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anonperson said:
Lol. Harris doesn't realize what she's doing?

Do you ever get tired for the constant Democrat excuses?
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Do you get tired of advocating for conspiracy theories or bad faith interpretations of events?

A similar thing happens when I'm talking about medical concepts with patients, I unconsciously (at this point) use simpler concepts to describe things. I'm unconsciously tailoring my speech to my audience. If the patient says they're a doctor or has demonstrated a greater understanding of medicine, I now have to consciously tailor my speech to them.

The point is that everyone does this to some extent. They tailor their speech patterns for their audience.
 
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Southpaw said:
yeah, I’m asking YOU why I should care? Not a guy on X who would take someone out of context to prove a point to support his side.
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You should care because you want Harris to beat Trump and code-switching doesn’t play well with minorities, as Hillary already found out.
Southpaw said:
Also, I watched a separate clip of him where he says that Kamala isn’t black. Then I went to her Wikipedia (I know I know, can’t trust that Wikipedia….). It says her father is Donald J. Harris. So his Wikipedia says he was the first Black scholar granted tenure at Stanford. I think I’m safe to assume that both he and she are black. What am I missing here ?
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Not sure. He’s African-Jamaican. Maybe African-Americans have a unique culture and aren’t a monolith so they don’t like it when politicians try to appropriate their identity for political gain?
 
GassmanMD said:
You should care because you want Harris to beat Trump and code-switching doesn’t play well with minorities, as Hillary already found out.

Not sure. He’s African-Jamaican. Maybe African-Americans have a unique culture and aren’t a monolith so they don’t like it when politicians try to appropriate their identity for political gain?
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Yeah, whatever. Her dad is black. She is black. I’m moving on because you don’t have a point.
 
GassmanMD said:
code-switching doesn’t play well with minorities, as Hillary already found out.
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"Inauthentic" code-switching doesn't play well for sure.

I don't think you've demonstrated Harris' code switching is inauthentic. But I'm not a minority, so I wouldn't really be the person to ask. It's tough to determine authenticity sometimes as well in that there is plenty of room for disagreement.
 
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GassmanMD said:
You should care because you want Harris to beat Trump and code-switching doesn’t play well with minorities, as Hillary already found out.

Not sure. He’s African-Jamaican. Maybe African-Americans have a unique culture and aren’t a monolith so they don’t like it when politicians try to appropriate their identity for political gain?
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Also I think he’s Jamaican-American. Why did you refer to him as African?
 
Southpaw said:
Also I think he’s Jamaican-American. Why did you refer to him as African?
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Donald Jasper Harris was born in Brown's Town, St. Ann Parish, Jamaica, the son of Oscar Joseph Harris and Beryl Christie Harris (née Finegan),[7][8] who were Afro-Jamaicans.

That’s what Wikipedia calls his parents. Donald Harris was an immigrant to America in the 1960s. The Harris family has no shared history with the African-Americans that we refer to in this country. You can technically call him African-American and you would be correct, but you’re asking me to interpret why black people don’t consider the Harris’ “black” and my guess would be due to a lack of shared ancestry, culture and heritage.
 
GassmanMD said:
You should care because you want Harris to beat Trump and code-switching doesn’t play well with minorities, as Hillary already found out.

Not sure. He’s African-Jamaican. Maybe African-Americans have a unique culture and aren’t a monolith so they don’t like it when politicians try to appropriate their identity for political gain?
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I can tell you're very, very concerned about this.
 
Southpaw said:
Yeah, whatever. Her dad is black. She is black. I’m moving on because you don’t have a point.
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You brought this up, not me. Remember I posted a video about code-switching and then you changed the subject and asked me a non-related question about black people saying Harris isn’t black?
 
pgg said:
I can tell you're very, very concerned about this.
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I’m really not, I’m just answering questions unrelated to my post. You guys do this a lot. You’ll ask questions and then throw a hissy fit about the answers. Don’t ask stupid questions, you won’t get stupid answers.
 
rowsdower88 said:
"Inauthentic" code-switching doesn't play well for sure.

