan State which they're confined to save 80% of the seats for in-staters, I saw a good California representation while interviewing there, both in the medical students and interviewees.
     
  8. Scooby Doo

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  9. Scooby Doo

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    Oh yea!

    I just noticed!!!

    IRVINE CAN'T SPELL THEIR DAMN NAME RIGHT!!!!!!

    In the email subject they have:

    "UC Irivne; application complete"

    JEEZ!

    What's wrong with these people!!

    [​IMG]
     
  10. Procrastinator

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    Irvine's website is the least informative site I've ever been to. There is more info about the school on outside websites such as review.com and usnews.com. What ****** is in charge of that site? They also said that they would have a status check, which they do not. Check it out for yourselves: <a href="http://www.com.uci.edu/" target="_blank">http://www.com.uci.edu/</a>
    Let me know if any of you can extract more admissions info from that site. I just have a hard time believing that a medschool could have a web site that bad.
     
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    It f$ckin' sucks that SC is acting just like a UC w/how fast they're processing their applicants. It sounds like people on this thread are a fairly consistent phenotype as far as getting assed out:

    Rejected w/out 2dary
    UCSF, UCD

    Nothing after 2dary:
    Stanford
    UCI
    UCLA
    USC


    <img src="graemlins/pity.gif" border="0" alt="[Pity]" />
     
  12. Rhiana

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    This whole process is a crapshoot. I have finished my secondaries from
    UCLA
    UCSD
    UCI
    UCSF
    UCD
    But not a single interview from anyone. What's up with that. My only consolation is that Scoob is a Raider fan.
    He gets closer to being my perfect man more and more with each post. <img src="graemlins/lovey.gif" border="0" alt="[Lovey]" />
     
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    I got secondaries from all the California schools, some faster then others. As of now:

    UCI - interviewed 11/8, put on hold
    UCLA - completed secondary
    UC Davis - completed secondary
    UCSD - interview scheduled
    UCSF - completed secondary, on hold for interview
    Stanford - rejected post secondary
    USC - interview scheduled

    I don't know anyone that has gotten consistent results at all the UC's. It's like they draw names out of a hat to see who gets to interview.
     
  15. mango-a-go-go

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    I'm bumping this up only because I'm still pissed! The whole UC thing is definitely sooo random. I never even got a 2ndry from Davis! My friend also got rejected with no secondary even though he interviewed at every other UC...darn Californian schools :mad:
     
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    Mango,

    Similar experience here. Applied to the UCs and Stanford. Received secondaries from everyone except Davis *flatout rejection*. Interviews at UCSF and UCI, hold for interview at UCSD, no invite or reject from UCLA, and postsecondary rejection from Stanford. Very strange process indeed.

    I think I remember you as being accepted to aecom? me too.
     
  17. matthew0126

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    come on guys. dont be pissed at the uc's because you didn't hear back from them. that's not fair

    the u.c. system is awesome and we are lucky to have it (just talk to those suny people)
     
  18. Scooby Doo

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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by matthew0126:
    <strong>come on guys. dont be pissed at the uc's because you didn't hear back from them. that's not fair

    the u.c. system is awesome and we are lucky to have it (just talk to those suny people)</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Does it make sense though????

    No! I mean, I am interviewing at most places I applied to, yet all the UC's rejected me post secondary...except UCI. I paid for four years at a UC School and they can't even have the decency to interview me? Bull$hit!
     
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    scooby, don't take this the wrong way, and i certainly don't mean it in the wrong way, but you know the uc's are selective

    maybe they just don't like you as much as the other schools that you interviewed at like you &lt;shrug&gt; each school has different critera, who knows what the uc's like?

    btw, congrats for columbia!! :D
     
  20. mango-a-go-go

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    No, I am going to have to stick by my original statement that UC admissions is really random.
    Souljah, yes, I did get admitted to Einstein. Do you think you will be going? For me, it depends on what I hear back from NYU (although I don't think it looks to good right now since it was my first interview) and Vanderbilt.
     
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    Here's the way it works...you have 8 UCs absolutely pumping out the pre-meds like water and only 5 of them to pick 'em up. It's going to end up in major pool of rejections. Very sad. Merced should open up a med school.
     
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    I completely understand the UC's are selective. I knew this going into the process...I just don't understand how me and many other applicants who are my friends can get interviews (and or get in) to other top schools yet get completely screwed with the UC's!!

    I have to think the UC's have some idea about where else you have interviewed...

    If Merced put up a med school, it would not be very good...to say the least :)

    I know:
    UC Davis - Big on Volunteer work + Primary Care oriented
    Stanford - Big on Research. Don't want PC physicians
    UCSF - Likes Non Trad. or "out of country" experiences
    UCLA - I just don't know....
    UCSD - HUGE on Research. Want to make many academic physicians
    UCI - Takes what the others leave behind (no offense UCI :) )
     
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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Scooby Doo:
    <strong>I completely understand the UC's are selective. I knew this going into the process...I just don't understand how me and many other applicants who are my friends can get interviews (and or get in) to other top schools yet get completely screwed with the UC's!!

    I have to think the UC's have some idea about where else you have interviewed...

