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Better chance at a competitive residency: From a DO school or the Caribbean?

Discussion in 'General Residency Issues' started by dmitrinyr, Mar 18, 2004.

  1. dmitrinyr

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    I was wondering whether I can have the same opportunity to battle for a competitive residency (allopathic residency) (derm, anesthesiology, plastic surgery as well as other surgery specialities, opthalmology, etc.) given that I would have a competitive score on USMLE step 1, good grades, a publication or two, good recommendations, etc. if I were to do these things at NYCOM or at St. George's University in Grenada. I have heard varying opinions regarding this issue and would very much appreciate opinions.

    Thanks.

    dmitri
     
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    This topic has been beaten to death, resuscitated, decapitated, decimated, eradicated, resurrected, repaired, crushed, chewed up, been spit out, and bounced back for another round of vicious, slashing, hammering "discussion" almost more times than you can count.

    Search for this topic, and you'll get a "wealth" of information.

    In a nutshell, you're close to being behind the 8-ball for residencies like derm or plastics no matter where you're from. At the same time, though, that's the 'instant karma'. Many people do fellowships in what they want, or research beforehand, so, eventually, they get into practice in the field they want.
     
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    Why not just look at the previous match lists from both schools and then decide?
     
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    In anesthesiology, NYCOM-26 and SGU-5
    In EM, NYCOM-16 and SGU-19
    In orthopedic surgery, NYCOM-1 and SGU-1
    In PM&R, NYCOM-8 and SGU-2
    In general surgery, NYCOM-7 and SGU-43
    In neurosurgery, NYCOM-2 and SGU-0
    In facial plastic surgery, NYCOM-1 and SGU-0
    In opthomalogy, NYCOM-1 and SGU-1
    In radiology, NYCOM-4 and SGU-0

    ---NYCOM 2003 Matchlist---
    Anesthesia: 26
    Cleveland Clinic
    Einstein, NY (3)
    Univ of Chicago
    Univ of Wisconsin
    Yale
    NYU
    Suny Downstate (5)
    Maimonides, NY
    Metroheath, OH
    Temple, Philadelphia, PA
    Univ of Mass, MA
    UConn, CT
    Univ Buffalo, NY
    Metrohealth Med Ctr (OH)
    Stony Brook, NY
    Westchester Med Ctr, NY (NYMC)

    Emergency Medicine:
    Beth Israel, New York, NY
    LIJ/ Einstein, NY (2)
    North Shore Univ Hospitals, Manhasset, NY
    Univ at Buffalo (2)
    Newark Beth Israel, NJ
    Albert Einstein, Philadelphia, PA
    St. Barnabus, NY (6)
    St. Barnabus, NY EM/IM Combined
    UMDNJ, Kennedy Memorial (EM/IM Combined)

    Family Practice:
    Good Samaritan, NY
    New York United Hospital
    Mercy Hospital, PA
    St. Claires, NY, NY
    Union Hospital, NJ (2)
    Northside Hospital, FL
    St. Barnabus, NY (3)
    St. Josephs, Syracuse NY
    Overlook Hospital, NJ (2)
    Somerset Med Ctr, NJ
    UMDNJ (2)
    Univ of Pittsburgh

    General Surgery:
    Doctor's Hospital, OH
    Stony Brook, NY
    Maimonides Med Ctr, NY
    Nassau Univ Med Ctr, NY
    St. Vincents, NY, NY
    Wyckoff Heights Med Ctr, NY, NY
    St. Barnabus, NY

    OTO-Facial/Plastic Surgery
    Northeast Regional Medical Ctr, MO

    Internal Medicine:
    Beth Israel, New York, NY (4)
    George Washington Univ, DC
    Hershey, Penn State
    Kaiser Perm, CA
    Lennox Hill, NY (2)
    Loma Linda, CA
    LIJ, NY
    Mt. Sinai School of Medicine, NY (2)
    North Shore Univ Hospitals, Manhasset (2)
    New York Hospital, NY, NY (6)
    St Josephs, AZ
    SUNY Stony Brook, NY
    Univ of Southern California
    Univ of Tennessee, Nashville
    UMNDNJ- Newark (2)
    UMDNJ- Robert Wood (4)
    Univ of Mass, Worcester, MA
    Westchester Medical Ctr, NY
    Winthrop Univ Hospital, NY (6)
    Yale University, New Haven CT (2)

    Neurology:
    Albany Med, NY
    LIJ, NY
    North Shore Univ Hospital, Manhasset, NY
    UMDNJ- Newark

    NeuroSurgery:
    Doctors Hospital, OH (2)

