Attn: Overachieving pre-meds...

[ekimsurfer]

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You guys all need to relax.

I see these threads about not getting into Harvard, Mayo, Stanford, etc.

"OH noe!!! i have to go to a state school or lesser private school!"

"How does my 36pqrst and 10000 hours of research compare??!"

"Will i be able to keep up with the billions of hours of reading?!"

I want all you guys and girls to take some deep breaths and realize that you will most likely end up doing very well for yourselves. It's not a personal dis from Harvard when your 36t gets rejected pre-interview.

You are up against some of the brightest people in the nation. Don't set yourself up to be let down. Do the best you can and take whatever comes your way with an open mind. Remember, there are worse things in life than getting rejected from your number one school because the 11 in Verbal was too low. Be grateful you are even in a position to apply to medical school and realize that many times you are the maker of your own destiny, not the school (i.e. just because you go to Harvard doesn't mean your 256 board is better than anyone elses).

So in summary, relax and welcome new challenges... don't bitch about not getting into your number one school (which incidently happens to be ranked #2 nationally and accepts 43 new students each year) or not breaking 99th percentile on the MCAT.

 

[Supernova]

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[bbas]

Great advice! 👍

 

[dhoonlee]

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[dopaminophile]

People have concerns, whether it is about getting into Harvard or getting into an IMG. This is the correct forum to be voicing those concerns and discussing the process of medical school application. Your advice (well-intentioned as it may be) is basically tantamount to imposing your sensibilities and priorities onto others. Some of what you say is plain wrong (a top board score from Harvard will open more doors than from other places) and your tone sounds patronizing. Remember, one of the functions of this board is to provide a welcome environment for any pre-med question, no matter how anal and whiney. I would rather address each annoying question individually rather than give a general warning characterizing legitimate questions as wrong. Some people set very high standards for themselves; this does not make them bitchy or crazy. Why not simply ignore those threads that you find annoying?

ditto. i find this forum to be the ideal place to vent. This is a necessarily stressful process and this is a healthy place to work through concerns. Quit judging other people's aspirations for a second and you might learn something useful or perhaps something about yourself.

peace

-dope-

 

[stoic]

see, that's funny, b/c i find this the perfect forum to try and impart some persepctive into the masses of applicants/premeds who are freaking out. this whole med school thing is a crazy rollercoaster i don't think it does any good for anyone when people get so wound up about one "C" or not getting a secondary from harvard or being rejected from one school or whatever.

So I say relax dudes and dudettes. The sun will rise tomorrow and you'll make it in. It might take an extra year, but if you want it and work hard enough, it can happen.

Good luck everyone. And have a beer. I suggest New Belgium "sunshine wheat beer".

peace,
dave

 

[~~premed82~~]

Excellent advise, I totally agree!

 

[ekimsurfer]

People have concerns, whether it is about getting into Harvard or getting into an IMG. This is the correct forum to be voicing those concerns and discussing the process of medical school application. Your advice (well-intentioned as it may be) is basically tantamount to imposing your sensibilities and priorities onto others. Some of what you say is plain wrong (a top board score from Harvard will open more doors than from other places) and your tone sounds patronizing. Remember, one of the functions of this board is to provide a welcome environment for any pre-med question, no matter how anal and whiney. I would rather address each annoying question individually rather than give a general warning characterizing legitimate questions as wrong. Some people set very high standards for themselves; this does not make them bitchy or crazy. Why not simply ignore those threads that you find annoying?

you are a perfect example of what is wrong here.

so many of these these students today have been the top of their class, outstanding sons and daughters, etc. And now they are ready to embark on this quest for medical school and they believe that they will continue this trend of being number 1... the problem is that there can only be one number 1 which leaves about one hundred other of these previous students to fend for spots 2 through 101.

the point of my post was to basically say that people need to keep things in perspective. so many of these 'gunners' have turned into drones that whine about every little thing that doesn't go their way. no one really has sympathy for the fact that they got a 34 instead of a 36... no one really cares that they have to settle for their state school instead of Emore or Duke. It's not the end of the world and you need to let them realize this, not go on about how deprived they are.

you probably are a gunner yourself and realize that always whining has left you without meaningful relationships. i understand... and i am sorry.

