Buying a car w/ loan money?

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I don't currently own a car, but the city I'm most likely moving to for med school requires one. I would like to buy a used car for under 10K. Here's my questions:

a) I've heard differing opinions about whether federal loans can be applied towards cars...seems like most say talk to your fin. aid dept. and things can be worked out. I'm curious only about people's experiences with federal loans & cars b/c I most likely won't be able to take out private loans (bad credit).
b) If I can use loan money for a car, will I be able to just take out an extra 10K to buy one, or will leasing be my only option?
c) any other thoughts, advice, etc? I'd especially love to hear from students who did buy or lease a car using their loans.

Thanks!
 
As a medical student you are eligible from a total of 38,500 in Stafford loans (this is the rate for 9 months). Beyond tuition, the rest is yours for living expenses and you will be issued a check at the beginning of each semester for the excess you take out past school expenses (which can include insurance if your school has a program).

So, yes you could apply the extra towards a car if you can afford living expenses without this extra money. I plan on taking out enough extra in 3rd and 4th year so that I can have a downpayment on a house or condo for residency. I absolutely hate renting.

The other benefit to taking out this extra money is that you do not have to count this money on your taxes or FAFSA.
 
First of all, they don't track what you buy, so you can buy whatever you want with your loan money.

Second, my school budgets in transportation into our school expenses, roughly $300 per month or so, so it' legit to spend money on a car.

Third, if you want to get a loan to buy a car (not a bad idea, It'd be too expensive to buy one out-right esp $10,000), just go to the bank, show them your pay stubs from whatever job you have now, don't tell them that you are going to quit your job to go to med school, and see what you qualify for. They only base your qualifying amount on money you make now.

Good luck!

PS- I bought a new Scion xA, and I love it.....
 
This might be obvious, but if you go to a private school you won't have federal loan money left to use for cost of living. Of course at many state schools you will have this option. Just thought I'd mention this.
 
tigress said:
This might be obvious, but if you go to a private school you won't have federal loan money left to use for cost of living. Of course at many state schools you will have this option. Just thought I'd mention this.

Federal Loan money, Stafford sub and unsub, are available at most, if not all, US accredited medical schools. It has nothing to do with private/public schools. However, Pell grants, Perkins loans and other random government funds are much more difficult to acquire at private schools than with public ones.

I speak from experience, went to a private school and received Stafford loans throughout my education. I will again use Stafford loans for medical school at my state school.

Edit: Upon re-reading tigress' post I realize the reference to not having extra $$ may have been to shear cost of attendence for private schools v. public schools. The $$ you have extra after paying tuition and fees will depend mostly how expensive your schools is. Private schools tend to be priceier, but some have more private endowments and scholarships so you will not have to rely as heavily on loan money. State schools sometimes lack the 'free' money and reliance on gov't loans is greater.
 
Right, I meant that at most private schools you'll use most, if not all, of your federal loans just to pay tuition and fees. And unfortunately, those of us with middle class parents don't have much chance at institutional aid at most schools (even if we're married! sorry I'm just bitter about that). And of the schools I'm considering now, none offer anything but need-based aid. So basically I have no choice but to pay full tuition with loans, and I think many other students are in the same boat. (But hey, maybe I'm wrong and they will offer me some aid. They haven't offered my husband any,though, and his parents have a lot less than mine.)
 
Buying a car with financial aid money is, at best, not a good idea, and at worst illegal.

First off I'll get on my soapbox and tell you that even though they don't track what you spend your money on dime by dime if you go to get a new car they won't be too keen on giving someone financing or a loan base on your available loan money. Somewhere, somehow your school or the government will be able to piece together that you bought the car with your loan money and I don't think you want to put yourself in that position.

Secondly, please....please do not buy a brand new car. You're already living life at roughly 6% interest now and buying a car (that loses nearly 40% of its value when you drive it off the lot) is not a sound investment. Buying a used car will probably not be any better because of the possibility of major car repairs.

