California Northstate University

[MaenadsDance]

My campus's pre-med chapter hosted a guest speaker from California Northstate University, which supposedly will be opening a new, for-profit MD school in 2014. Having heard zilch about it here on pre-allo, I was pretty suspicious. The speaker himself was a very plausible, knowledgeable guy (I liked him, actually - a good salesman because of how little he resembled a salesman). However, a little bit of googling turns up a lot of shady info, especially over on the pre-pharmacy forums here at SDN:

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=915119

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=931914

The admissions rep himself admitted they were having LCME accreditation issues.

Anyone here on pre-allo know more about this outfit? I smell BS, personally. Looks like a place that would take your money and then fold six months later, with you SOL.

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[MaenadsDance]

MD version of rocky vista? US version of Ross?

That's the impression I got, yes.

 

[Ravizzle]

I heard they were having even their pharm school pass accreditation. Also a cardiologist I shadowed mentioned once that someone from the school offered him a teaching job for the future med school and $500 to write the syllabus for the class he would teach. He laughed the dude off of course.

This again is what the doc told me, could be exaggeration and also I think maybe the doc misunderstood and maybe the offer was like $500 an hour bc $500 to write a whole syllabus would be absolutely ridiculous.

Sent from my Galaxy S2, I think. But I don't really know, I'm just a lowly premed.

 

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I heard they were having even their pharm school pass accreditation. Also a cardiologist I shadowed mentioned once that someone from the school offered him a teaching job for the future med school and $500 to write the syllabus for the class he would teach. He laughed the dude off of course.

This again is what the doc told me, could be exaggeration and also I think maybe the doc misunderstood and maybe the offer was like $500 an hour bc $500 to write a whole syllabus would be absolutely ridiculous.

Sent from my Galaxy S2, I think. But I don't really know, I'm just a lowly premed.

They were hiring not too long ago.

http://scjobs.sciencemag.org/jobs/2...iversity-College-of-Medicine-Elk-Grove-CA-USA

Job Description
California Northstate University is in the process of establishing a College of Medicine (CNUCOM) in the Sacramento, California, area. The institution is in the process of seeking accreditation by the Liaison Committee on Medical Education (LCME) and anticipates matriculating its first class of students in the summer of 2013. The curriculum will use a horizontally- and vertically-integrated interdisciplinary clinical presentation approach whereby students will use clinical presentations as the framework within which basic and clinical science knowledge is built. To this end, medical education will be taught by an integrated basic science and clinical faculty for the first two years. In the third and fourth years, a community-based, longitudinal clinical training model is being adopted.

The description is useless. It reads like nonsense marketing-speak that doesn't mean ****.

 

[MaenadsDance]

They were hiring not too long ago.

http://scjobs.sciencemag.org/jobs/2...iversity-College-of-Medicine-Elk-Grove-CA-USA



The description is useless. It reads like nonsense marketing-speak that doesn't mean ****.

The rep I saw speak tonight was talking up "clinical-based learning" as somehow being unique and distinct from "patient-based learning", saying that their model is based on a European approach, etc etc. Honestly it sounded like their curriculum was designed to hide a lack of rigor, but I am a suspicious soul.

 

[Ravizzle]

They were hiring not too long ago.

http://scjobs.sciencemag.org/jobs/2...iversity-College-of-Medicine-Elk-Grove-CA-USA



The description is useless. It reads like nonsense marketing-speak that doesn't mean ****.

Nice find. That part is probably true. But offering $500 to write the curriculum? I think either the doc misunderstood the offer or these ppl are delusional.

Sent from my Galaxy S2, I think. But I don't really know, I'm just a lowly premed.

 

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The rep I saw speak tonight was talking up "clinical-based learning" as somehow being unique and distinct from "patient-based learning", saying that their model is based on a European approach, etc etc. Honestly it sounded like their curriculum was designed to hide a lack of rigor, but I am a suspicious soul.

Sounds like they hired too many marketing consultants to blow hot air, and not enough MDs/PhDs to do real work and actually design a curriculum.

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[as1212559]

wouldbemajorlyskeptical/10

That said if it opens, it will fill a class of good CA applicants, who will perform and match well.

 

[sinombre]

It'll be very interesting to see if this pans out. I heard about this a year or two ago and haven't heard anything since.

 

[appleman123]

I especially like that the dean of Northstate was fired from his prior post

http://lubbockonline.com/stories/092807/loc_092807066.shtml

"Baldwin has been president of the Health Sciences Center for about four weeks and oversees the Lubbock medical school, the El Paso medical school and six other Tech campuses in Texas.

He said he fired Suskind, 69, because he repeatedly refused to follow instructions, gave false information and behaved erratically.

Suskind, in his letter, which is addressed to Tech Chancellor Kent Hance, wrote he was fired without cause.

"I came to El Paso to work without stop for a year. For my efforts, I have been humiliated and demeaned," he wrote in the letter dated Sept. 25.

"Like many others, I find the decision to fire me incomprehensible," he wrote."

 

[oldstock]

My campus's pre-med chapter hosted a guest speaker from California Northstate University, which supposedly will be opening a new, for-profit MD school in 2014. Having heard zilch about it here on pre-allo, I was pretty suspicious. The speaker himself was a very plausible, knowledgeable guy (I liked him, actually - a good salesman because of how little he resembled a salesman). However, a little bit of googling turns up a lot of shady info, especially over on the pre-pharmacy forums here at SDN:

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=915119

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=931914

The admissions rep himself admitted they were having LCME accreditation issues.

Anyone here on pre-allo know more about this outfit? I smell BS, personally. Looks like a place that would take your money and then fold six months later, with you SOL.

wow

 

[DermViser]

wow

 

[hoihaie]

lol wat. is that school still alive?

 

[DermViser]

lol wat. is that school still alive?

Apparently: http://www.bizjournals.com/sacramento/news/2014/02/18/calif-northstate-university-med-school.html

http://www.bizjournals.com/sacramen...l-school-elk-grove-front-burner.html?page=all

“We are absolutely moving forward with our planning,” medical school president and CEO Alvin Cheung said Monday.

He declined to comment further, saying past coverage of the school by the Business Journal was unfair. Calls to other school executives, the school’s lawyer and other backers were not returned. Dr. Robert Suskind, hired as dean more than 18 months ago, remains on staff but referred calls to the lawyer.

 

[allantois]

Should have applied through COCA; would be enrolling 200 students for the next class by now

 

[northernlights15]

What are the chances of them being accredited by 2016?? For the 2016-2017 admissions cycle.

 

[Judgment Dragon]

What are the chances of them being accredited by 2016?? For the 2016-2017 admissions cycle.

They are already accredited. Their 1st class is Fall 2015.