BUT since you think a 250 from Harvard is more impressive than a 250 from (insert state school), i think you've been studying too long and your brain has stopped working properly.

 

[stoic]

remember: don't panic.

 

[dhoonlee]

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[ekimsurfer]

ditto. i find this forum to be the ideal place to vent. This is a necessarily stressful process and this is a healthy place to work through concerns. Quit judging other people's aspirations for a second and you might learn something useful or perhaps something about yourself.

peace

-dope-

are you so narrow minded that you missed my point?

my point is to relax and just let whatever happens happen. most of these people have tried their best and done very well for themselves.

BUT it is not a travesty when someone scores in "only" the 96th percentile or ends up at the number 23rd ranked school instead of vandy or stanford. These students know only success and you have to let them know that med school is going to change their outlook. For many people, their first B or C comes in medical school and they are devastated. In reality, if you tried your best, be happy and move on and learn from it... don't sit there and drink yourself into a stupor of depression.

all im saying is to stop sweating the small stuff. if you think what i said is wrong then go ahead and dismiss it, but it's the truth and these newbie med students need to learn to balance in order to get through school.

 

[ekimsurfer]

I will only address one point: it would have been easy for you to look through my past posts to see if I am the type of person who writes these so called "whiney posts" or if I'm actually one of the few who tries to calm people down and give advice. Instead you choose to make assumptions and look like a jack-ass.

The rest is your opinion and I'll respect it for what it is. Cheers.

well since in not all that concerned with what your outlook is, it doesn't really matter.

the fact is that too many incoming students feel that they are 'owed' something and always feel they deserve the best. and then whine when they are in a better situation than almost 99% of the national population.

you probably are a drone yourself and that's cool. just remember to take a few minutes of each day to relax and reflect on life.

 

[dopaminophile]

I see far more contempt and aggression in your posts than others. If you feel that people's goals are ill-founded, then all the better for you, as there'll be more room where your goals lie. But it's pointless, mean-spirited, and patronizing to come onto a support forum and criticize people that are talking about their stresses. If you can get through all of this without worrying, then congats. Try, though, to have some empathy for those of us who need to talk it through.

-dope-

 

[lnn2]

are you so narrow minded that you missed my point?

my point is to relax and just let whatever happens happen. most of these people have tried their best and done very well for themselves.

BUT it is not a travesty when someone scores in "only" the 96th percentile or ends up at the number 23rd ranked school instead of vandy or stanford. These students know only success and you have to let them know that med school is going to change their outlook. For many people, their first B or C comes in medical school and they are devastated. In reality, if you tried your best, be happy and move on and learn from it... don't sit there and drink yourself into a stupor of depression.

all im saying is to stop sweating the small stuff. if you think what i said is wrong then go ahead and dismiss it, but it's the truth and these newbie med students need to learn to balance in order to get through school.

Man, why are you wasting your time with these guys? They'll never learn, bunch of juveniles, maybe not even old enough to drink!

 

[ekimsurfer]

I see far more contempt and aggression in your posts than others. If you feel that people's goals are ill-founded, then all the better for you, as there'll be more room where your goals lie. But it's pointless, mean-spirited, and patronizing to come onto a support forum and criticize people that are talking about their stresses. If you can get through all of this without worrying, then congats. Try, though, to have some empathy for those of us who need to talk it through.

-dope-

the intent of my post was to half jokingly address the issue. if i did not get the point across then now you know why i'm a medical student rather than a writer.


and again, i did not say people's goals are ill-founded. obviously you have to set very high standards for yourself to be successful. my post was intended to let the children out there know, though, that there are worse things in life than ending up in only a state school and only scoring in the 96th percentile.

everyone here seems so out of touch with the rest of the world and i was just trying to let everyone know that it's ok to be a person who'se maybe not the greatest but still an excellent person.

geeze, you guys need to take a break and drink a beer or something

 

[chatterbox]

ekim,

I totally agree with you that people should not stress too much about whether they get into Harvard or their state school.. either way, you'll get the MD and that should be satisfaction enough. But you have to admit, your tone is pretty condescending, especially referring to us applicants as "children" .. so some people have high ambitions of getting into a top tier school... good for them, why try to make them feel bad about being disappointed about it if they don't get into their first choice!!!