So in the end, if you really want to get a car...all risks aside...go for a lease. This way you're always ensured of having a reliable vehicle, you'll stay under warranty, you won't drive it all that much, and you give it back after medical school or residency anyway.
 
geekOCD said:
I don't currently own a car, but the city I'm most likely moving to for med school requires one. I would like to buy a used car for under 10K. Here's my questions:

a) I've heard differing opinions about whether federal loans can be applied towards cars...seems like most say talk to your fin. aid dept. and things can be worked out. I'm curious only about people's experiences with federal loans & cars b/c I most likely won't be able to take out private loans (bad credit).
b) If I can use loan money for a car, will I be able to just take out an extra 10K to buy one, or will leasing be my only option?
c) any other thoughts, advice, etc? I'd especially love to hear from students who did buy or lease a car using their loans.

Thanks!

i bought a new car at the beginning of my junior year of college (knowing that I would want one that would last me through at least med school). I am halfway through M1 year and I still have about 6 months to go until I have it paid off. My payments are $300/month and I havent had much problems paying them. I am living on about 20k this year (scholarship, grants, & and some loans). Leasing sounds like a good option if you are just starting med school- especially if you will not have to drive many miles (they do limit the amount of miles you drive). The main reason I bought a brand new car is because I have an uncle who is high up in ford and got me a 16000 car for 10000. I couldn't resist.

To summarize your question- it is best to make up a list of your expenses and see if you will be able to afford it, then go from there. It may be easier to get a loan if you have a relative co-sign. Definately do it before med school while you have some income. I was able to get my car w/o co-signer and I was making about 15k/ year at the time and had excellent credit (for my age). You are probably not going to be able to go out and pay cash for the car.
 
if you are able to apply $10,000 (or whatever amount you choose) to the purchase of a car out of the amount that you are allotted for living expenses, then i think you should go for it.

i assume you (op) realize that you will receive a financial aid package that gives a total yearly figure comprised of tution and fees on one hand and a budgeted amount for living expenses on the other. your financial aid package may be all loans, a combination of loans and aid, or all aid (i've never heard of this, but maybe someone has) and will be used to cover the total figure. after your tuition and fees are paid, your university will cut you a check for the amount left over, which represents what you have borrowed and will now use for living expenses. in my opinion, at that point it doesn't matter how that money was originally earmarked: sub, unsub, university alumni loan, etc--i don't care for my purposes. it's still a capped amount based on a maximum that your particular financial aid office defines as the student living expenses budget. you are always free to decline this money--esp since it is usually loan money and you may not need it. you cannot ask for more than the budget, though.

once you get that credit back of all unused monies that have been loaned or gifted to you above and beyond tuition and fees, that money is yours to do what you need. the federal government and universities have better things to do than to track what so-and-so is doing with the $9,000 or whatever he/she gets every semester to live on. it's bad enough that we are expected to live on so little. they budget, for example, $4,000 for room and board, but no one is going to check that you spend exactly $4,000 on room and board, and odn't apply $1,000 to eating out more and buying some nice clothes. that's just for the budgeting process. now perhaps if a pttern emerged that a particular inidividual always asked for the max loan amount and yet seemed to be using the money for quesitonable purposes, that would be cause for investigation. but buying a used car isn't cause for investigation. you will need a car.

but be forewarned, you won't be able to get more than the school's allotted budget through the school. so if you don't need those 10Gs to live, than by all means by something you do need. if you need more than the budgeted amount to live/buy a car/vacation, you'll have to take out a private loan.

i'll also just add that i think leasing a car is a waste of money. you might as well buy a used car. cars depreciate in value, obviously. leasing leaves you in a position of 1)paying more than what the car would cost you if you bought it outright (adding up costs over time), and 2)liable if anything should happen to the car, and 3)unable to re-coup any cost when the deal is done. at least if the car is used and not too run down, you may be able to sell it for something in the end. you don't need a new car, you need a reliable car to get you from a to b. in this country, that is not at all hard to find, since people by new cars like they buy new sneakers (thus selling the not-so-old ones). leasing is a trap, an appearance of capital...much like credit cards. good luck!
 
