Hi, I was wondering about on the average, how many hours do you (medical students) generally sleep per night when you were in your first year? Just curious.
Hi, I was wondering about on the average, how many hours do you (medical students) generally sleep per night when you were in your first year? Just curious.
You will find that most of the stories you here of people sleeping 4 hrs a night and having to study from 4am-Mid everyday just to pass are tails told to scare premeds.
As much as you want. If you're studying enough that it's cutting into your sleep on a regular basis, you're studying too much.
went to bed at 2am (wife got home from work at 1:15, and I wanted to see her). got up at 11:30 today. Came to school and started studying. Until exam week, I can usually sleep as much as I want, but I usually feel guilty if I really sleep a ton. Plus, I try to keep on a similar sleep schedule as my wife.
They aren't "tails" (or even tales ).
Once I discovered that lecture wasn't necessary...ten?
1st year - about 7, somewhat efficient
2nd year - 6, sometimes 5, once a month 4
if you don't take anything extra (research, etc.) 8 nightly is very doable first year, and probably about 7 second year IF you stay efficient.
the best way to sum it up is the following:
people are what they are. the orthopedic and chest surgeons aren't sleeping 9 hrs a night and scraping by now; theyre getting high grades, lots of activities, and little sleep, just like the next ten years
the peds, IM, FP are foreshadowing their future "lighter" schedules by taking an easy road now
of course, some ortho's got in cuz daddy was director, and some extremely talented people go to peds because they love children, but i think the above is a pretty good generalization.
Trudat.
that's silly. what do you think the future derms and rad oncs are doing now, napping?
besides, there's plenty of time to go around. I get a good 8-9 of sleep a night, do quite well in class and have a good research project going. it's not like there aren't a LOT of hours in the day, and studying really shouldn't eat up more than 5 (at MOST) of them if you're efficient.
1st year - about 7, somewhat efficient
2nd year - 6, sometimes 5, once a month 4
if you don't take anything extra (research, etc.) 8 nightly is very doable first year, and probably about 7 second year IF you stay efficient.
the best way to sum it up is the following:
people are what they are. the orthopedic and chest surgeons aren't sleeping 9 hrs a night and scraping by now; theyre getting high grades, lots of activities, and little sleep, just like the next ten years
the peds, IM, FP are foreshadowing their future "lighter" schedules by taking an easy road now
of course, some ortho's got in cuz daddy was director, and some extremely talented people go to peds because they love children, but i think the above is a pretty good generalization.
Yes, naegleria brain, we've heard all about your drive to be the best and how all great people have the same drive. Maybe you can start a thread asking us about our work ethics when we were 4.
This is the biggest load of BS I've heard on SDN in a long time.
just because you fit into the generalization doesn't mean you have to fight it
trolls instigate; i contribute
once a hard worker, always a hard worker. this is true in the majority which, last i checked, means greater than 50%. same for slacker mentality.
that being said, people on this board yap all the time how theyll turn it around in clinical rotations and thats where theyll shine. the smarties were too booksmart and lacked people skills so theyll fail years 3 and 4. i've yet to see a live example of that.
the successful preclinicals tend to do well clinically years 3 and 4. the successful students get into great residencies and specialties.
i'm willing to bet you're a middle of the road type of person, which is why you don't agree. and the fact that youre arguing this means i'm dead wrong, or its true and you dont want to accept it. if i was dead wrong, you would have given your specific example, so i'm going to say your going into a middle-of-the-road type specialty. not ortho, but probably not FP either.
i just watched house and am feeling all diagnostician-y.
either way, stop feeding people this mentality that slackers become orthopods and step 1 > 270 becomes rural ambulatory care workers. the exceptions are so few that if your putting all your eggs in being that one, you'll likely come out disappointed. don't fight me when you know this is true, try to explain this to others
slackers at ucsf neurosurgery who don't cut the cheese get thrown into the dumpster, whereas the overly ambitious hard working doctor in rural peds will be doing quite well, regardless.
This is the biggest load of BS I've heard on SDN in a long time.
trolls instigate; i contribute
once a hard worker, always a hard worker. this is true in the majority which, last i checked, means greater than 50%. same for slacker mentality.
that being said, people on this board yap all the time how theyll turn it around in clinical rotations and thats where theyll shine. the smarties were too booksmart and lacked people skills so theyll fail years 3 and 4. i've yet to see a live example of that.
the successful preclinicals tend to do well clinically years 3 and 4. the successful students get into great residencies and specialties.
i'm willing to bet you're a middle of the road type of person, which is why you don't agree. and the fact that youre arguing this means i'm dead wrong, or its true and you dont want to accept it. if i was dead wrong, you would have given your specific example, so i'm going to say your going into a middle-of-the-road type specialty. not ortho, but probably not FP either.
i just watched house and am feeling all diagnostician-y.
either way, stop feeding people this mentality that slackers become orthopods and step 1 > 270 becomes rural ambulatory care workers. the exceptions are so few that if your putting all your eggs in being that one, you'll likely come out disappointed. don't fight me when you know this is true, try to explain this to others
slackers at ucsf neurosurgery who don't cut the cheese get thrown into the dumpster, whereas the overly ambitious hard working doctor in rural peds will be doing quite well, regardless.
To the future MS1's don't worry most of the "scary" stories you have heard about med school are just fictional exaggerations.
Plus you gotta love the pelvis, where else can you find a sewage line running through an amusement park?
Thanks, you've just written my newest pick-up line.
12345. 3rd year has seen many a sleepless night on call , but there's no reason outside of your own doings and personal drama that you shouldn't be sleeping during 1st or 2nd year.I only get less than 8 if I'm doing something I want (staying up to watch a movie, going out with friends, on internet late). I like sleep and so I make it a priority. Third year and residency will probably prove difficult for that reason, but theres no reason not to sleep first and second year.
i don't have a wife or kids, and my focus is career, and am able to sacrifice sleep and "family time" for things like AMSA, research (at three different institutions, not including my own), etc. my personal philosophy is if you're not pushing yourself to the edge, you're just wasting time. most students however have a full plate with classes alone.
winter break i took a full week's call with orthopedics, starting the week before, going thru till its end in the new year. i logged 122 hrs each week.
...To quote Adam Sandler, "go on Proffessor, I'm here to learn.".