    OB/Gyn
    Albany Med (3)
    Beth Israel, NY, NY
    MCP Hahnemann, Philadelphia, PA
    Michigan State, Lansing, MI
    St Francis, CT
    St. Vincents, NY, NY
    Univ Buffalo, NY

    Optho:
    Univ Buffalo, NY

    Orthopedic Surgery:
    St. Vincents, New York, NY (NYMC)

    Pathology:
    St. Lukes-Roosevelt, NY
    SUNY, Syracuse, NY

    Peds:
    LIJ, NY
    Good Samaritan, NY (2)
    Stony Brook (3)
    Suny Downstate (3)
    Univ Buffalo
    Winthrop Univ Hospital (3)

    PM&R:
    Harvard
    Einstein, NY
    LIJ, NY (2)
    Mt Sinai School of Medicine, NY
    NYU School of Medicine
    St. Vincents, NY, NY
    Univ of Michigan, Ann Arbor

    Psychiatry:
    LIJ, NY
    Maimonides, NY
    St. Lukes-Roosevelt- Columbia (2)
    Stony Brook (2)
    Thomas Jefferson, Philadelphia, PA
    Univ of Mass

    Radiology (Diagnostic)
    MCP Hahnemann
    Harlem Hospital, NY, NY
    Nassau Univ Med Ctr, NY
    St. Barnabus, NY, NY
     
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    ---SGU 2003 Matchlist---
    Anesthesiology
    Charles Ciolino: St. Barnabas Medical Center
    Alireza Farrohi: University of Miami-Jackson Memorial Medical Center
    Melissa Kokoszka: St. Barnabas Medical Center
    John Lesko: Shands Hospital at the University of Florida
    Donald Thornton: Via Christi Regional Medical Center-St. Francis

    Emergency Medicine
    Shamim Amini: University Hospital-SUNY Health Science Center at Syracuse
    Adam Cooper: Albert Einstein Medical Center
    Indrani Datta: New York Methodist Hospital
    Jason Fischer: Alameda County Medical Center
    Jason Greenbaum: Detroit Receiving Hospital and University Health Center
    David Groman: Sinai-Grace Hospital
    Phuong Ho: Sinai-Grace Hospital
    Mark Hogan: SUNY at Buffalo Grad Medical-Dental Education Consortium
    Tony Kanluen: Henry Ford Hospital
    Lisa Keough: University Hospital-SUNY Health Science Center at Syracuse
    Stanley Koontz: Wright State University School of Medicine
    Joseph Koza: Brooklyn Hospital Center
    James McPencow: Sinai-Grace Hospital
    Richard Petrik: New York Presbyterian Hospital
    Craig Robinson: Detroit Receiving Hospital and University Health Center
    Amina Siddiqui: New York Methodist Hospital
    Aaron Smith: Saginaw Cooperative Hospitals Inc.
    Jeremy Wood: Spectrum Health-Downtown Campus

    Family Practice:
    Michelle Ababa: Kern Medical Center
    Catharine Bass: St. Joseph's Hospital Health Center
    Bryon Boley: Kalamazoo Center for Medical Studies
    Gordon Clark: University Medical Center (Lafayette)
    Rae Connolly: Sacred Heart Hospital
    Shane Cummings: St. Mary Hospital
    Amy DeLuca: University of Louisville School of Medicine
    Philip Dennis, Jr.: Trover Clinic Foundation
    Roshinie Fernando: Kaleida Health System (Millard Fillmore Hospitals)
    Walter Finan: Bryn Mawr Hospital
    Michael Girgis: Methodist Hospitals of Dallas
    Jasmin Grewal: Scottsdale Healthcare-Osborn
    Arthur Halliday: East Carolina University School of Medicine
    David Han: Glendale Adventist Medical Center
    Olga Karantoni: New York Medical College
    Eran Kessous: Boston Medical Center:
    Sungwook Kim: Highland Hospital of Rochester
    Arash Lalezary: Glendale Adventist Medical Center
    Louis Landman: St. Vincent Hospital and Health Care Center
    Mark Leatherwood: Memorial Medical Center
    Kirby Orme: Mountainside Hospital
    Philip Meyette: Munson Medical Center
    Alexander Moore: St. Vincent's Medical Center
    Jeremy Morse: University of Wyoming College of Health Sciences
    John Murimi: Strong Memorial Hospital of the University of Rochester
    Bao Nguyen: Arrowhead Regional Medical Center
    Danh Nguyen: Kern Medical Center
    Denise Hong Nguyen: Southern California Kaiser Permanente Medical Group
    Shephali Patel: Stamford Hospital
    Joshua Payer: North Shore University Hospital at Glen Cove
    Jennifer Peters: Bristol Regional Medical Center
    Ryan Phasouk: University of Illinois College of Medicine at Rockford
    Truong Quach: Arrowhead Regional Medical Center
    Adam Rhodes: Scottsdale Healthcare-Osborn
    Khalid Sabha: St. Elizabeth Medical Center
    Rajveer Sachdev: University of Maryland Medical System
    Amir Salek: University of Wyoming College of Health Sciences
    Kathleen Schaefer: Mayo Graduate School of Medicine-Mayo Foundation
    Matthew Sokol: Southside Hospital
    Michael Tahir: LSU Medical Center-University Hospital
    Richard Thwaites: Baylor Medical Center at Garland
    Jason Todd: DCH Regional Medical Center
    Kenneth Yeung: Brooklyn Hospital Center
     
