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That's right, I got hot enough to flash boil all the water in the Gulf today while dealing with the friendly pediatricians at my school. I walk around at about 211.5 so it doesn't take much to push me over to boiling.
At ~11:45 this morning a 7yr old girl presents to the pediatrics clinic I'm rotating through. Her upper lip, left face, and lower left eyelid are swollen. The dad has taken her to two ER's, both of whom made incorrect diagnosis. The second ER referred the girl to us for treatment of a preseptal cellulitis.
Like I said, she gets to our clinic about 11:45. I'm already gone to lunch. When I get back at 1:00pm the attending is beside herself with agnst. When I enter the doctor's room the peds attending is on the phone with a peds ID attending discussing appropriate management of an abscessed tooth which looks "horrible", "involves the eye", and has "perforated the sinus". A resident is arranging for admission, CT, blood cultures, lab work, and IV antibiotics.
I'm beginning to piece the story together by this time and want to see the kid. A second attending noticed me and knew that I was both an OMFS resident and a med student and tells me to look at the kid. I see this girl, noticed she is afebrile, polite, and in good spirits. Her upper lip is moderately swollen, her left canine space and lower lid are mildly swollen. She is able to fully open her eyes and mouth. Pus is expressible from #F sulcus.
Slam dunk, it's a simple abscessed tooth with associated cellulitis. Extract the tooth and place on po PenVK.
Oh no my friends. Despite my best efforts (including completing an OMFS consult) this pt is "toxic" and admitted for IV abx, head CT with and without, blood cultures, and labs. I told the first attending that the case was being overtreated, the kid did not need admission, and did not need to be irradiated like a Chernobyl cockroach. She brushed me off, said that the ID people disagreed (they haven't even seen the pt!), and that OMFS would get involved later. The second attending later told me he was willing to following my recommendations but couldn't argue with the first lady.
So, I'm pissed b/c a seven year old girl is spending the night in a hospital for nothing. EVERY treatment she is receiving from peds is uneccessary. OMSRES saw her at 7:00pm, took the teeth out, and did and I&D. This girl was denied appropriate care for over 7 hours due to a foolish pediatrician! I'm at about 211.9 just thinking about it now.
Do you ever notice primary care doctors treat everything out of fear? A kid vomits twice and they might be a new onset diabetic in DKA. A girl has an abscessed tooth for one day? Damn, her sinus is perforated and she's going to die without a CT, IV abx, and blood cultures. I almost walked out of clinic today. At least they reminded my why primary care docs drive me up the wall.
At ~11:45 this morning a 7yr old girl presents to the pediatrics clinic I'm rotating through. Her upper lip, left face, and lower left eyelid are swollen. The dad has taken her to two ER's, both of whom made incorrect diagnosis. The second ER referred the girl to us for treatment of a preseptal cellulitis.
Like I said, she gets to our clinic about 11:45. I'm already gone to lunch. When I get back at 1:00pm the attending is beside herself with agnst. When I enter the doctor's room the peds attending is on the phone with a peds ID attending discussing appropriate management of an abscessed tooth which looks "horrible", "involves the eye", and has "perforated the sinus". A resident is arranging for admission, CT, blood cultures, lab work, and IV antibiotics.
I'm beginning to piece the story together by this time and want to see the kid. A second attending noticed me and knew that I was both an OMFS resident and a med student and tells me to look at the kid. I see this girl, noticed she is afebrile, polite, and in good spirits. Her upper lip is moderately swollen, her left canine space and lower lid are mildly swollen. She is able to fully open her eyes and mouth. Pus is expressible from #F sulcus.
Slam dunk, it's a simple abscessed tooth with associated cellulitis. Extract the tooth and place on po PenVK.
Oh no my friends. Despite my best efforts (including completing an OMFS consult) this pt is "toxic" and admitted for IV abx, head CT with and without, blood cultures, and labs. I told the first attending that the case was being overtreated, the kid did not need admission, and did not need to be irradiated like a Chernobyl cockroach. She brushed me off, said that the ID people disagreed (they haven't even seen the pt!), and that OMFS would get involved later. The second attending later told me he was willing to following my recommendations but couldn't argue with the first lady.
So, I'm pissed b/c a seven year old girl is spending the night in a hospital for nothing. EVERY treatment she is receiving from peds is uneccessary. OMSRES saw her at 7:00pm, took the teeth out, and did and I&D. This girl was denied appropriate care for over 7 hours due to a foolish pediatrician! I'm at about 211.9 just thinking about it now.
Do you ever notice primary care doctors treat everything out of fear? A kid vomits twice and they might be a new onset diabetic in DKA. A girl has an abscessed tooth for one day? Damn, her sinus is perforated and she's going to die without a CT, IV abx, and blood cultures. I almost walked out of clinic today. At least they reminded my why primary care docs drive me up the wall.