I don't think you've demonstrated Harris' code switching is inauthentic. But I'm not a minority, so I wouldn't really be the person to ask. It's tough to determine authenticity sometimes as well in that there is plenty of room for disagreement.
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No. Perceived inauthentic code-switching doesn’t play well. All I have to do is demonstrate that her code switching is perceived to be inauthentic and that video plus others I’ve seen are proof enough.
 
GassmanMD said:
No. Perceived inauthentic code-switching doesn’t play well. All I have to do is demonstrate that her code switching is perceived to be inauthentic and that video plus others I’ve seen are proof enough.
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It matters to the recipient. If you want to try and convince everyone listening to her message, that she, a black woman, is code switching inauthentically, go ahead. Let me know how that works out.
 
GassmanMD said:
No. Perceived inauthentic code-switching doesn’t play well. All I have to do is demonstrate that her code switching is perceived to be inauthentic and that video plus others I’ve seen are proof enough.
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No doubt Chaya Raichek and her audience perceive her to be inauthentic.
 
GassmanMD said:


Everything you Leftists say is trivial in comparison to the magnitude of a presidential candidate calling the first amendment a “privilege” as opposed to a right.
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What she really is saying is anything that completes against our total monopoly of what the American people hear must be stopped.
 
GassmanMD said:
You brought this up, not me. Remember I posted a video about code-switching and then you changed the subject and asked me a non-related question about black people saying Harris isn’t black?
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yeah I just got tired of short X clips which were obviously intended to take someone out of context to prove a political point. And then you posted a X clip from Rob Smith, and I got sidetracked because in another video he said that she wasn't even black. And that had me really confused. I figured he was going down the same racist path that Trump went down for a while. But then I realized once again that I don't care about whatever it is you were claiming she did, because I don't believe it. Actually, maybe she is talking with an accent to one crowd that she doesn't use with another, I just don't care.
 
One day market smashing today means nothing. Right now in a down to the wire race a sustained push these next 2 months up or down in the market and economy would end the dog fight and result in one candidate pulling away unable to be caught.

We can talk about prostitutes and borders and riot bail outs and Capital protest and Marxism and ear bullets and documents and mindless word salads, it typically comes down to economy stupid.
 
rowsdower88 said:
Do you get tired of advocating for conspiracy theories or bad faith interpretations of events?

A similar thing happens when I'm talking about medical concepts with patients, I unconsciously (at this point) use simpler concepts to describe things. I'm unconsciously tailoring my speech to my audience. If the patient says they're a doctor or has demonstrated a greater understanding of medicine, I now have to consciously tailor my speech to them.

The point is that everyone does this to some extent. They tailor their speech patterns for their audience.
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I have enough self awareness to understand that candidates are flawed. Trump is a dirtbag but I don't really care because the alternative is not something I want (Kamala Harris and the Democrats).

It's comical that you constantly lick the boot of every Democratic candidate as though they walk on water.

Again, you are the same poster who was indignant at the mere mention of Biden being mentally compromised. You thought it was a big right wing media conspiracy to make Biden look bad etc/cheap fakes etc.

Now we have to stomach the BS that Harris is some great presidential candidate when we all know she was only chosen for VP because she checked the race and gender boxes. And she only got boosted to the presidential candidacy because of the current campaign war chest promised to her and that any reasonable democratic candidate would not want to stake their political career on a 3 month election blitz.

Harris is the same candidate who dropped out with single digit support in 2019. She is the same candidate who the Biden administration essentially ignored the last 2 years.

Just be reasonable.
 
We'llBeDoneIn15Minutes said:
One day market smashing today means nothing. Right now in a down to the wire race a sustained push these next 2 months up or down in the market and economy would end the dog fight and result in one candidate pulling away unable to be caught.