I bought a new car after graduation that was really nice, only had 3 miles on it. I also graduated 2 yrs ago and have had a good job. I got talked into buying the new car over a used car by my parents and grandaprents. If I wasn't going to a state school where I wasn't going to have to pay rent and had a kick a$$ job from undergrad that I could go back to (library supervisor...get to sit around in the library for 10 hrs 2 days a week and get paid to study), I would regret spending the money on a car.
Sadly, my old car didn't have a working speedometer and the trans was shot so I had to get something. But I would have been happy with a 4 or 5 yr old import (seem to have fewer problems as the age).
Lastly, I think I was told by a few programs that using loan/aid money for a car was not cool. It was recommended that all debt be paid prior to starting school.
GOod luck with what ever you choose.....
 
Thanks everyone for your comments and advice. I'll wait for my financial aid package to see if I can buy a used car outright or if I'll have to lease it. My next concern is about the type of car & safety - anyone have any opinions on what driving in cleveland is like and whether 4WD or AWD is necessary (b/c of the snow/ice/rain), and also whether an suv is preferable or would I be fine in a sedan w/ 4wd/awd?

also, let me note, that I will be a first time driver, so safety and handling are really important to me. (i.e. what the average driver might be fine with might be harder for me)
 
geekOCD said:
Thanks everyone for your comments and advice. I'll wait for my financial aid package to see if I can buy a used car outright or if I'll have to lease it. My next concern is about the type of car & safety - anyone have any opinions on what driving in cleveland is like and whether 4WD or AWD is necessary (b/c of the snow/ice/rain), and also whether an suv is preferable or would I be fine in a sedan w/ 4wd/awd?

also, let me note, that I will be a first time driver, so safety and handling are really important to me. (i.e. what the average driver might be fine with might be harder for me)

If you're going to be living in Cleveland proper than I'd say that getting 4WD isn't going to help you out much. They usually keep the roads pretty well groomed and since you'd be driving on surface streets I'd take the better gas milage of a regular FWD. Also cars and SUVs have their own unique safety concerns, for a FIRST TIME driver i'd recommend getting a 4 door sedan (2 door = pain in the butt) over a truck or SUV because getting used to being "top heavy" takes practice. One of my buddies from college rolled his brand new Escape on an off ramp because he didn't slow down enough.

Also if you live in the upper midwest I strongly recommend the engine block warmer (better for cold weather starts). You can get car mats for cheaper than the dealership (usually 50+ bucks). Go with a locking gas cap and wheel locks (gas is/will be expensiveand tires are always in demand). ABS is nearly REQUIRED for up north here (don't pump your brakes in a skid though with ABS!).

Other than that it's really personal preference, I can't personally justify the extra 700 bucks for "side curtain" airbags to you but driver side airbags on all cars are now standard.

One final plug, for someone on a medical student's budget I'd go with a Saturn. Fairly low priced cars with pretty good track record (mine has over 215,000 miles on it w/ no major problems).
 
you can definetly buy a car using loan money... like has been said you'll get a check at the beginning of the semester (or whenever your financial aid office disburses the money) and you can use that money for whatever you want... Heck, I used some of the money to go to Disney last summer. I wouldn't try to pay cash for the car though, you do need that money to live on (don't want to get kicked out of your apartment, and eating is good too), but most schools will budget in money in your budget for transportation costs. Some schools you might need a car more than others... that'd be something to find out before you choose a school.
 
You can spend excess loan money on whatever you want, theoretically (and for some people, practically), but buying a car is not what your educational loans are for.

Noticeably, you are asking a bunch of students about this, who can justify anything, instead of the people you should be asking, like your school's financial aid office or federal loan agents. I suspect it is because you know that your school's financial aid office will strongly discourage you or straight out forbid you (and keep an eye on your loan habits) if you asked them directly.

