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Navyanesdoc

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Nov 9, 2009
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Be careful... Not all what its cracked up to be. Know multiple residents and staff there. Be warned, its not all glamour and fun just b/c its MGH :)
 

Tuohy

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Sep 14, 2008
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Be careful... Not all what its cracked up to be. Know multiple residents and staff there. Be warned, its not all glamour and fun just b/c its MGH :)
Oh-believe me, I realize that-have worked in multiple academic centers. They will just find some poor sap of a new grad (someone who absolutely wants to be in Boston) or international specialist to help fill the need.
 

imfrankie

Anesthesiologist
7+ Year Member
Feb 22, 2011
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Oh-believe me, I realize that-have worked in multiple academic centers. They will just find some poor sap of a new grad (someone who absolutely wants to be in Boston) or international specialist to help fill the need.
I have no idea what they pay either. Lot of these places make your business card a significant part of the compensation package. Reputation don't pay the bills.
 

edelweiss

10+ Year Member
Dec 22, 2007
20
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I have no idea what they pay either. Lot of these places make your business card a significant part of the compensation package. Reputation don't pay the bills.
$194,000 for the first year out of residency for full-time clinical. Additional $3,000/year thereafter. :eek: :laugh: :thumbdown:

My friend who got hired for research, when they think they are trying to buff up their research division, is starting at $160. :thumbdown:

In fact there are rumors that the base salary may even be going DOWN because they are in the process of implementing some kind of points/bonus system based on performance evaluations. This adds insult to injury.

They are hiring for several reasons.
- One, because since the new chair started roughly three years ago, there has been a mass exodus of pre-existing faculty due to dissatisfaction with the change. (The old chair was fairly absent but basically turned his head the other way so people did things as they saw fit. The new chair most noticeably stalled contract negotiations so nobody got a raise for 3 years, implemented tons of budget cutting efforts which demoralized people, and created a handful of administrative positions with $80,000 bonuses while everyone else didn't get a raise for three years. In addition, from fear of the economy they severely under-hired a couple years back and all the faculty got severely overworked with long hours and late stays.) Faculty satisfaction went down the tubes and the only way to make up for this is to hire a bunch of new people who don't know what it was like before and don't know any other system.
- Two, because the vast majority of the existing staff are over the age of 50 and they are expecting a mass exodus from retirement over the next 10-15 years.

MGH is a great place to be a resident. The residents are truly what makes the anesthesia department a great thing. The faculty are mostly average, and while there are some excellent role models and teachers many good people have jumped ship in search of 1) better morale, and 2) much better pay.

Medical students, do not let this deter you from seriously considering what I think is one of the BEST residency programs around. I had a wonderful experience during my residency there, loved it and would do it a second time. Anesthesiologists, there are ups but there are also downs so investigate carefully before accepting a job; given nothing other than the worst pay I've ever seen for a full-time anesthesiologist position, you have to really WANT to be there!
 

Tuohy

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10+ Year Member
Sep 14, 2008
141
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$194,000 for the first year out of residency for full-time clinical. Additional $3,000/year thereafter. :eek: :laugh: :thumbdown:

My friend who got hired for research, when they think they are trying to buff up their research division, is starting at $160. :thumbdown:

In fact there are rumors that the base salary may even be going DOWN because they are in the process of implementing some kind of points/bonus system based on performance evaluations. This adds insult to injury.

They are hiring for several reasons.
- One, because since the new chair started roughly three years ago, there has been a mass exodus of pre-existing faculty due to dissatisfaction with the change. (The old chair was fairly absent but basically turned his head the other way so people did things as they saw fit. The new chair most noticeably stalled contract negotiations so nobody got a raise for 3 years, implemented tons of budget cutting efforts which demoralized people, and created a handful of administrative positions with $80,000 bonuses while everyone else didn't get a raise for three years. In addition, from fear of the economy they severely under-hired a couple years back and all the faculty got severely overworked with long hours and late stays.) Faculty satisfaction went down the tubes and the only way to make up for this is to hire a bunch of new people who don't know what it was like before and don't know any other system.
- Two, because the vast majority of the existing staff are over the age of 50 and they are expecting a mass exodus from retirement over the next 10-15 years.

MGH is a great place to be a resident. The residents are truly what makes the anesthesia department a great thing. The faculty are mostly average, and while there are some excellent role models and teachers many good people have jumped ship in search of 1) better morale, and 2) much better pay.

Medical students, do not let this deter you from seriously considering what I think is one of the BEST residency programs around. I had a wonderful experience during my residency there, loved it and would do it a second time. Anesthesiologists, there are ups but there are also downs so investigate carefully before accepting a job; given nothing other than the worst pay I've ever seen for a full-time anesthesiologist position, you have to really WANT to be there!
Wow, thanks for the insight-heard the same thing about Yale as well re: faculty compensation-really low!!!
 

edelweiss

10+ Year Member
Dec 22, 2007
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Is the quoted MGH salary for 4 days/wk?
Yeah, I believe that's for 4 days/week which is the standard work week at MGH (4 clinical + 1 "non-clinical" day). Last time I was there (about a year ago) a typical non-call day started at 7am and ended around 6pm (anywhere from 5:30pm to 6:30pm) so even though it was 4 days a week, those were long days. The vascular and thoracic attendings frequently stayed past 8pm. 6pm was par for the course on the other, more laid-back services like GYN and ortho.
 

nycitygas

ASA Member
7+ Year Member
Jan 6, 2011
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Isnt this a good gig for a brand new attending? I mean 200k for 40-50s hrs a week, interesting case mix, work with residents (max 2 rooms), premier hospital with excellent backup available and ancillary services?
Might get lame after a few years at that salary, but just having MGH on your resume would do more for your career than working your ass off for some partnership that never materializes.
 

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