biochemistry - does it count as bio or chem?

[enfuego]

My school offers 2 versions of biochemistry - one through the biology department, and one through the chemistry department. I am taking the chemistry department's version of biochem.

Some dental schools require 3 or 4 semesters of biology, so 1 or 2 extra semesters of bio in addition to the bio1 and bio2 intro classes.
Am I right to assume that my chem version of biochemistry will NOT fulfill the biology requirement?

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[FutureDent020]

My school offers 2 versions of biochemistry - one through the biology department, and one through the chemistry department. I am taking the chemistry department's version of biochem.

Some dental schools require 3 or 4 semesters of biology, so 1 or 2 extra semesters of bio in addition to the bio1 and bio2 intro classes.
Am I right to assume that my chem version of biochemistry will NOT fulfill the biology requirement?

I think it can go either way. As a biology major, I received Biology credit. However, I know it's mandatory for chemistry majors, who most likely receive chemistry credit (i'm not sure about that though). Besides the first section of biochem (acid/ base chemistry), the majority of the concepts seem to focus on biology

 

[enfuego]

Besides the first section of biochem (acid/ base chemistry), the majority of the concepts seem to focus on biology

I agree, it's the same in my class. I'm just wondering if they won't count it as biology for me since my school offers a biology version.

The reason I didn't take the bio version, though, is because it has a KILLER lab with it , and dental schools don't require lab with biochem. The chemistry version does not have lab. That's the only reason I took chem over bio.

 

[BiomajorPreDent]

I don't know of any schools requiring more than 2 semesters of biology. (bio 1 and bio 2). Some schools accept zoology and microbiology or cell biology instead of general bio though.

Alot of schools want upper division science classes. I dont know if those are necessarily supposed to be bio classes even though alot of them are.

I would think biochemistry given by the chem department will satisfy upper division requirements.

If you could show us specific school websites it would be easier.

 

[Extirpator]

I've also never heard of a school requiring extra bio credits specifically... however, if it's a chem class, it will not fufill any bio credit requirement (seems pretty obvious).

 

[THINKOFMYFUTURE]

Chemistry.

In biochemistry there are only the first 3 letters of biology but it has all of chemistry.

 

[enfuego]

I don't know of any schools requiring more than 2 semesters of biology. (bio 1 and bio 2). Some schools accept zoology and microbiology or cell biology instead of general bio though.

I've also never heard of a school requiring extra bio credits specifically.

I'm not applying anytime soon, but I looked up requirements of schools that I might consider applying to:

Alabama - 3 semesters of bio
UOP - 4 semesters of bio
NOVA - 4 semesters of bio (2 regulat semesters and 2 additional classes from a provided list)
Louisville - 4 semesters of bio
BU - 3 semesters of bio
Tennesee - 3 semesters of bio (2 regular semesters 1 additional class from a provided list)

That does not include recommendations to take various other upper-level classes. These are requirements. I'm sure there are other schools I didn't look up that also require extra biology. But please correct me if I'm wrong about any of the school requirements I listed because that would save me a lot of hassle when I plan my class schedules.

 

[DizzleISA]

My school offers 2 versions of biochemistry - one through the biology department, and one through the chemistry department. I am taking the chemistry department's version of biochem.

Some dental schools require 3 or 4 semesters of biology, so 1 or 2 extra semesters of bio in addition to the bio1 and bio2 intro classes.
Am I right to assume that my chem version of biochemistry will NOT fulfill the biology requirement?

if you look at that application categorizations of classes, it says if it is under the category of the department that offers it; therefore, chemistry in your case.

and biochem is kind of a separate entity (doesn't usually count towards bio) --- the classes they're talking about are genetics, cell molec, anatomy, physiology, even ecology... hope this helps

 

[peerless218]

That depends. I asked AADSAS and they told me if the class is offer under the CHEM depart then it's a chem class, if it's under the bio depart then it's a bio class.

 

[enfuego]

That depends. I asked AADSAS and they told me if the class is offer under the CHEM depart then it's a chem class, if it's under the bio depart then it's a bio class.

That's what I figured. Thanks for confirming for me!

 

[Vicviper]

I'm not applying anytime soon, but I looked up requirements of schools that I might consider applying to:

Alabama - 3 semesters of bio
UOP - 4 semesters of bio
NOVA - 4 semesters of bio (2 regulat semesters and 2 additional classes from a provided list)
Louisville - 4 semesters of bio
BU - 3 semesters of bio
Tennesee - 3 semesters of bio (2 regular semesters 1 additional class from a provided list)

That does not include recommendations to take various other upper-level classes. These are requirements. I'm sure there are other schools I didn't look up that also require extra biology. But please correct me if I'm wrong about any of the school requirements I listed because that would save me a lot of hassle when I plan my class schedules.

There really aren't any more than 2 semesters of general biology, and the schools that required more than 2 semesters of "biology" all seemed to count my upper division biology classes (micro, genetics, etc) as counting for that. I really wouldn't worry about this very much. Though I'm extremely confident that your biochem through the chem department will count, I'd suggest you call a school or two - I know Pitt is now requiring biochem this year, so it's something more and more schools are looking at.

 

[FutureDent020]

Chemistry.

In biochemistry there are only the first 3 letters of biology but it has all of chemistry.

You're kidding... right?

 

[enfuego]

There really aren't any more than 2 semesters of general biology, and the schools that required more than 2 semesters of "biology" all seemed to count my upper division biology classes (micro, genetics, etc) as counting for that. I really wouldn't worry about this very much. Though I'm extremely confident that your biochem through the chem department will count, I'd suggest you call a school or two - I know Pitt is now requiring biochem this year, so it's something more and more schools are looking at.

Well, I'm a non-science major, so I have to consciously think about this. I don't have random major classes that would count as science/biology. The only science classes I take are the ones that fulfill pre-dental requirements. I have taken 2 upper-level sciences - one is a biology class, and the other is biochemistry. If biochem doesn't count, then I need to take one more biology course.

The other thing I noticed is that most schools either listed biochem as a separate requirement, or they mentioned biochem as a chemistry class (by saying biochem could serve as an alternative to orgo, or that student should consider taking advance chem classes like biochem). That's when I started thinking my biochem class wouldn't count as biology.

Thanks for that suggestion, though. I will call a few schools and ask them about it.

 

[Vicviper]

Well, I'm a non-science major, so I have to consciously think about this. I don't have random major classes that would count as science/biology. The only science classes I take are the ones that fulfill pre-dental requirements. I have taken 2 upper-level sciences - one is a biology class, and the other is biochemistry. If biochem doesn't count, then I need to take one more biology course.

The other thing I noticed is that most schools either listed biochem as a separate requirement, or they mentioned biochem as a chemistry class (by saying biochem could serve as an alternative to orgo, or that student should consider taking advance chem classes like biochem). That's when I started thinking my biochem class wouldn't count as biology.

Thanks for that suggestion, though. I will call a few schools and ask them about it.

Hmmm... I see what you mean, that could be a bit of a sticky situation. Were you planning on taking say Micro or genetics though?

 

[redchesus]

The classification is really annoying, because it's basically both

I was a biochem major (which was within the school of molecular biology at my school), but I always considered it more chem than bio, it's essentially chemistry applied to biological systems, that's it...

 

[xjmgenius]

i took additional molecular, cell and other bio classes cuz I didn't know whether my biochem classes count as bio