We can talk about prostitutes and borders and riot bail outs and Capital protest and Marxism and ear bullets and documents and mindless word salads, it typically comes down to economy stupid.
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100%

If the market is down, the job market is tight, and people still have issues with affording day to day things (groceries, rent), that will seriously impact Harris beyond any of the other issues.

If those things can turn around, she will win.
 
anonperson said:
I have enough self awareness to understand that candidates are flawed. Trump is a dirtbag but I don't really care because the alternative is not something I want (Kamala Harris and the Democrats).

It's comical that you constantly lick the boot of every Democratic candidate as though they walk on water.

Again, you are the same poster who was indignant at the mere mention of Biden being mentally compromised. You thought it was a big right wing media conspiracy to make Biden look bad etc/cheap fakes etc.

Now we have to stomach the BS that Harris is some great presidential candidate when we all know she was only chosen for VP because she checked the race and gender boxes. And she only got boosted to the presidential candidacy because of the current campaign war chest promised to her and that any reasonable democratic candidate would not want to stake their political career on a 3 month election blitz.

Harris is the same candidate who dropped out with single digit support in 2019. She is the same candidate who the Biden administration essentially ignored the last 2 years.

Just be reasonable.
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I know I'm being reasonable when the people I'm talking with divert this far from the argument I made.
 
anonperson said:
Just be reasonable.
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Harris is well qualified. She's been a state AG, state senator, and VPOTUS. Who was the last Republican candidate as well qualified? Did she win the primary, or even do well? No. Does that take away from her qualifications? No. Is Nikki Haley well qualified? Yes she is. Did she beat Trump in the primary? Nope, didn't even win her own state. But she's still well qualified.

Kinda tough to tell the poster to be reasonable when you’re not being very reasonable yourself.
 
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anonperson said:
If you read the article, the concept of family separation occurred under the Obama administration as well.

Where was the outage then?

His administration didn't do it as often but h
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anonperson said:
Lol. Harris doesn't realize what she's doing?

Do you ever get tired for the constant Democrat excuses?
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You talk to your friends the same way you talked to your attendings in residency? I doubt it. Have you never used the phrases "what's up bro/bruh?" I'm from the South but doing live there anymore. My language as changed but when I go back out talk to my friends from the South I both subconsciously and consciously catch myself using phrases sucks as "y'all"and "ain't" and dropping the g off of words like "going" and "eating." Yes it's an actual thing that people who interact with different groups do.
 
Southpaw said:
Harris is well qualified. She's been a state AG, state senator, and VPOTUS. Who was the last Republican candidate as well qualified? Did she win the primary, or even do well? No. Does that take away from her qualifications? No. Is Nikki Haley well qualified? Yes she is. Did she beat Trump in the primary? Nope, didn't even win her own state. But she's still well qualified.

Kinda tough to tell the poster to be reasonable when you’re not being very reasonable yourself.
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Nikki Haley isn't a good candidate.
 
crash2500 said:
You talk to your friends the same way you talked to your attendings in residency? I doubt it. Have you never used the phrases "what's up bro/bruh?" I'm from the South but doing live there anymore. My language as changed but when I go back out talk to my friends from the South I both subconsciously and consciously catch myself using phrases sucks as "y'all"and "ain't" and dropping the g off of words like "going" and "eating." Yes it's an actual thing that people who interact with different groups do.
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When did Kamala live down south?
 
vector2 said:




Everyone's become so numb to it we don't even think about the ridiculous kid gloves trump gets treated with when he goes on his insane rambling monologues.

Some just think "that's trump being trump" instead of wondering whether an unhinged and unrestrained 80 year old who rambles on about 70% price increases and about how "it was caused by their horrible energy wind they want wind all over the place" is fit to serve.
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Trump is Teflon don... As I said in this thread, he is graded on a HUGE curve.

