Best dental city ?

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I've done lil research on this topic but I can't dig up anything conclusive. Everyone says location is a everything. Does anyone know here what major city in the U.S. is the best city to live in for a virgin dentist fresh out of dental school?
 
I heard New York City is pretty good, there's few dental fraternities and differenct dental cliques you can join and you can always stop by to Columbia or NYU and ask those dental professors if you got questions on certain procedures.....And you never feel alone, there's a dentist in every block of street or more in some areas, so you never feel alone.

But if you want profitbility, you need to head to the rurual areas. There's little or no competition and dentists enjoys higher income. Got these info. from Dr.Jeff and Dental Economics (get free membership today):clap:
 
If you are a dentist, basically you can get a job in almost any state. No need to worry. Even busy places like LA or NY are always in need of a dentist.
 
bingpredent,
Thanks a lot for your input. It reminds me why I love dentistry. With dentistry there really is a sense of freedom, that you're destiny is in your own hands. I would have never thought of a city flooded w/dentists as (+) for your wallet but it does provide the opportunity for you to excel professionally at a much faster rate in both business & clinical competence by absorbing as much as possible from the veterans around you & seeing a greater variety of patients. In a small town w/tons of patients & no toothdoctas, the $$$ will come in quicker but the experience may not be richer. Personally, the cities I think can offer both $$$ & dental cliques are Las Vegas,NV (6000 new residents every month!), Portland, OR(dont have to pay state tax), & Seattle, WA(its clost to Oregon). Notice how all these 3 states have a common thread to them. They all have: only 1 dental school in state, above average socioeconomic pop(good insurance), & lots of patients in line waiting in line for me to graduate on 05/21/07. I was hoping other peeps in this big ol' great country of ours could share the 411 from the cities they're in but I guess secrecy is key to maintaining the greatest dental city. If everyone knew where it lies, it would lose its luster as anyone w/a handpiece & an IQ above 25 would migrate to it.
Thanks again for sharing the knowledge.
 
Where do you sign up for the dental economics and Dr. Jeff

thanks again
 
Atlanta is a great city for dentists. The Georgia Dental Association is strong, the area is underserved, and people in Atlanta, especially Northeast Atlanta and Buckhead have money to burn. Midtown Atlanta has a large gay population that seems to be quite well to do and wanting to look good. The rest of the state is in need of dentists too, we have counties without dentists. I am coming back here to practice as soon as I can.
 
GO WHERE YOU ACTUALLY WANT TO LIVE!!!!!! That will ultimately lead to you making more money, because you'll actually want to goto work and enjoy going to work. Remeber, for most dentists where you set up shop is where you'll live 'til you retire, its not like coorporate america where you'll likely get transferred a few times throughout your working years. Plus, one of the keys to getting a successful practice is getting involved and noticed in your community(the based referrals are word of mouth, not looked in the phone book), so you'll want to like living in that area.

In an informal survey I took while at the American Association of Orthodontist national meeting in Hawaii 2 weeks ago(As my wife (the ortho in the family) put it "why haven't you been to one of my national meetings before?" my answer "because it hasn't been in Hawaii since I've been married to you!"😀 ), everyone was doing very well and have seen gains in their practices in this weakend economy, and this survery was not just of orthos, but also GP's, Oral surgeons, a Pedo and an Endo(you'll find that there is a decent amount of dental to dental marriages out there). These folks practiced from coast to coast, North to South and from big city to "my town is so small that the nearest Walmart is 50 miles away". So, as a dentist, where ever you are you'll be making some cash.

The funniest thing I saw about dental compensation this week was actually in TIME Magazine this week. In their cover story about decreasing salaries, the dental reference they had listed the "dental" salary as having decreased from roughly 85k to 74K. As my partner and I discussed this over lunch today, the only rational explanation we could come up with for that stat is that they surveyed 1 dentist who was about 75 to 80 and works 1 day a week😀

Bottom line, take care of your happiness at home(where you'll spend WAY more hours per week), and you'll find that your professional career will prosper too.
 
