Bad things about Minnesota anes jobs?

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  1. neuroride

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    Hey, starting to look for jobs. I lived in Minnesota at one time and would like to look for a job there but I thought I remembered someone saying something about the taxes and/or something about restrictions in practice that detered from working in the state.
    Kinda vague but does anyone work in Min. and have some insight? Appreciate any help
     
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    The bad thing about Minnesota jobs is they're in

    Minnesota.:laugh:

    just kidding

    not a cold weather person tho
     
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    There is a REASON that there are jobs there....
     
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    :laugh::laugh:

    That's actually a plus for me. I'd love to move someplace a bit cooler... I don't think my wife will let me though. :cool:
     
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    MN is an opt-out state, and the only jobs I've known were strictly ACT 4:1 direction. The academic dept at the U has long been very week and is a sort of academic-private hybrid with a pretty marginal-performing residency. Aside form those things, I think from a pure PP angle, the guys I knew made good money and lots of vacation...
     
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    Mayo is a pretty reputable place that is in Minnesota.
     
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    A horrible ommission on my part. Mayo is the real deal, although it is quite rural.
     
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    Most of the jobs in the state are supervisory, including all in the Mpls/St Paul metro area and Rochester. I believe most jobs in Duluth and St Cloud are also supervisory. There may be some MD only stuff out on rural areas as well as CRNA only and (bleccccchhhhh) MD/CRNA working side by side (non-supervisory). I know that over the past few years, the job market in the twin cities metro are has been really tight with only a few positions available and numerous applicants. Groups are pretty picky right now. I love my job, but it came with a three year partnership track starting at about 1/3-1/4 what the partners made (and half the vacation), but jumping up significantly each year until partner. That is pretty standard in the Twin Cities, except for one group with a five year (!!!) track. I love living in Minnesota, and my job affords me enough cash and vacay to get away to warmer climes when I want. If your delicate girly man skin is too thin (Jet...;)) for the winters, it may not be for you. Otherwise pretty rad.
     
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    Born in Minnesota...very funny ending.
    So how's work at the University in your estimation?
    I understand they are looking for pedi-trained people for the Amplatz.
    Much in the way of lakefront living in the Twin Cities?
     
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    Lived in Wayzata for a while. I liked it. Boundary waters north of Duluth is an epic place to go camping and canoeing/portaging. :thumbup:
     
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    The winters are bitter cold. Don't think I'll ever move back.
     
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    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

    Nicely said
     
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    When were you in Wayzata? I grew up there. Class of 93.
     
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    I really don't know what it's like to work as an anesthesiologist at the U. When I was a med student there, the program was very small and not well respected in the institution. Like cchoukal said, it's a weird hybrid practice where most rooms are covered by a private group (Twin Cities Anesthesia) and some by "staff" anesthesiologists from the university. Both groups supervise (and ostensibly teach) residents and SRNAs as well as CRNAs. If I remember, they get paid pretty well for an academic institution and they weren't in house on call when I was a student. not a lot in the way of research there. since I left, they got a new chair and a number of new faculty, so it may be getting better.

    As far as Amplatz, it's a new deal. Again both TCA and the U faculty work there. I don't know exactly what the demand was for a third dedicated children's hospital in the twin cities, but I'm not sure there are a whole ton of peds cases to go around, especially to the "new guy on the block". Both Mpls childrens and St Paul childrens are decent places with a full range of services, so I'm not sure how Amplatz fits in. A few peeps from my med school class just started/will be starting soon there, so maybe I'll find out more over the next few months.

    As far as lakefront, minnesota (and esp mpls/SP) is the place to be. Although around the ritzy mpls lakes, property values and taxes are brutal. One of my partners pays ~$40,000/yr property taxes for his lakeshore pad, so be prepared to bring your checkbook.
     
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    $40k in taxes = goodbye woodie
     
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    Ha... small world. My fam moved there in '93... after graduation. I spent a couple of summers there. Lot's of fishing... love them northern pikes... they'll give you a nice little fight.

    My brother went to highschool at Wayzata high. Loved it.

    My entire fam is in Cali now... but I don't think it's for me. It has some economic issues that are pervasive.

    [​IMG]
     
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    :eek:

    Is that a $4 million house on a 10 acre lot, or a cabin with 50 feet of waterfront?
     
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    split the difference. it's a $2 million house on half an acre. still... DAMN!
     
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    Yeah, but it's probably on Lake of the Isles or something like that...

    Sevo, sounds like we just missed each other. I left in 93 and never came back. Nice place to be from, I guess, but it was never a love affair for me.
     

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