At lot people who are voting for him are using him as a vehicle for their grievance
 
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www.huffpost.com

WATCH: Right-Wing Commentators Accuse Obama Of Using False Accent To Stir Crowd

WATCH: Right-Wing Commentators Accuse Obama Of Using False Accent To Stir Crowd
www.huffpost.com www.huffpost.com

Just rolling out the hits, article from 2012.

"Right-wing commentators on Fox News had a field day Wednesday morning dissecting a newly-revealed tape of President Barack Obama speaking to a mostly black crowd in 2007 at Hampton University in Virginia. Their main charge was that Obama used a false accent and racially-charged language to instill fear in his audience.

"The cadence and his accent and everything is very different from what we hear out of the Rose Garden or anything like that," said Charlie Hurt, a columnist for The Washington Times."
 
Southpaw said:
Harris is well qualified. She's been a state AG, state senator, and VPOTUS. Who was the last Republican candidate as well qualified? Did she win the primary, or even do well? No. Does that take away from her qualifications? No. Is Nikki Haley well qualified? Yes she is. Did she beat Trump in the primary? Nope, didn't even win her own state. But she's still well qualified.

Kinda tough to tell the poster to be reasonable when you’re not being very reasonable yourself.
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Also, I didn't say qualified.

She's qualified technically . She's a natural born citizen and over 35. It's a low bar.

I said she's not a great candidate. If you want to convince yourself otherwise, be my guest.
 
Is anyone here genuinely excited to vote for Kamala Harris? I don’t mean excited just for the sake of voting against Trump. Is anyone here genuinely excited, specifically for a Kamala Harris presidency?
 
GassmanMD said:
Is anyone here genuinely excited to vote for Kamala Harris? I don’t mean excited just for the sake of voting against Trump. Is anyone here genuinely excited, specifically for a Kamala Harris presidency?
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Realistically very few I bet.

But good luck getting some of the posters here too admit it.

Majority of Democrats didn't give her a second thought in her previous run for presidency.
 
GassmanMD said:
Is anyone here genuinely excited to vote for Kamala Harris? I don’t mean excited just for the sake of voting against Trump. Is anyone here genuinely excited, specifically for a Kamala Harris presidency?
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Sure, I am. I'm a big fan of Biden's domestic legislative victories (IRA, CHIPs act, Bipartisan Infrastructure law) and I hope she carries that agenda forward. I largely like her rhetoric on confronting housing costs especially the focus on it being a supply issue. I support YIMBY policies at the local level and (optimistically) if those policies are taken seriously at the national level we might see them get taken up more by Dems at the state and local level if they're seen as 'winning'. There's some evidence of this happening in CA already. I'd like to continue to see the aggressive action at the FTC and NLRB that we've seen under the Biden administration. Given that Thomas and Alito are both in their 70's, it would also be great if Harris nominated some judges as replacements on the chance they croak (assuming Biden's proposed SCOTUS reforms don't go anywhere - although it would be cool if Harris pushed for them, I don't know where she stands on court reform).

As far as foreign policy goes, I think maintaining support for Ukraine is important. She would continue that. I think there's a chance she offers some positive change for the Palestinian people. It sucks Palestinians live under Hamas and I have no idea how to resolve the situation, so I'm not hoping for much there. This could be an opportunity for the US to distance ourselves from the Netanyahu government - which I see as positive.

There's a lot I'm not thrilled with about, but you asked for why I'm excited.

Edit: I should add: the border, abortion, other culture war issues in general, aren't as important to me but I recognize they are important to a lot of people.
 
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anonperson said:
Lol.

Keep worshipping at the altar of the Democratic party.. They can do no wrong according to you.
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I've criticized some of Biden's policies in the past on this forum. I don't expect you to follow every post I make, but what you're saying just isn't true.
 