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    ---SGU 2003 Matchlist cont'd---
    Internal Medicine:
    Soroush Aghigh: St. Luke's-Roosevelt Hospital Center
    Fariha Ahmed: Allegheny General Hospital
    Sameer Ambady: St. Luke's-Roosevelt Hospital Center-Roosevelt Division
    Deena Athas: Staten Island University Hospital
    Bhagat Aulakh: OSF St. Francis Medical Center
    Robby Ayoub: St. Michael's Medical Center (Cathedral Health Svcs, Inc)
    Susana Ayyanathan: Lenox Hill Hospital
    Nison Badalov: Maimonides Medical Center
    Eldar Baigabatov: Long Island College Hospital
    Shelley Bath: Mount Sinai School of MedicineLuiz Coelho: Albany Medical Center
    Adam Baumgarten: California Pacific Medical Center
    Betsy Jacob Bennet: Washington Hospital Center
    Kenneth Bennet: Washington Hospital Center
    Igor Berengolts: Sisters of Charity Health Care System-St. Vincent's Campus
    Roy Berenholtz: Flushing Hospital Medical Center
    Cheryl Bloomfield: Lehigh Valley Hospital
    Brian Borkowski: University of Connecticut School of Medicine
    Carol Bravo: University of Miami-Jackson Memorial Medical Center
    Scott Card: Greater Baltimore Medical Center
    Gregory Cartnick: Jersey Shore Medical Center
    Julie Champagne: Long Island College Hospital
    David Chu: University Hospital-SUNY at Stony Brook
    Victor Chang: University Hospital-SUNY at Stony Brook
    Krishna Chunduri: St. Louis University School of Medicine
    Edward Cheng: St. Luke's-Roosevelt Hospital Center
    Wen Chung: Elmhurst Hospital Center-Mount Sinai Services
    Victor Coelho: Medical College of Georgia Hospital and Clinics
    Bianca Conti: Mercy Medical Center
    Michelle Cooper: Brooklyn Hospital Center
    Steven Corvari: Norwalk Hospital
    Joseph DeLuca: University of Louisville School of Medicine
    Chirag Desai: East Carolina University School of Medicine
    William Duggan: Wilson Memorial Regional Medical Center (United Health Svs)
    Kale Ferguson: Lehigh Valley Hospital
    Helen Ferng: St. Luke's-Roosevelt Hospital Center
    Justin Fox: Long Island College Hospital
    Monisha Garg: Medical College of Georgia Hospital and Clinics
    Wendy Gaza: St. Louis University Hospital
    Kristof Gehrke: Marshfield Clinic - Saint Joseph's Hospital
    Matthew Gembala: University Medical Center
    Maha Ghosn: St. Michael's Medical Center (Cathedral Health Svcs, Inc)
    Raymond Giammanco: George Washington University School of Medicine
    Kunal Grover: UMDNJ-New Jersey Medical School
    Jonathan Grossman: Atlantic City Medical Center
    Jeffrey Groves: University of Utah Medical Center
    Joan Guevarra: Allegheny General Hospital
    David Guarraia: University of Arizona College of Medicine
    Mark Gullapalli: Brooklyn Hospital Center
    Bharat Gummadi: University of Florida College of Medicine at Jacksonville
    Peyman Haghighat: LAC-King / Drew Medical Center
    Michael Harris: University Hospital-SUNY at Stony Brook
    Tal Hazan: Providence Hospital and Medical Centers
    Andrew Hemmen: Lenox Hill Hospital
    James Holmes: University of Utah Medical Center
    Suleman Iqbal: MCP Hahnemann University
    Chukwuemeka Iroha: University of Nevada School of Medicine
    Saima Jabeen: Jersey Shore Medical Center
    Shahriar Jarchi: University Medical Center of Southern Nevada
    Nikesh Jasani: University of Florida College of Medicine at Jacksonville
    Shaolay Jiang: NYU Downtown Hospital
    Prasanthi Kakumanu: University Hospital-SUNY Health Science Center at Syracuse
    Sowmya Kanikkannan: St. John Hospital and Medical Center
    Jon Karl: Newark Beth Israel Medical Center
    Christi Kim: University Hospital-SUNY at Stony Brook
    Eugene Kim: West Suburban Hospital Medical Center:
    Tibor Kalnoki-Kis: University of Michigan Hospitals and Health Centers
    Yakoub Katri: Long Island College Hospital