    If Merced put up a med school, it would not be very good...to say the least :)

    I know:
    UC Davis - Big on Volunteer work + Primary Care oriented
    Stanford - Big on Research. Don't want PC physicians
    UCSF - Likes Non Trad. or "out of country" experiences
    UCLA - I just don't know....
    UCSF - HUGE on Research. Want to make many academic physicians
    UCI - Takes what the others leave behind (no offense UCI :) )</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hey, where's UCSD? :( Hehe I guess one of those UCSF's is UCSD. Just goes to show how much we love UCSF. We dream in UCSF :)
     
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    Oops..my bad..I fixed it now...
     
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    heh, scoobydoo

    to finish your list, UCLA -- loves u.r.m.'s

    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Scooby Doo:
    <strong>I completely understand the UC's are selective. I knew this going into the process...I just don't understand how me and many other applicants who are my friends can get interviews (and or get in) to other top schools yet get completely screwed with the UC's!!

    I have to think the UC's have some idea about where else you have interviewed...

    If Merced put up a med school, it would not be very good...to say the least :)

    I know:
    UC Davis - Big on Volunteer work + Primary Care oriented
    Stanford - Big on Research. Don't want PC physicians
    UCSF - Likes Non Trad. or "out of country" experiences
    UCLA - I just don't know....
    UCSD - HUGE on Research. Want to make many academic physicians
    UCI - Takes what the others leave behind (no offense UCI :) )</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">
     
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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by matthew0126:
    <strong>heh, scoobydoo

    to finish your list, UCLA -- loves u.r.m.'s

    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Scooby Doo:
    <strong>I completely understand the UC's are selective. I knew this going into the process...I just don't understand how me and many other applicants who are my friends can get interviews (and or get in) to other top schools yet get completely screwed with the UC's!!

    I have to think the UC's have some idea about where else you have interviewed...

    If Merced put up a med school, it would not be very good...to say the least :)

    I know:
    UC Davis - Big on Volunteer work + Primary Care oriented
    Stanford - Big on Research. Don't want PC physicians
    UCSF - Likes Non Trad. or "out of country" experiences
    UCLA - I just don't know....
    UCSD - HUGE on Research. Want to make many academic physicians
    UCI - Takes what the others leave behind (no offense UCI :) )</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"></strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">My ass they love URMs. I haven't even recieved a secondary from them and I'm a "URM". I've been granted interviews at many other schools, yet nothing from UCLA. It may appear they love URMs because of the 24 students accepted to Drew; they do their first two years at UCLA; however, the number of URMs accepted directly to UCLA is nothing impressive. UCSF enrolls many more.
     
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    hi jmejia1,

    i'm sorry you are getting no love from ucla, but the statistics back me up

    Race Applied Accepted % Accepted Ave. GPA Ave. MCAT
    Asian/White 4607 185 4.0% 3.80 11.6
    Black/Hispanic 443 42 9.5% 3.32 9.5
    Other 194 14 7.2% 3.63 10.0

    i'm not passing judgement here on that, whether that is good or bad, just showing you that ucla does in fact love u.r.m.'s

    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by jmejia1:
    <strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by matthew0126:
    <strong>heh, scoobydoo

    to finish your list, UCLA -- loves u.r.m.'s

    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Scooby Doo:
    <strong>I completely understand the UC's are selective. I knew this going into the process...I just don't understand how me and many other applicants who are my friends can get interviews (and or get in) to other top schools yet get completely screwed with the UC's!!

    I have to think the UC's have some idea about where else you have interviewed...

    If Merced put up a med school, it would not be very good...to say the least :)

    I know:
    UC Davis - Big on Volunteer work + Primary Care oriented
    Stanford - Big on Research. Don't want PC physicians
    UCSF - Likes Non Trad. or "out of country" experiences
    UCLA - I just don't know....
    UCSD - HUGE on Research. Want to make many academic physicians
    UCI - Takes what the others leave behind (no offense UCI :) )</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"></strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">My ass they love URMs. I haven't even recieved a secondary from them and I'm a "URM". I've been granted interviews at many other schools, yet nothing from UCLA. It may appear they love URMs because of the 24 students accepted to Drew; they do their first two years at UCLA; however, the number of URMs accepted directly to UCLA is nothing impressive. UCSF enrolls many more.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">
     
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    Ha ha Scoooby--"out-of country" experiences. I think they like 'out of this planet' experiences.
    :D :D
    UC-Irvine has been recently referred as a 'shady' instituion? Can anyone elaborate on this?
    I think Davis is MCAT-happy more so than UCSF and UCLA.
     
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    i'm not sure about that... Davis rejected me without interview, while my mcat was fairly high. ucsf accepted me though -- so you're right about the uc's being a crapshoot
     
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    Matthew I'm 99% sure that those percentages have UCLA/Drew added to them. Drew is mostly URM and when it is included with UCLA's stats it presents a total misrepresentation of the facts.
     
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    i just wanted to say that schools look for different things. Scooby was on the right track saying how the UCs each have different personalities. Basically, you can't expect, just cause you got a 'top 10' interview, to get an interview at every lower ranked school. Schools look for different things, and it bugs me when people call all the work that adcoms put in to making good decisions a 'crapshoot.' This is a process where schools that think you would be good there pick you, and then you pick one of those. Unless you want to turn this into a solely numbers driven process (all CA premeds with 38+ mcat go to SF, 36-38 LA, 34-36 SD, etc) then some people with lower scores are gonna beat out people with higher scores. Its very tough to distinguish youself as a CA resident at the UCs, there are so many of us! It's especially tough if you're coming from a UC undergrad (they get so many good apps and don't want to take a class that's entirely UC ugrad).

    anyways, good luck to those still waiting to hear.
     
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