GassmanMD said:
The question was why I’m excited to vote for Trump, not why I’m excited to vote against Kamala.
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Weird to phrase your support for a candidate as opposition to a policy his opponent no longer advocates for.
 
anonperson said:
Also, I didn't say qualified.

She's qualified technically . She's a natural born citizen and over 35. It's a low bar.

I said she's not a great candidate. If you want to convince yourself otherwise, be my guest.
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Doesn’t really matter to me. You just never really explain your positions well. You just believe what you believe bc you believe it. Kind of like emergentmd.

Haley’s policy beliefs are almost completely in line with Trump’s (except Ukraine and NATO) so while I’d ask you why you think she wasn’t a great candidate, you’d likely pass on a decent explanation.

As a person, Haley is >>> Trump. As a candidate too. But you keep on keepin’ on with ‘wind power, less bacon, sharks, electric motors, and Jan 6’. Not to mention all the crimes and infidelity.
 
MirrorTodd said:
Same question for Trump...
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I think you guys went to law school instead of med school. Seems more about how can I outwit my opponent than actual discussion. Do I assume correctly by you answering a simple question with another question that your actual answer is, No I'm not at all excited about a Harris presidency?

If I were faced with that question I'd say overall I'm excited for Trump's moderate right policies. I'm definitely not excited with all of Trump policy (tax cuts) as well as simply don't have faith in some of the promises that I do like will actually occur such as mass deportation and fiscal responsibility.

I'm not excited about some of the self inflicted errors that would inevitably occur but I would be very excited having a Republican again that fights back against a corrupt media and government. How refreshing when the media plays dirty to hear Trump say, What a STU-pid question from our fake news media. How can one not love that? He's standing up for everybody with those (w)itch slaps.

Trump's represents the disgust we all have, left and right, with our corrupt government spending so much time going after prostitute payments while burying selling influence to our enemies as well as 51 Intel Officers committing gross election interference (I think I read somewhere that's a felony 🤔). Nobody likes to see selective justice and I'd say that's pretty much a universal theme that excites Trump voters.
 
GassmanMD said:
Let me rephrase it: Trump will protect my business interests. Happy?
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But the key issue by which you think Trump will protect those interests doesn't distinguish Trump from his opposition.

Why would you say you prefer Trump because he isn't advocating for Medicare for All, if Harris will protect your business interests in the same manner? You said "nothing else matters".

I'm guessing you just didn't know she wasn't advocating for it anymore.
 
rowsdower88 said:
www.huffpost.com

WATCH: Right-Wing Commentators Accuse Obama Of Using False Accent To Stir Crowd

WATCH: Right-Wing Commentators Accuse Obama Of Using False Accent To Stir Crowd
www.huffpost.com www.huffpost.com

Just rolling out the hits, article from 2012.

"Right-wing commentators on Fox News had a field day Wednesday morning dissecting a newly-revealed tape of President Barack Obama speaking to a mostly black crowd in 2007 at Hampton University in Virginia. Their main charge was that Obama used a false accent and racially-charged language to instill fear in his audience.

"The cadence and his accent and everything is very different from what we hear out of the Rose Garden or anything like that," said Charlie Hurt, a columnist for The Washington Times."
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barack-obama-white-man.gif




Unacceptable that Obama didn't shake the President of Finland's hand like he did that last guy's.
 
rowsdower88 said:
But the key issue by which you think Trump will protect those interests doesn't distinguish Trump from his opposition.

Why would you say you prefer Trump because he isn't advocating for Medicare for All, if Harris will protect your business interests in the same manner? You said "nothing else matters".

I'm guessing you just didn't know she wasn't advocating for it anymore.
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I don’t trust what her campaign manager told politico. Let’s have her explain her ideas, goals, and policy intentions in her own words. So far all I know is that Trump has never threatened any of my business interests. Never mentioned Medicare for all. Never mentioned raising taxes. In fact he lowered mine about $15k a year. And finally, he would never tax my unrealized gains.
 
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