BME's: Have you taken physiology for engineers?

[Belfagor]

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If you have, how was it? I'm considering taking it because my research focus on a lot of BME aspects, and it seems like a fun class to take. Any comments appreciated.

 

[lundysd]

It's a great class -- go for it

 

[Belfagor]

It's a great class -- go for it

How intensive is it in comparison to regular physiology?

 

[gerido]

How intensive is it in comparison to regular physiology?

It depends on the school. Our BME program's physiology did some calculation and modeling using Matlab. There was also some modeling using some other programs, but other than that. My experience is that it is more of calculate for yourself rather than "here's the heart rate". There's also a lot of lit. review too. But again, it depends on the school, check the syllabus out.

 

[jammin06]

agreed, good class. go for it. if there's an accompanying lab, take that as well.

 

[tinkerbelle]

Well where do you go to school? At Hopkins, our physio class is hard as hell.... and way more intense than the physio class for bio majors. I wouldn't have taken it if I didn't have too 😛 Like gerido, we did lots of modelling using Matlab and we did tons of calculations. Perhaps your school is different though.

 

[Starvin Marvin]

Yeah, I definitely think it's worth taking. Probably quite a bit more challenging than the normal bio version. Mine didn't have a whole lot of anatomy and instead just focused on the functions and processes of nervous, circulatory, digestive, etc. systems which hurt me a little on the MCAT. Had to study some anatomy on my own. But still a worthwhile class.

 

[SaginawPremed]

Haven't taken it yet, but the Columbia bulletin says:

BMEN E4001x Quantitative Physiology, I: Cells and Molecules 3 pts. Prerequisites or corequisites: CHEM C3443 or equivalent; BIOL C2005. An introduction to the physical and chemical characteristics of biological systems, with an emphasis on subcellular biology. Thermodynamics of molecular conformational transitions, biomolecule binding and multiunit assembly, reaction kinetics, chemical pathways in cells, physical behavior of polymeric molecules, persistence length, counterion condensation, statistical mechanics of DNA, biological membranes. Topics are treated in a quantitative, mathematically intensive approach.

BMEN E4002y Quantitative Physiology, II: Organ Systems 3 pts. Prerequisites or corequisites: CHEM C3443 or equivalent; BIOL C2005-C2006. Students are introduced to a quantitative, engineering approach to cellular biology and mammalian physiology. Beginning with biological issues related to the cell, the course progresses to considerations of the major physiological systems of the human body (nervous, circulatory, respiratory, renal, digestive, and skeletal).

Professor reviews indicate the course is hard and that the professors like to curve to a B-. Gotta look forward to that! 🙁

 

[veenut]

Haven't taken it yet, but the Columbia bulletin says:

BMEN E4001x Quantitative Physiology, I: Cells and Molecules 3 pts. Prerequisites or corequisites: CHEM C3443 or equivalent; BIOL C2005. An introduction to the physical and chemical characteristics of biological systems, with an emphasis on subcellular biology. Thermodynamics of molecular conformational transitions, biomolecule binding and multiunit assembly, reaction kinetics, chemical pathways in cells, physical behavior of polymeric molecules, persistence length, counterion condensation, statistical mechanics of DNA, biological membranes. Topics are treated in a quantitative, mathematically intensive approach.

BMEN E4002y Quantitative Physiology, II: Organ Systems 3 pts. Prerequisites or corequisites: CHEM C3443 or equivalent; BIOL C2005-C2006. Students are introduced to a quantitative, engineering approach to cellular biology and mammalian physiology. Beginning with biological issues related to the cell, the course progresses to considerations of the major physiological systems of the human body (nervous, circulatory, respiratory, renal, digestive, and skeletal).

Professor reviews indicate the course is hard and that the professors like to curve to a B-. Gotta look forward to that! 🙁

I took QP I+II, wasn't too bad. Second semester should have been more interesting, but Morrison was a pretty horrible teacher. You know who the profs are for next year?

 

[SaginawPremed]

I took QP I+II, wasn't too bad. Second semester should have been more interesting, but Morrison was a pretty horrible teacher. You know who the profs are for next year?

Lance Kam apparently.

I however won't be taking it until the fall of '07, so I wonder what the classes/professor teaching it then will be like.

Any tips? Jumping into BME at Columbia as a 3-2 transferee here.