 

[ellia08]

Let 'em stress.


Some people enjoy it and for the rest the worry is its own punishment.

Everyone has their own way of doing their thing, you know? They key is just to not let them stress YOU out.

(eg: I'm a high stress person. I like it. It makes me happy and gives me motivation. My premed friend "x" isnt. Both of us got into med school although it seems unlikely that we will persue the same path in medicine. We're still friends. Who is hurt by this? Some people just like to stew.)

 

[jhugti]

Don't set yourself up to be let down. Do the best you can and take whatever comes your way with an open mind.

I somehow doubt most people who achieve their dreams got there by "not setting themselves to be let down." Let me put it like this: feeling the pinch of diasappointment about say, Harvard, is a necessary consequence for someone who has worked towards the goal of gettign into Harvard. It's the same situation with any goal you work towards, academic or otherwise. If you aim to bench 250 but can only get up 230, do you think "Well 230 is still a lot- I should be happy as a clam" ? I can assure you that nobody who ever got to 250 thought that way.

Contentedness with falling short is hardly a trait we whould be striving for. Its sad how far we've come in this "everybody is a winner", "self esteem is the most important thing in life" world. Wake up and realize that high achievers have high standards. If this seems foreign to you, maybe the problem is exactly that you're content with whatever life throws your way, not that others' standards are warped.

Why not be satisfied with graduating high school? Lots of people have trouble with that. Or getting a college degree? Most people struggle there. Its all a matter of standards. Just because someone draws the line of acceptable performance higher than you doesn't mean they are overachievers and you are correctly grounded in reality. This is not so different than the high school dropoutwho thinks people applying to medical school have not a care in the world. After all, they have a college degree. "Why the fu*k are they getting worked up about getting into medical school? They can get a decent job as it is. What overachievers."

 

[jhugti]

plus, i really think the vast majority of people vent about this kind of stuff on SDN precisely because they know its inappropriate to do so in *real* life. SDN provides an easy way to air out the problems of the lucky. No different than rich people who compain about ridiculously high tax brackes. Are they stupid for doing so? Yes, and no.

Heart of hearts, I think both the rich people and the Harvard-rejects know they don't have it that rough compared to the general populace. In that time and place, however, their feelings are are strong as those with *real* problems closer to home.

 

[DieselPetrolGrl]

You guys all need to relax.

I see these threads about not getting into Harvard, Mayo, Stanford, etc.

"OH noe!!! i have to go to a state school or lesser private school!"

"How does my 36pqrst and 10000 hours of research compare??!"

"Will i be able to keep up with the billions of hours of reading?!"

I want all you guys and girls to take some deep breaths and realize that you will most likely end up doing very well for yourselves. It's not a personal dis from Harvard when your 36t gets rejected pre-interview.

You are up against some of the brightest people in the nation. Don't set yourself up to be let down. Do the best you can and take whatever comes your way with an open mind. Remember, there are worse things in life than getting rejected from your number one school because the 11 in Verbal was too low. Be grateful you are even in a position to apply to medical school and realize that many times you are the maker of your own destiny, not the school (i.e. just because you go to Harvard doesn't mean your 256 board is better than anyone elses).

So in summary, relax and welcome new challenges... don't bitch about not getting into your number one school (which incidently happens to be ranked #2 nationally and accepts 43 new students each year) or not breaking 99th percentile on the MCAT.

your a idiot most of dont care - its noobs that fret like ninnys
come to the lounge..you will like it..i promise 😉

 

[skoaner]

the problem is that there can only be one number 1

For us #1's it isn't much of a problem. Well, except you 2-102's are jelous.

 

[Blake]

* sits in a chair, eating popcorn *

 

[BigRedPingpong]

This is another one of those player hatin' threads.

Just do your thang and quit worrying about everyone else.

 

[Blake]

Don't hate the player, hate the game ! 👍