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Are you going CRAZY like me? HELP!!!

Discussion in 'Pre-Medical - MD' started by zealous, Apr 25, 2002.

  1. zealous

    zealous Senior Member 7+ Year Member

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    I am going crazy!!! I'm so stressed over this application process taking so long. I'm waiting to hear from two schools and they're my last hope! I have so many emotions right now that I don't know whether to cry, scream or punch something. Please let me know if you're feeling this way too. I'm really glad that SDN exists because I need someone to talk to about this. Nothing could be better than talking about it with other people who are going through the same thing. Maybe this should be in the lounge but Oh Well!! I'm too tired to care. I'm emotionally drained. For all of you out there who are stressed and afraid to let your friends or family know how much this is affecting you, I encourage you to post up and get it out, you'll feel a lot better. It will help you feel like you can actually breathe. Hey, maybe I should be a psychologist instead!!! Hang in there everyone!!!
     
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  3. analu

    analu Senior Member 7+ Year Member

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    What has helped me (so far) is thinking "worst-case scenario." Even though I might not make it in this year, I'm healthy, have friends and family who support me, and I'll persist until I succeed. Don't give up, zealous... night's darkest before the dawn.

    aloha
     
  4. zealous

    zealous Senior Member 7+ Year Member

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    nights darkest before the dawn...I like that. I'll try to keep that in mind. It's weird but the other day I kind of broke down into tears over this and all of the sudden I felt this calm wash over me and I felt so peaceful, like I KNEW everything was going to be okay...it was like someone hugged me and made me feel really warm. Thanks for the advice.
     
  5. Doctora Foxy

    Doctora Foxy Meow 7+ Year Member

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    I agree with analu. Also, just try to make a plan for every path. If you have a set idea, it will make you feel better. :) It's good to get it out, so I'm sure posting this thread was the first step.

    I have never felt so utterly consumed by anything before--this process can take a lot out of you. So just be strong and hang in there :)
     
  6. irafleur

    irafleur Junior Member 7+ Year Member

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    ok, that sounds nice and warm but you really need to be honest. This is a monster of a contest, no gods, no spirits, if you have the GPA, the MCATs and the recs... ad so on it does not matter if you are an A$$HOOOOLe you will get in, even if you drive over old ladies hate children and only want money, this is america, numbers count. Likewise, you can be a saint, but if you are not a competitive player no amount of prayer, promises, and good deads will get you in. It happens all time, and why? because there are VERY GOOD applicants out there, many of them, and VERY FEW spots for them all, that is what is going on. Only the cream wins in this game, nomatter how sweet the next layer down. The american pie can be divide only into somany peices, only the best, not the nicest, get a place at the table. AND by the wasy, there is life beyond medicine, in fact there is a whole world outthere, that is equally or more fascinating, get your head out of your arse and see that if this game fails, you can try and try until you get old, or, YOU WILL HAVE TO SOULD SEARCH, try and remember what youy though about life 4 years ago, get a job, make money, and do interesting things, travel, and become a healthy person again because in 25 years, you will be almost 50. you are really FKING around with an identity crisis...careful, being happy, which I hope is your goal, is somethying that will not be any easier as an over-worked, over stressed, underpaid indebt doctor in a shifty insurance country, therapy huh? how bout geschtalt therapy
     
  7. Asclepius

    Asclepius 1K Member 10+ Year Member

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    Thanks, irafleur, that was comforting. You, personally, might be narrowing down the applicant pool. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />
     
  8. zealous

    zealous Senior Member 7+ Year Member

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    WOW, I guess Irafleur is one of those people who runs over old ladies and hates children. I guess we won't have to worry about any COMPETITION from him/her since it's obvious that he/she can't spell. That sure was bold for someone who just registered two days ago. And he/she thinks I'd make a lousy doctor, I'd hate to be the person who goes to see someone who's so uncompassionate. Hey, Irafleur, you're a real winner.
     
  9. analu

    analu Senior Member 7+ Year Member

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    To each his own...just the fact that you made it onto two waitlists validates your strength as an applicant.

    Zealous, irafleur never said you'd make a lousy doctor...I think his/her point was that everyone needs to look at themselves as objectively as possible in order to decide if pursuing medicine as a career is worth the personal sacrifices which go along with it AND if your application is strong enough to get you into school. Hearing how much you're suffering shows me how much this all means to you. For you, I think the answer to both questions above is "YES."
     
  10. PelicanMan

    PelicanMan Senior Member 7+ Year Member

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    Just do what I do.

    Be happy that you have two arms and legs, that you can walk, see, hear.

    I am always grateful, as long as you are grateful for what you have you look at your situation in a different light.

    I thought I would get in like 2 months ago. But life is long and I know that I will become a doctor one day. Just have trust in yourself. NOBODY CAN STOP YOU FROM BEING A DOCTOR EXCEPT YOURSELF.