Federal loans are primary meant for tuition, and to some extent books and boarding (but some educational loans don't even stipulate room and board under what they cover). If you truly want your conscience clear, you should ask your financial aid office or apply for a private loan - otherwise there is a risk that choosing to use federal money to pay for a car will mean you are committing an illegal act.
 
fotolilith said:
Federal loans are primary meant for tuition, and to some extent books and boarding (but some educational loans don't even stipulate room and board under what they cover). If you truly want your conscience clear, you should ask your financial aid office or apply for a private loan - otherwise there is a risk that choosing to use federal money to pay for a car will mean you are committing an illegal act.

Technically, schools don't budget money for buying a car -- at least none of the schools I've interviewed at have. However, educational loans are meant to cover all your educational expenses, including room, board, tuition, books, traveling between home and school. Otherwise, schools wouldn't be able to include that stuff in their budget. If you'll check, you'll see that transporation is included in the cost of attendance at virtually every school, so I doubt it's anything approaching fraud to choose to live in a cheaper place and buy a car with your loan money.

Also, realistically, attendance at some schools would be impossible without a car, especially during your clinical years. Lots of schools are in cities with public transporation so poor that it's not a practical option.
 
AStudent said:
Buying a car with financial aid money is, at best, not a good idea, and at worst illegal.

That is absolutely untrue. "Transportation" is included in my school budget, and because the campus is a few miles from affordable housing, the "transportation" allocation is significant. I am fairly certain my school did its homework before building a few thousand dollars into our budgets every year so that we can afford cars (as many students didn't have cars that were paid for when they matriculated).

My advice is to look at your school budget and see if you can afford to live on what they will allow you if you make a car payment every month. If you need a car (and you probably eventually will) then make the purchase.
 
fotolilith said:
choosing to use federal money to pay for a car will mean you are committing an illegal act.


umm yeah, most schools will give you additional money to live on from these federal loans that is actually... meant... for you to live on! transportation is a cost of living. hence... not illegal. they may greatly frown upon it because they don't want you to compromise your living situation. But there is nothing wrong with doing it, as long as you can still provide yourself the necessities. I mean, saying it is illegal to buy a car with your living money is like saying all the med students going to the bar, that buy candy, that go see a movie, and/or bought condoms did something illegal. :laugh:
 
Take all of your financial aid and go to Vegas. Bet it all on one spin of the wheel. If you win... you're set.
 
fotolilith said:
You can spend excess loan money on whatever you want, theoretically (and for some people, practically), but buying a car is not what your educational loans are for.

Noticeably, you are asking a bunch of students about this, who can justify anything, instead of the people you should be asking, like your school's financial aid office or federal loan agents. I suspect it is because you know that your school's financial aid office will strongly discourage you or straight out forbid you (and keep an eye on your loan habits) if you asked them directly.

Federal loans are primary meant for tuition, and to some extent books and boarding (but some educational loans don't even stipulate room and board under what they cover). If you truly want your conscience clear, you should ask your financial aid office or apply for a private loan - otherwise there is a
risk that choosing to use federal money to pay for a car will mean you are committing an illegal act.

This is simply not true. Federal loans are meant to "cover educational expenses" of which is included obviously housing, food, entertainment, transportation, and computers, books, etc. This is why your financial aid office budgets all of these things in, including transportation and entertainment funds, and you can borrow federal loans to cover those costs. You are free to legally spend oyur loan money on covering the costs of education, and a car payment may be one of those costs. I am pretty sure it is illegal to pay off other credit cards/accounts with these loans, but even that I am not sure is illegal. If you read the stafford loan contract it is very vague on what you can spend money on. I think they are pretty lenient and as long as you aren't doing something ridiculous I am quite sure you will be fine.
 
Alexander Pink said:
I am pretty sure it is illegal to pay off other credit cards/accounts with these loans, but even that I am not sure is illegal. If you read the stafford loan contract it is very vague on what you can spend money on. .