Where do you sign up for the dental economics and Dr. Jeff

It appears that the wisdom of Dr. Jeff has now become a saleable commodity. Gonna PM him real quick and see if he needs an agent. :laugh:
 
DrJeff,
What do you think about wanting to live and work in NYC? Trying to establish yourself in a city of over 12 million with thousands of other dentists and specialists, meanwhile competing with especially NYUCD is really tough. Is it just best to buy into a practice? Being that I want to live here what do you think of commuting outside the city, ie southwest CT, and practice there?
Thanks for the tips, btw...they're highly appreciated.
 
SIgn me up! Thanks Dr. Jeff. As usual you provide a great service in mentoring all of us young bucks. It's good to know that the only dental salary that decreased is that of a 1 day a week 80 yr old dentist. It just seems that I hear this from all the 4th year dental students that location is EVERYTHING. In my personal experience, I'm supposed to be in an area with lots of toothdoctas but still have to make an appointment 1 month ahead of time cause they're booked. Although I do think that there are some cities that can make you & your pocket book happier than others. I'm no country boy & could never be content in Waco,Texas but Atlanta does sound real good to me(Buckhead="underserved" + "money to burn"). Gay or straight, a handpiece doesnt discrimintate. I got the idea for this thread cause of a book that listed the top 20 cities in the U.S. for doctors to live in. I think I'll look up somethng similar for dentists & post up the info.
 
Originally posted by PashaJ
DrJeff,
What do you think about wanting to live and work in NYC? Trying to establish yourself in a city of over 12 million with thousands of other dentists and specialists, meanwhile competing with especially NYUCD is really tough. Is it just best to buy into a practice? Being that I want to live here what do you think of commuting outside the city, ie southwest CT, and practice there?
Thanks for the tips, btw...they're highly appreciated.

If your happy in NYC, then great, go for it. You'll have ALOT of colleagues, some of whom will be friendlier than others for sure, and you'll likely have another office within a few blocks of yours(hey, even in the rural setting I'm in I have another dentist office about 200 feet from my front door!).

I definately feel though that its aot easier to go out and associate with someone right after school. Its easier to learn the business ropes that way, and its also nice to have someone to share the office with and bounce ideas off of, not to mention split some emergency coverage with. This will also let you walk into a situation where you'll likely have some patients to work on right off the bat. If after associating for a little while, you realize that you just can't work with any other Doc, but yourself, then you've learned something and will also have made a few dollars to help buy your own place. Worst comes to worst, you can even go out and work for one of the dental management frims for a year or 2(i.e. Aspen dental/Coastal dental/Gentle dental, etc), you'll learn to handle many patients at once is those situations. Just for a pay reference, today in the mail, both my wife and I received letters from Aspen Dental to come a work for them(they had about 10 cities all throughout the Northeast to choose from) a salaries/compensation packages between 100,000 and 200,000 per year. The money will be out there for you when you graduate, just find the location where you'll be happy.
 
PennDiddy, I think you misinterpret me. I was simply trying to convey the notion that there's high competition among dentists in NYC. For a fresh dentist, the only probable way of making out in the city is to become an associate in a successful practice. But due to competition, you have real good if you were to open your own practice.

As for rural areas, I read an article in dental economics
" In Florida, my home state, there are 18 entire counties that have five or fewer dentists ... and three that have none! In the past two years, 14 counties have had a net loss in dentists, while urban or large population centers have experienced an increase in dentist numbers. In discussing this issue with my colleagues at American Dental Sales, the same problem of finding dentists for rural America seems to exist throughout the country." -Hy Smith, MBA

Most new dentists these days finds living in city/suburb area to be alot more attractive. Personally, I've never seen a dentist over 50 in NYC.

A awesome source everyone need to read is dental economics. http://de.pennnet.com/home.cfm
go to left and click special features, then click issue archive. There's you'll be able to search keywords from all previous articles. All you need is your email to sign up.

:clap:
 
Bingpredent,
I just got registered with Dental Economics & you're absolutely right, it is awesome. I searched the archives under "Hy Smith". I would highly recommend this all of you. Just click on bing's link.
Thanks a lot bingpredent, thats what this profession is about, people helping people.
 
yup, I got lots of help from people myself. 🙂
 
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