    Amit Kaushal: Brooklyn Hospital Center
    Farhana Khan: Long Island College Hospital
    John Koo: LAC-King/Drew Medical Center
    Mark Kotlarewsky: Washington Hospital Center
    Sheng Kuo: University Hospital-SUNY at Stony Brook
    Sanjay Kulkarni: Atlantic City Medical Center
    Sanjay Kunapuli: University of Texas Medical Branch Hospitals
    Christina Le: Kaiser Permanente Medical Center (Santa Clara)
    Jack Lu: University Hospital-SUNY Health Science Center at Syracuse
    Jason Lu: Atlantic City Medical Center
    Srikanth Malempati: MCP Hahnemann University
    Amee Mapara: Albany Medical Center
    Leo Marcoff: University of Connecticut School of Medicine
    Don-Antonio Martin: SUNY Health Science Center at Brooklyn
    Selvam Mascarenhas: Norwalk Hospital
    Ali Masood: Albany Medical Center
    Victor Mazza: UMDNJ-New Jersey Medical School
    Sally-Ann McIntosh: Long Island College Hospital
    Kamini Mehta: St. Luke's-Roosevelt Hospital Center
    Arlena Menda: Kern Medical Center
    Reza Mostofi: MCP Hahnemann University
    Dean Mozeleski: Geisinger Medical Center
    Mahendra Narendran: University of Massachusetts Medical School
    Joseph Nesheiwat: University of Tennessee College of Medicine
    Han Nguyen: Stamford Hospital
    Vien Nguyen: Medical Center of Central Georgia
    Khalid Noori: St. Luke's-Roosevelt Hospital Center
    Peyman Otmishi: University of Louisville School of Medicine
    Larry Owens: University of Utah Medical Center
    Siera Panhwar: St. Luke's-Roosevelt Hospital Center
    Dipal Patel: St. Luke's-Roosevelt Hospital Center
    Krupa Patel: Maricopa Medical Center
    Asit Patnaik: Seton Hall University School of Graduate Medical Education
    Soteri Polydorou: Lenox Hill Hospital
    Lyle Posecion: Long Island College Hospital
    John Rajapakse: St. Joseph's Hospital and Medical Center
    Sumita Rawal: Sound Shore Medical Center of Westchester
    James Rinkle: Seton Hall University School of Graduate Medical Education
    Veronika Romashova: Maimonides Medical Center
    Dina Rosen: Alameda County Medical Center
    Kristin Royal: Graduate Hospital (Tenet Health System)
    Ravin Rupani: University of Connecticut School of Medicine
    Noreen Sakowitz: Atlantic City Medical Center
    Gary Sandhu: Kern Medical Center
    Anand Saranathan: Loyola University Medical Center
    Hakima Schulz: Orlando Regional Medical Center
    Hiral Shah: Washington Hospital Center
    Kuan Shen: Flushing Hospital Medical Center
    Sunita Sidhu: Winthrop-University Hospital
    Manzurul Sikder: UMDNJ-University Hospital
    Shibu Skaria: University Hospital-SUNY at Stony Brook
    James Snay: University of Illinois College of Medicine at Urbana
    Sherry Sood: Southern Illinois University School of Medicine
    Brian Sorin: Flushing Hospital Medical Center
    Charles Starke, II: Flushing Hospital Medical Center
    Prasanth Surampudi: St. Barnabas Medical Center
    Robert Stanley: Albany Medical Center
    Fathimazzohare Syed: Winthrop-University Hospital
    Kirti Tandon: NYU Downtown Hospital
    Deepak Thiagarajan: Norwalk Hospital
    Hui Hing Tin: Maimonides Medical Center
    Dan Tong: University of Massachusetts Medical School
    Mitesh Trambadia: St. Michael's Medical Center (Cathedral Health Svcs, Inc)
    Konstantin Vaizman: Maimonides Medical Center
    Kevin Vakili: Brooklyn Hospital Center
    Roham Vatanparast: San Joaquin General Hospital
    Kaninika Verma: OSF St. Francis Medical Center
    Phong Vo: Alameda County Medical Center
    Carrie Wasserman: Lenox Hill Hospital
    Johan Worndle: Allegheny General Hospital
    Jeffrey Yaiko: Geisinger Medical Center
    Irim Yusuf: St. Vincent's Hospital and Medical Center of New York
    Michel Zakari: Alameda County Medical Center
    Aaron Zuidema: University Hospitals and Clinics