I hope not!! I tend to buy everything on my credit card so that I can budget more effectively and see where my money is going. I could see not using the money to pay off several thousands of dollars with of debt, but I don't think using excess living expenses/personal/entertainment/transportation funds would be too bad.
 
geekOCD said:
Thanks everyone for your comments and advice. I'll wait for my financial aid package to see if I can buy a used car outright or if I'll have to lease it. My next concern is about the type of car & safety - anyone have any opinions on what driving in cleveland is like and whether 4WD or AWD is necessary (b/c of the snow/ice/rain), and also whether an suv is preferable or would I be fine in a sedan w/ 4wd/awd?

also, let me note, that I will be a first time driver, so safety and handling are really important to me. (i.e. what the average driver might be fine with might be harder for me)


Let me guess??? Cleveland Clinic?? I interviewed there last year and the impression I got was that a car was necessary.

Get a car while you still have a job, or get your parents to get one for you then pay them for it. Do not "lease". Also when buying a car, never pay full sticker/asking price. Always do your research.

If you don't get 4WD and are in the Midwest, front wheel drive is a must. Rear Wheel drive cars just can't plow through the snow as well and need to be weighed down in the back during winter.

Engine block, excellent Idea.

Learn how to drive in the snow (if not from snowy areas or have not had experience) from someone who does. Do not be the person who thinks that you can still drive 80 when there is an inch of snow and ice on the road. Also, go to abandoned lots and learn what happens when you skid/slide and how to manuver out of them. It's a lot of fun.......

Good luck!
 
I'm still a student so getting a car now unfortunately won't work, and getting the money from home isn't an option. Given that I most likely won't have a huge chunk of cash left over in my financial aid package, it looks like leasing may pretty much be my only option (unless I buy a car that only costs like 2K). I've been doing research on leasing and it doesn't look that bad, especially since I was only planning on keeping the car for 4 years, max. Learning how to drive in snow worries me (I've got to learn how to drive first!) but hopefully I can get a classmate from a snowy area to help me out before big snow hits cleveland.
 
geekOCD said:
I'm still a student so getting a car now unfortunately won't work, and getting the money from home isn't an option. Given that I most likely won't have a huge chunk of cash left over in my financial aid package, it looks like leasing may pretty much be my only option (unless I buy a car that only costs like 2K). I've been doing research on leasing and it doesn't look that bad, especially since I was only planning on keeping the car for 4 years, max. Learning how to drive in snow worries me (I've got to learn how to drive first!) but hopefully I can get a classmate from a snowy area to help me out before big snow hits cleveland.

it is important that you learn how to drive in absence of snow before snow. i cannot imagine learning how to drive in the winter with snow (although I know people that have).

anyways, i think the best thing i did to learn how to drive in the snow was going to large empty parking lots with friends and screwing around (beware of light poles). Although this is probably illegal (so i cannot recommend it), we would do donuts, turn quickly, e-brake turns, and do a lot of things in these parking lots that was a lot of fun... and kind of crazy. but i think we learned a lot about how a car will react on snow and ice... and how to control it.

the best thing to know about driving in the snow for a beginner is to drive slower than you think you need to, do not make any sudden movements (switching lanes quickly), do not be the fastest driver (try and match the speed of someone driving a similar vehicle), do not drive during big storms if you can avoid it, make sure you completely brush all snow & ice off your car before you start driving (headlights too), alwaystry to put at least 2-3 "car spaces" in between you and the person in front of you, always give yourself plenty of time to break (double the normal amount of time needed), drive in the right lane on the highway, do not pass people, if you have antilock breaks then just hold the break down. if you have regular breaks, repetively pump the break to stop (especially if you feel yourself slipping). give yourself plenty of time to get to your destination so u are not rushing.
 
