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My main fear is that I will always feel as if I settled for a mediocre med school and a lower-ranked undergrad.
I think these HSers need a little more perspective.
Wow, testy 'lil underage varmint, ain't he?you're a tool if you don't realize prestige/ranking is a valuable indicator of the quality of a school. and im glad youre on "student/doctor network forums" professing how much you dont give a crap about it.
Projecting much?just deal w/ the fact that you are a gunner.
Truly, you are unconscionably oppressed.and also, congrats on being a dick to a high school student just asking for advice.
Don't worry about it, moomix. I'm sure Junior will eventually get his desserts.im a dick?????...and then you get offended when people call you immature
i'd go to princeton. dominate. then go to princeton med school.
As a pre med at Princeton right now....
GO TO BROWN PLME!!!
ARE YOU NUTS?
You have a guaranteed acceptance into med school. WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU PASS THAT UP?
Princeton is good, but your grades will certainly suffer here. (aka, average GPA at Princeton = 3.4 while the average GPA at Yale = 3.7)
I know I love to say "come to Princeton," but GO TO BROWN.
Honestly I'm surprised by most people's answers. Hmm. In the Northeast Brown doesn't even come close to Princeton in terms of prestige - I don't know how you could really compare them. Of course it goes without saying that both are amazing schools, but not all Ivies are created equal. The Princeton name will help you in med school admissions, despite the huge debate that rages on about the importance of which undergrad you attended.
Don't let the low GPA's and pre-med horror stories scare you. Who cares anyway? Princeton's pre-med classes are hard, but not ungodly. Jeez. Eight years in Providence, RI is a long, long time. I know because I live there now, and it's dull. The weather sucks, there are no cheap sandwich places, no food establishment is open later than 11 pm, and the bar scene on Thayer street is abysmal. Four years at Princeton is, well, fleeting. Yes, I did run into a few tools, but they're everywhere. At the very least, wouldn't you want to go to college somewhere and have the option of going someplace else after a while?
I was in a very similar position to the OP years ago. I was thinking medicine, but majored in English. I actually started pre-med, dropped pre-med, worked for a while, did a post-bacc, and am applying this summer. I've made a lot of stupid decisions in my life, but college, at least, was a blast.
Dude, I don't even think there's much of a difference in med school admissions b/w Princeton and a nonranked state school, muchless between Princeton and any other Top 20 undergrad. The biggest reason for the acceptance rates of different undergrads to med school is the quality of the student body.
There are a billion threads on SDN about whether or not the prestige of one's undergrad institution matters. I used to read those threads until I realized that no one on either side had any conclusive evidence to support their point of view. If the OP likes Princeton better and there's even a little bit of a small chance that the Princeton name might help him out, why shouldn't he take whatever tiny advantages he is lucky enough to lay hands on?
I would venture to guess that most Princeton students (including the post-bac guy who responded above) who contribute to the 50% attrition rate do so because they lose interest in medicine, not because they don't have the aptitude to do medicine. If the OP ends up being one of these 50% of premeds who lose interest in medicine, then he will experience this loss of interest regardless of whether he goes to Brown or Princeton. Moreover, if he *did* lose interest in medicine, it would suck for him to be stuck at a college that he only chose because it guaranteed he would get accepted to medical school. That is why I think the statistic that matters most is the "More than 90% of Princeton applicants get into some med school," not the 50% attrition rate. ~90% odds aren't bad, and I don't think the OP should play it too safe if that means sacrificing some of his happiness at this crucial stage in his life.
Read my post again. If fit is the important factor here, then the OP should go to Princeton. However, if his fixation on the perceived difference in prestige is the factor, then he is making a huge mistake. I think it's generally unhealthy anyway to tie your "happiness" to the prestige of your school. (not that there's a huge difference between Princeton and Brown).
Read my post again. If fit is the important factor here, then the OP should go to Princeton. However, if his fixation on the perceived difference in prestige is the factor, then he is making a huge mistake. I think it's generally unhealthy anyway to tie your "happiness" to the prestige of your school. (not that there's a huge difference between Princeton and Brown)
And I disagree with you that most students drop out of premed because they lose interest. Either that or a lot of people tend to "lose interest" after getting a 2.9.
From reading the OP's post again, it appears his biggest hangup is having to attend a "mediocore" med school and a "lower ranked" undergrad. He says he likes Brown's research opps, student body, and location better. I don't see anything that would warrant passing up PLME for Princeton.
Hey everyone,
I am making a choice due in like a few days (eek!) between Princeton and Brown PLME program...
I am really stuck, because Pton has been my dream school for a very long time and I was hoping to major there in English due to the strength of its department, and also its very prestigious.
However, I am from the Midwest and I want to eventually live on the East Coast. Practically, I will probably get into a Midwest medical school due to my state residency even if I do well applying from Princeton. If I go to Brown, however, I will be in Providence throughout med school, maybe match into a Harvard-affiliated hospital, and only need to keep a 3.0 GPA with no MCATs. Brown also has a lot of affiliated teaching hospitals and I will have more ample opportunity to do research, especially clinical research that I would not have access to at Princeton.
I don't like Princeton's location as much as I like Brown's. I don't like Princeton's students as much as I like Brown's, but I'm afraid to base my decision off of variable, subjective perceptions like those that I gathered from my few days at each school during the admitted students days.
My main fear is that I will always feel as if I settled for a mediocre med school and a lower-ranked undergrad.
What would you do in my position? Does anyone have to/has anyone made a similar choice? Are there any factors I'm not considering?
Hey everyone,
I am making a choice due in like a few days (eek!) between Princeton and Brown PLME program...
I don't like Princeton's location as much as I like Brown's. I don't like Princeton's students as much as I like Brown's, but I'm afraid to base my decision off of variable, subjective perceptions like those that I gathered from my few days at each school during the admitted students days.
My main fear is that I will always feel as if I settled for a mediocre med school and a lower-ranked undergrad.
Hey everyone,
I am making a choice due in like a few days (eek!) between Princeton and Brown PLME program...
I am really stuck, because Pton has been my dream school for a very long time and I was hoping to major there in English due to the strength of its department, and also its very prestigious.
However, I am from the Midwest and I want to eventually live on the East Coast. Practically, I will probably get into a Midwest medical school due to my state residency even if I do well applying from Princeton. If I go to Brown, however, I will be in Providence throughout med school, maybe match into a Harvard-affiliated hospital, and only need to keep a 3.0 GPA with no MCATs. Brown also has a lot of affiliated teaching hospitals and I will have more ample opportunity to do research, especially clinical research that I would not have access to at Princeton.
I don't like Princeton's location as much as I like Brown's. I don't like Princeton's students as much as I like Brown's, but I'm afraid to base my decision off of variable, subjective perceptions like those that I gathered from my few days at each school during the admitted students days.
My main fear is that I will always feel as if I settled for a mediocre med school and a lower-ranked undergrad.
What would you do in my position? Does anyone have to/has anyone made a similar choice? Are there any factors I'm not considering?
I didn't know princeton had a med school.