    Internal Medicine/Pediatrics:
    Atique Ahmad: Newark Beth Israel Medical Center
    Marc DeVito: UMDNJ-New Jersey Medical School
    Christine Hsu: Albany Medical Center
    Edward Jernigan: Maine Medical Center
    Subodh Pal: Ohio State University Medical Center
    Abdul Parpia: West Virginia University Hospitals

    Neurology:
    Milan Sanghavi: Southern Illinois University School of Medicine
    William Walters: University of Arkansas College of Medicine

    Obstetrics and Gynecology:
    Ramzi Alkass: University of Connecticut School of Medicine
    Tatyana Andrews: Brooklyn Hospital Center
    Oren Azulay: Albert Einstein Medical Center
    Holly Balestrieri: Boston Medical Center
    James Buchinger: University of Oklahoma College of Medicine
    Phong Francois Bui: Tulane University School of Medicine
    Chia-Ling Nhan-Chang: Staten Island University Hospital
    Michael Cunningham: UMDNJ-Robert Wood Johnson Medical School
    Steven Granger: Eastern Virginia Medical School
    Jessica Lee: Tulane University Hospital and Clinics
    Hung Traw Luu: Tulane University School of Medicine
    Bassem Maximos: Louisiana State University School of Medicine
    Deeptha Nair: St. Barnabas Medical Center
    Nicola Pemberton: Newark Beth Israel Medical Center
    Maria Pimentel: Louisiana State University School of Medicine
    Julia Riftine: Brooklyn Hospital Center
    Kristina Sogocio: St. Barnabas Medical Center
    Davin Soehnen: UMDNJ-Robert Wood Johnson Medical School
    Sara Stoneburg: Stamford Hospital
    Irina Vaizman: Staten Island University Hospital
    Lystra Wilson: North Oakland Medical Center
     
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    ---SGU 2003 Matchlist cont'd---
    Ophthalmology
    Nisha Patel: SUNY at Buffalo Grad Medical-Dental Education Consortium

    Orthopaedic Surgery
    William Dunbar, V: University of Wisconsin Hospital and Clinics

    Otolaryngology
    Nina Janatpour: LSU Medical Center-University Hospital

    Pathology
    Stefania Giobbe: St. Barnabas Medical Center
    Derek Lyle: Cedars-Sinai Medical Center

    Pediatrics
    Ronda Adham: University of Nevada School of Medicine
    Sara Ahmed: SUNY Health Science Center at Brooklyn
    Shad Baab: East Carolina University School of Medicine
    Lauren Blankstein: Newark Beth Israel Medical Center
    Sureka Bollepalli: Albert Einstein Medical Center
    Allyson Boodram: Clarian Riley Hospital for Children
    Ninfa Candela: Winthrop-University Hospital
    Marc ChesterInova Fairfax Hospital
    Matthew Coulson: Children's Hospital of Orange County
    Snehal Doshi: University of Texas Medical Branch Hospitals
    Kristi Egland: University of Illinois College of Medicine at Chicago
    Nazli Ghafouri: Louisiana State University School of Medicine
    Yvonne Giunta: SUNY Health Science Center at Brooklyn
    Eric Hastriter: Pitt County Memorial Hospital
    Omar Hudson: All Children's Hospital
    Trent John: Nassau University Medical Center
    Shiji John: Westchester Medical Center
    Kashyar Khodabakhsh: New York Methodist Hospital
    Tracey Krasnow: Clarian Riley Hospital for Children
    Kumarsooriyar Kumaravelu: UMDNJ-New Jersey Medical School
    Jeff Kuo: Jersey City Medical Center
    Richard Lehman: St. Joseph's Hospital and Medical Center
    Calvin Lin: New York Methodist Hospital
    Dimple Ludher: Crozer-Chester Medical Center
    Ayman Mansour: New York Methodist Hospital
    Alison McCrone: SUNY at Buffalo Grad Medical-Dental Education Consortium
    Christian McDonough: Maimonides Medical Center
    Janine Miller: SUNY Health Science Center at Brooklyn
    Melanie O'Donnell: University of Nevada School of Medicine
    Lauren Olson: University of Kansas Medical Center
    Helen Papaioannou: North Shore University Hospital
    Woo Paek: Miami Children's Hospital
    Dinesh Pillai: Maimonides Medical Center
    Dunisha Ranasuriya: SUNY Health Science Center at Brooklyn
    Jennifer Rama: SUNY Health Science Center at Brooklyn
    Shumyla Saeed: SUNY Health Science Center at Brooklyn
    Babak Salimi: Clarian Riley Hospital for Children
    Fiona K. M. Sanger: New York Medical College
    Bianca Shah: University of Florida College of Medicine at Jacksonville
    David Tran: University of Nevada School of Medicine
    Michael Ulich: New York Medical College
    Marko Vezmar: Miami Children's Hospital
    William Webb: Memorial Health-University Medical Center

    Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation:
    Varinder Dhillon: SUNY at Buffalo Grad Medical-Dental Education Consortium
    Ramnik Singh: New York Presbyterian Hospital (Columbia Campus)

    Psychiatry
    Hasan Baloch: Virginia Commonwealth University School of Medicine
    Lian Chien: LAC-King/Drew Medical Center
    Sudhir Gadh: University Hospital-SUNY at Stony Brook
    Douglas Hoverkamp: University of Virginia Medical Center
    Georges Karam: Barnes-Jewish Hospital
    Clare Maxwell: University of South Dakota School of Medicine
    David Reznik: University Hospital-SUNY Health Science Center at Syracuse
    Bryan Schwieters: Hennepin County Medical Center
    Melinda Taylor: Medical College of Wisconsin Affiliated Hospitals, Inc.

    Surgery
    Neil Banga: UMDNJ-New Jersey Medical School
    Pierre Barakat: Maimonides Medical Center
    Naira Baregamian: Maimonides Medical Center
    Brian Binetti: St. Barnabas Medical Center
    Michael Boros: Kalamazoo Center for Medical Studies
    David Brennick: Michigan State University College of Human Medicine
    Marko Bukur: St. Barnabas Medical Center
    Mark Cavaretta: Monmouth Medical Center
    Dean Cerio: SUNY at Buffalo Grad Medical-Dental Education Consortium
    Christopher DeSantis: St. Barnabas Medical Center
    Christopher DiBlasio: University of Tennessee College of Medicine
    Michael Dolan: University Hospital and Clinics
    Marc Ebersberger, Jr.: Medical College of Virginia Hospitals
    Kelly Garrett: Albany Medical Center
    Mandy Greenberg: Stamford Hospital
    Patrick Greiffenstein: Louisiana State University School of Medicine
    Kyle Harvey: St. Joseph Mercy-Oakland
    Jennifer Hill: Lenox Hill Hospital
    Brandon Howard: University Hospital-SUNY at Stony Brook
    Todd Huzar: New York Methodist Hospital
    Omid Jazaeri: Lehigh Valley Hospital
    Christian Kaufman: University Hospitals and Clinics
    Ali Mahmood: St. Joseph Mercy-Oakland
    Kavita Malhotra: LSU Medical Center-University Hospital
    Christian McClung: Los Angeles County-Harbor-UCLA Medical Center
    Grace Anne Montenegro: St. Vincent's Hospital and Medical Center of New York
    Gregory Pakonis: Monmouth Medical Center
    Garri Pasklinsky: University Hospital-SUNY at Stony Brook
    A. Rice Petrie: University of Missouri-Kansas City School of Medicine
    Arundathi Rao: Morehouse School of Medicine
    Steven Rottman: Union Memorial Hospital
    Khaled Salhab: University Hospital-SUNY at Stony Brook
    Kevin Scholten: St. Barnabas Medical Center
    Saurin Shah: Albany Medical Center
    Albert Shalomov: Monmouth Medical Center
    Adam Silverman: Monmouth Medical Center
    Ashton Stanton: North Shore University Hospital
    Heather Thieme: York Hospital
    Brandon Tominna: New York Medical College
    Patricia Touzeau: Brooklyn Hospital Center
    Ziyad Wadi: Staten Island University Hospital
    Charles Wilson: Monmouth Medical Center

    Transitional Year
    Anita Ankola: St. Barnabas Medical Center
    Matthew Boles: St. Joseph Mercy-Oakland
    Daniel Constance: Hurley Medical Center
    Ratna Garapati: St. Joseph Mercy-Oakland
    Alekh Hira: Frankford Hospital (Frankford Campus)
    Eugene Slocum: Maryland General Hospital
    Isaac Spiteri: Griffin Hospital
     
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    thanks a lot slickness for the many posts with the match lists and data. I'll do a search to see the other opinions.
     
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    Wonder how many of the 43 Gsurg where prelim years. Anyhoots pretty darn interesing.
     