Oh and as a note to the OP regarding going into a parking lot and doing doughnuts to practice skid control:

-If you have a front wheel drive vehicle you have to drive in REVERSE to do doughnuts. :laugh: at my friend in high school who tried to do doughnuts with her front wheel drive going forward...."i just can't get it to skid!"
 
I have both a front wheel 03 honda and a rear wheel drive 89 mercury cougar... I must say the cougar is a LOT more fun to do donuts in. ok, seriously, it's time for me to log off and study. 🙂
 
AStudent said:
Buying a car with financial aid money is, at best, not a good idea, and at worst illegal.


So in the end, if you really want to get a car...all risks aside...go for a lease. This way you're always ensured of having a reliable vehicle, you'll stay under warranty, you won't drive it all that much, and you give it back after medical school or residency anyway.
Uh, why would it be illegal? I do agree with you that people are frivolous with their loan money (buying a condo???), but a lease is not a better idea. Then you're paying off a loan for something you don't even have anymore!
 
AStudent said:
Oh and as a note to the OP regarding going into a parking lot and doing doughnuts to practice skid control:

-If you have a front wheel drive vehicle you have to drive in REVERSE to do doughnuts. :laugh: at my friend in high school who tried to do doughnuts with her front wheel drive going forward...."i just can't get it to skid!"

regarding front-wheel drive, you can also do a quick turn while pulling/pushing down the emergency brake at the same time... this swings the back end around into a donut-like motion. but not as fun as putting it into reverse and doing dounts.
 
fun8stuff said:
regarding front-wheel drive, you can also do a quick turn while pulling/pushing down the emergency brake at the same time... this swings the back end around into a donut-like motion. but not as fun as putting it into reverse and doing dounts.

well..i decided to live at home for my first year and buy a car. I traded in my current car and bought a new one using about 15K of my parents money...which then i repayed with my loan money...so technically, my parents bought the car, its in their name, and i just paid them for "rent"( haha its quite expensive). but its legal🙂 now i have a nice 06 nissan maxima🙂
 
drguy22 said:
well..i decided to live at home for my first year and buy a car. I traded in my current car and bought a new one using about 15K of my parents money...which then i repayed with my loan money...so technically, my parents bought the car, its in their name, and i just paid them for "rent"( haha its quite expensive). but its legal🙂 now i have a nice 06 nissan maxima🙂

cool. the only thing about this is that you don't get to build up your credit as you would if you had bought the car yourself. but, doing it this way can be convenient though. for example, if it is under their name you can get cheaper insurance, however this wouldn't technically be legal.
 
Are you going to have substantial private loans in addition to your stafford loans? Just keep in mind that any extra money from your stafford loans is disbursed to you in equal thirds if youre on quarters or equal halves if youre on semesters. It's not like you actually get x dollars per month like they outline for you in the budget. For example, I go to a public school on quarters and I had just as much money to live on from Aug-Dec as from Jan-middle of March because that's when the quarters begin and end. Also, moving in itself can be expensive. I wouldn't commit yourself to a car (leasing, financing or buying outright) until you're positive youll have enough cash.
 
unoriginal said:
cool. the only thing about this is that you don't get to build up your credit as you would if you had bought the car yourself. but, doing it this way can be convenient though. for example, if it is under their name you can get cheaper insurance, however this wouldn't technically be legal.
y isnt it legal...my parents are paying for my insurance too (they really are). and my credit score is in the high 700's out of 800 or so...no problem there!
 
drguy22 said:
y isnt it legal...my parents are paying for my insurance too (they really are). and my credit score is in the high 700's out of 800 or so...no problem there!


i meant that if your parents buy the car, it would be easier for them to put their names down as the primary driver. i was assuming that you were paying the insurance yourself. They would most likely be able to get a cheaper insurance rate if they were listed as primary driver. This, however, is fraud and not legal.

