ATLS without animal lab?

[trkd]

Anyone know if you can get ATLS certified without participating in the animal lab. On part of the letter I got with my ATLS manual it said that animal lab is required for certification. As someone who is quite oppposed to such an activity for moral reasons, I imagine that there have been others in the history of ATLS certification who have been as well. Does anyone know if you can do an alternative activity, etc? I was planning on calling the ATLS director tomorrow morning and speaking with him about this.

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[la gringa]

we did not have an animal lab as part of our ATLS... all of the practice procedures were done on dummies. our residency had a separate cadaver and animal procedure lab, but they were definitely not a part of ATLS.

 

[trkd]

we did not have an animal lab as part of our ATLS... all of the practice procedures were done on dummies. our residency had a separate cadaver and animal procedure lab, but they were definitely not a part of ATLS.

That's good to know that it is not done everywhere so it must not be a nationwide requirement. Maybe that will help me. If they say no way, maybe I will try to find a different ATLS course to do (though probably difficult to do with limited time. Thanks la gringa.

 

[turtle md]

We did not do an animal lab either. We used dummies as well. Or maybe I shouldn't call our surgery colleagues by such names...

 

[DrQuinn]

we didn't do animal labs either. Just models and dummies.

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[GeneralVeers]

we didn't do animal labs either. Just models and dummies.

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I would only participate in an animal lab if we got to have a barbeque afterwards.

 

[lucky_deadman]

I would only participate in an animal lab if we got to have a barbeque afterwards.

Why not during? It always worked for Gross Lab in Med School.

 

[USCDiver]

Why not during? It always worked for Gross Lab in Med School.

Because you can't do a thoracotomy on a pig that's already been split and roasted on a barbeque all day long.

 

[lucky_deadman]

Because you can't do a thoracotomy on a pig that's already been split and roasted on a barbeque all day long.

Wasn't referring to using the same pig. You can stop by the nearest mom and pop BBQ joint for some sustinence to allow you to get through the experience. Then you toss Wilbur on the spit.

 

[roja]

No animal labs here either. Dummies and such.

 

[Jeff698]

I would only participate in an animal lab if we got to have a barbeque afterwards.

Oh, you are SO going to fit in well down here in Texas.

Take care,
Jeff

 

[GeneralVeers]

Oh, you are SO going to fit in well down here in Texas.

Take care,
Jeff

I can tell you, I fit in a whole lot better here than in California.

 

[USCDiver]

Wasn't referring to using the same pig. You can stop by the nearest mom and pop BBQ joint for some sustinence to allow you to get through the experience. Then you toss Wilbur on the spit.

Yeah, I know you weren't. But GeneralVeers was.

It always worked for Gross Lab in Med School.

You put your cadaver on a spit and barbequed it in Med School?! That's Gross!

 

[GeneralVeers]

Yeah, I know you weren't. But GeneralVeers was.



You put your cadaver on a spit and barbequed it in Med School?! That's Gross!

Why let perfectly good protein go to waste?