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    Good point VentdependenT. Also, the numbers for general surgery and other specialities are somewhat deceiving because you don't know how many students at NYCOM applied for general surgery besides the seven that got them. In fact, I believe out of those 7, only two were allopathic residencies and the other five were osteopathic general surgery residencies (although I am not quite sure what is the real difference between the two). Either way, the 7 general surgery residencies is still probably the best for most osteopathic schools. The 43 gen. surgery residencies from SGU is pretty impressing because it is a good residency and 43 out of 250-350 graduating students is a pretty good ratio (eventhough the demand for general surgery has declined over the past few years).

    The reason why I asked this question is that I am going to start next year and don't know yet which of the two schools I will be attending. I have a certain affinity for surgery meaning that I like it and look forward to doing my surgery rotation in med school. I would like to have every opportunity to compete for competitive residencies.

    Thanks to all.

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    a couple of quick comments.
    1. if you want to really optimize your competitiveness for residency - i would suggest attending an american MD program.
    when you're trying to match you'll find that issues like the location of residency, quality of program, resident schedules, etc. really do matter. by attending MD and doing well (grades, boards) you can tailor your life to whatever suits you.

    2. it is very important to make the destinction between what you like and what you want to do. the truth is, most people like surgery (or the idea of surgery), but most of those do not chose it as a career. it definitely takes a certain kind of person to be a surgeon (if you've ever worked an 80 hour week (more like 90) and loved it, surgery is your bag). you'll figure that out during 3rd and 4th years though.

    3. take everything that people say (including my post) with a grain of salt. after everything is said and done - your experience is unique. do what makes you happy (the key is understanding that medicine is just one element in the big picture).
     
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    Let me tell you, most residencies ACTIVELY limit the amount of island/FMG/IMG grads that enter into their residencies. The overwhelming feeling is that once you get them into the program...you will ALWAYS get them into your program and mainland graduate applicants will drop off or begin to rank your program lower and lower.
    Therfore, you see some programs FILLED with IMG's and if they list the last three classes, you can even see a trend.
    I know during our rank meetings, we only rank one or two FMG's in our ROL of 80, essentially for that reason.
    Some programs, particularly IM and some FP are only FMG, and virtually no mainland grads will apply.
    Osteopathic graduates either enter their own match or the allopathic match. It is clear (at least to me), that programs would prefer DO grads over FMG's.
     
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    Without a doubt DO is going to have an advantage over an FMG of any stripe. Just my opinion and what I have heard from PD's in different specialties here.

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    That is quite a statement. "Without a doubt..." eh...lol

    Let's be serious for a second. Both DO's and US Carib grads are bottom-of-the barrel when it comes to PDs.

    The difference is that DOs have their own residencies in competitive specialties that gives them an overall advantage (osteo + allo) whereas even the best Carib grads are limited to allo residencies.

    Making sweeping statements are the empty calories of discussions. It feels good at first, but it is ultimately irrelevant and unhelpful.
     
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    Don't know about US Carib grads and FMGs, but as for DOs, for many competitive residencies that's not necessarily the case, like you said yourself, you shouldn't make such statements.
     
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    Time for some good spleen venting....

    It was quite sneaky of SGU to list all of their prelim surgery and IM matches as categoricals. And the fact that a facial plastics fellowship match made it into the mix means they were obviously combining many medical school classes.
     
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    You seem to be confused about what dictates a general statement (based on bias) vs. a statement based on logic.

    It is biased blanket statement to infer that DO's are undoubtedly at an advantage in every case over a Carib grad.

    It is logical to place both non-allopathic DO's and non-LCME Carib USIMGs at the bottom of the totem pole when it comes to allopathic residencies. The logic lies in the FACT that DO's purposely (or involuntarily) chose the osteopathic route. That places them bellow similarly qualified LCME allopathic applicants, by definition. Is this how it plays out in every case: who knows? What is clear is that it is true in the majority of cases.

    Let me guess, you're a DO/DO student...

     
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    I expected more of SGU.

    Nonethless, if you just adjust the page for only PGY-2's and search for Surgery, you will see that there are 24 people in their PGY2 year, thus the GS matches for 2007.

    They have two classes per year that they report. I would venture to guess that since they accept about 500-700 people per year with a published <10% attrition rate would give you an idea of their relative match rate.
     
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    I noticed the OP is now listed as a "resident"... Considering how old the post is, it would be interesting to see which route he chose.
    Dmitri?
     
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    He went to the islands. I think one of the big 4. Didn't match into ER and did a prelim medicine year. I wish him the best this year.
     
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    I really need to start checking to see when the OP made the first post...lol
     
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    I agree with the above statement, but as you so elegantly put it

     
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    Don't be too sad. This resurrection of a five year old thread is over a year old itself;)
     
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    SGU has between 20 to 30 Anesth matches every year and about 15 to 20 Rads matches each year..