What have you done to get high credit? You know, you don't automatically start out with good credit and it takes more than a few credit cards and checking accounts to get it that high... i.e. house or car payment.
 
unoriginal said:
i meant that if your parents buy the car, it would be easier for them to put their names down as the primary driver. i was assuming that you were paying the insurance yourself. They would most likely be able to get a cheaper insurance rate if they were listed as primary driver. This, however, is fraud and not legal.

What have you done to get high credit? You know, you don't automatically start out with good credit and it takes more than a few credit cards and checking accounts to get it that high... i.e. house or car payment.

nothing really...my dad got me a credit card when i was 16, and then when i was 18 i got my own card. Slowly the credit card company kept increasing my limit (presently it stands at $19,000 on one and 8K on another) so pretty much, my parents let me make some of their big purchases on my card and then they pay it off by the end of the month. My parents dont believe in paying the minimum balance. It either u have the money to pay for it at the end of the statement date or you dont buy it at all. so i think b/c i dont have any outstanding balances my score is soo high.

I checked my credit score by paying a small amount of money. I was pretty amazed as well.

As far as the car insurance goes, im listed as a driver in both new cars. luckily i dont have to pay for my insurance🙂 and I wont have to till im 25 when my rates go down! 👍
 
drguy22 said:
nothing really...my dad got me a credit card when i was 16, and then when i was 18 i got my own card. Slowly the credit card company kept increasing my limit (presently it stands at $19,000 on one and 8K on another) so pretty much, my parents let me make some of their big purchases on my card and then they pay it off by the end of the month. My parents dont believe in paying the minimum balance. It either u have the money to pay for it at the end of the statement date or you dont buy it at all. so i think b/c i dont have any outstanding balances my score is soo high.

I checked my credit score by paying a small amount of money. I was pretty amazed as well.

As far as the car insurance goes, im listed as a driver in both new cars. luckily i dont have to pay for my insurance🙂 and I wont have to till im 25 when my rates go down! 👍


i guess i should check mine...
 
drguy22 said:
so i think b/c i dont have any outstanding balances my score is soo high.
Not true, really. Your credit is higher if you utilize a smaller portion of your available credit (and having $25K of credit means you probably rarely use even a double digit percentage of what's available). The CC's only report whether or not you're "OK/Not OK" for your payment that month. You don't get more points for paying off the balance vs. paying the minimum.
 
geekOCD said:
I'm still a student so getting a car now unfortunately won't work, and getting the money from home isn't an option. Given that I most likely won't have a huge chunk of cash left over in my financial aid package, it looks like leasing may pretty much be my only option (unless I buy a car that only costs like 2K). I've been doing research on leasing and it doesn't look that bad, especially since I was only planning on keeping the car for 4 years, max. Learning how to drive in snow worries me (I've got to learn how to drive first!) but hopefully I can get a classmate from a snowy area to help me out before big snow hits cleveland.


Why not get a used toyota or honda for around 11,000-12,000. Put that $2,000 you have down, and get a loan through capital one or eloan. I got a six year loan of $12,600 for only $222 a month (although I plan to pay it off in like two years). If you lease, then you are basically losing that money. If you buy a reliable, used car, then you are making an investment.
 
JohnUC33 said:
If you lease, then you are basically losing that money. If you buy a reliable, used car, then you are making an investment.
Just a minor comment here: technically, you don't really lose any money from a lease that you wouldn't if you bought the same car new and then sold it at the end of the lease period. If you do the calculations, you find that lease payments are equivalent to taking out a loan for only the expected depreciation on the car while you own it. In other words, if you want to drive a $30,000 car for three years, and the manufacturer projects that at the end of that period it will be worth 60% of the initial value, you will "use" $12,000 of the car's value, and that's what you'd pay for with a lease. If you bought it at the beginning and sold it at the end, you would come out exactly even with a lease.

The important thing here is that lease payments do appear lower since you are only paying for a fraction of the car's value, and either way, you can't get around the large depreciation that occurs when buying a new car. For this reason, especially if you plan to keep the vehicle for more than 3-4 years, buying a used car is probably a better bet long-term.
 
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