    DON'T WORRY, BE HAPPY. :D :D
     
  11. lady in red

    lady in red Senior Member 7+ Year Member

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    Life is not fair AT ALL. I see so many arrogant, self-absorbed med students and residents every day, and think: how the hell could they hide it at the interview? One guy (a surg. resident) told me flat out that all he cares about now is money and early retirement so that he can do what he really wants (be a sculptor), and that "by the time you get to where I am, all you care about is cash. Talking to patients is a waste ot time".
    Irafleur is right in the sense that in America 'man eats man', and that only numbers count. You can be the most compassionate person in the world, but the one with highest MCAT will always be a more 'competitive' applicant-which does not neccesarily translate into a better physician.
    One day, I was doing an experiment at a common equipment room, when a med student (a freaking MS1, for god's sake) came up to me and announced that he was a "Medical Student from Stanford", promptly displayed his tag and requested that I please finish what I am doing ASAP, so he does not waste HIS precious time. Please....
    No wonder there is hostility and distrust towards doctors. There is so much 'classism' in medicine, that common people are often afraid to ask their doctors the simplest questions with the fear of being taken as ignorant or stupid. Medicine as a profession needs to get off its high horse and realize that it is doing service to people, not that other way around...
     
  12. patient

    patient Member 10+ Year Member

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    Lady In Red..

    Your ideas are very powerfull and although I donot know you, you should represent the perfect medical student.

    My grades are good enough to get me in med school but I am not yet in. However, I really wonder why the grades are the most important factors that determine who will be a good med. doctor . I wish that some other tests were done like a class conducted in a hopsital setting or all interviews were conducted by experienced pschologists.

    Well I am not saying because I am not yet in Med school but one thing I am pretty sure is that I will get in, be it this year or the next . I am still waiting to hear from three schools after interviews in late march.-
     
  13. Diogenes

    Diogenes Succat 7+ Year Member

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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by lady in red:
    <strong>One day, I was doing an experiment at a common equipment room, when a med student (a freaking MS1, for god's sake) came up to me and announced that he was a "Medical Student from Stanford", promptly displayed his tag and requested that I please finish what I am doing ASAP, so he does not waste HIS precious time. Please....
    </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I don't want to get Stanford people pissed at me, but I know a bunch of people that work in a hospital where Stanford med students do rotations, and they universally hate Stanford med students. The word is that they are pushier, more arrogant, and less willing to learn from experienced "subordinates" like nurses and technicians than students from other med schools. That's just what I heard -- I'm sure others have heard the opposite.
     
  14. Meizy

    Meizy Member 7+ Year Member

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    Hey Zealous,
    Hang in there.
    I know how hard it is. Since I am living at home this year my whole family has been going through the daily ups and downs with me. Lately, its mostly been down. I just finished scohol this past march so I don't have a diversion either. For me I feel like maybe its just me. After 13 interviews and getting 3 rejections and 9 waitlists must show that there is something wrong with my interviews. NO, I don't think numbers matter that much. And I am glad that they don't even though that means that I am still waiting and waiting. I just didn't grow up in the american culture of self-promotion. I just couldn't betray myself and make myself seem what I wasn't in my interviews. Silly me huh? I have faith that I will be in med school next year but I don't take it for granted anymore.

    wow, i can't believe I said as much as I did. I hope only the best for you also.

    PM me when you just need someone to listen.
     
  15. Alli Cat

    Alli Cat Flygirl 7+ Year Member

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    I'm applying this summer.

    At first I thought getting to the interview would be the tough part, but that after that, everything would be OK. I'm an honest person, I'm easy to talk to, and I'm reasonably articulate. I figured beating out the other applicants would be a cinch, since I'm not the typical obliviously rude, self-centered, backstabbing premed I've met at UC Berkeley. (They aren't ALL bad, but a lot really are...)

    But, like you, I didn't grow up "promoting myself." I don't feel comfortable saying "I did this, I did that, I'm so great." I don't expect any reward for what I've done. It's obvious from talking to my classmates that some people can weave self-aggrandizing snippets into a seemingly inocuous conversation. I think these are the people who do well in interviews.
     
  16. HanSolo

    HanSolo Member 7+ Year Member

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    I dont know whether you guys out there share this sentiment, but this is truly how I felt. After going through a number of interviews, I felt like I am a cheap ***** (not that there is anything wrong with being in that old profession <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> ), who is willing to sell myself to the highest "bidder." i wonder if some of you feel the same way I feel. Anyway..I digress from the topic of this thread...but I need to put this out to see whether it's only me.
     
  17. UCSFallthway

    UCSFallthway Junior Member 7+ Year Member

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    Hey lady in red,

    About what you were saying on "classism", during one of my interviews I had this amazing conversation with my interviewer on "medical cynicism" and the transition between compassionate medical students truly going into the medical profession for Helping people, and the residents/doctors who stop caring and regard patients are just more "work". We discussed things like doctors being overworked/overstressed, etc...i think its unfortunate that it happens, and hopefully we can prevent this transition from occuring in Us
     

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