    The one advantage to going to a DO schools is that as a DO you can apply to DO only residencies in these fields... but when it comes to matching into allopathic spots SGU and the "TOP" DO schools (NYCOM, CCOM, PCOM) share very similar matches.

    https://baysgu35.sgu.edu/ERD/2008/ResidPost.nsf/BYPGY?OpenView&RestrictToCategory=PGY2&Count=-1 (click on specialty to organize by specialty)

    2008 PGY2 spots
    Anesth 28
    Rad 14
    Surgery 23
     
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    sgu doesnt match that high a number. It varies from year to year. one year it was over 20 anesth matches but it usually ranges between 12-15 for both rads and anesth which is still great for a carib school.
     
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    What are you basing that on? You can look at the links for the last two or three years and its pretty consistent to what I stated earlier.

    Click on the link, then click on specialty to sort alphabetically by specialty (anesthesia will come first and diagnostic radiology will come second)....count them for yourself:thumbup:
     
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    Go D.O., and to a good one. Not one of the new ones with poor clinical sites, high tuition, and no-name recognition.

    Caribs are on the way out. Anyone who chooses a carib now is just asking for 300k in loans and no residency.

    D.O. schools are not without their own problems, and if the AOA doesn't start to get with the program, especially on for-profit schools and Osteopath GME, then they will feel the wrath as well.
     
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    The frank truth is

    1 .US M.D
    2. U.S D.O
    3. Foreign born, foreign medical school
    4. US born, foreign medical school

    Be sure to compare how many people who went to St Georges or Ross had some "in" before getting the residency. Remember also, DO schools encourage primary care. I knew a guy who matched at Emory for ophthalmology coming from St georges. His dad was a huge ophthalmologist in Atlanta who sent tons of referrals to Emory . Pretty sure he didn't get it on merit.. My brother went to St Georges. I went to Howard. For the DO and US born foreign medical school people a lot of the top residencies are about having a major connection. When you have 1 or 2 people going into plastics, derm or ophth it is most likely that..less so merit.
     
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    Did you make a typo in regards to #3 and #4? If not I'm curious if that is true.
    Any updates on the OP?
    Also nice 2nd resuscitation of a thread that refuses to die.
     
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    If I were a residency program director, I would follow the same hierarchy. Recently a study was published in Health Affairs showing that patients treated by U.S. citizens who studied at foreign medical schools had the highest mortality rates.

    PDF here: http://www.ama-assn.org/ama1/pub/upload/mm/18/0810-health-affairs-imgs.pdf

    -AT.
     
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    Interesting article, thanks. I do have to say though if a PD is choosing based on that study wouldn't a nonUSIMG be ranked over a USMG?

    I am neither in camp #3 nor #4 (if my SN didn't give it away) but am just curious. All things being equal I would think the two would be reversed on a PD's "ranking".
     
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    Loving the thread necromancy as well:rolleyes:

    But: my educated guess is that that is the correct order as listed. For some countries, only the best and the brightest make it to medical school. For example, India is known for this. Not infrequently, they may come to a US program already having gone through a foreign residency-and while their respective healthcare system may be different than the US, they come with a wealth of clinical knowledge and experience (some of the smartest/best residents and attendings I've worked with have this background). With regards to the USIMGs who often make outstanding doctors, most often they are not USIMGs becuase they were the cream of the crop, esp. with regards to the Carib schools.
     
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    How many lives does this feline have left???

    Also, DO ... no question (when given the choice between the Caribbean and US DO).
     
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    there is no big 3 in the DO world, I go to one of the "no name" schools and believe me we get into some amazing spots, especially with most of my class applying for anesthesia. So go DO IMO.
     
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    DO is the obvious choice if you want a competitive residency.
    Caribbean grads do get competitive residencies but it is much tougher and has been getting increasingly tough as the number of students in US med schools are increasing. If you mess up on your steps or med school you're up the creek, so it is safer to be a DO. At least with DO you will even get a competitive DO residency if not an MD residency.

    The one thing im not sure of is if when out in the real world, how much business a DO gets in terms of number of patients, as most patients have heard of MD, but not DO. I guess they get by but not sure how they compare to MD's. Either way the safest way to go is DO. if you went to SGU, you probably are a shoein for residency because they are top three. as long as you get into the top 3 carribs and do well in it through out you may be fine. it's just more of a risk. most of my collegues got in residency (Carrib school here) and made it out, but most of them weren't competitive residencies. most likely you'd probably end up settling for IM, FM, etc. primary care as a Carrib.
     
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    They get plenty of business.
     

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