Can i just quit? Repercussions?

[ski89]

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No, I said I will work the next 3 weeks.

To be fair, I was doing the type of lab work that a lot of PIs don't really have time for. A lot of procedural, grunt work. Now he has to either do it or outsource it to post-doctoral fellows who also don't have time to do it. Or he has to find an undergrad or another replacement; which I frankly don't find difficult to do b/c undergrads literally have their mouths watering for these opportunities. I even offered to train the replacement. Maybe I should have drafted a letter or email first, but I just did it in person, which perhaps wasn't as eloquent as could be.

I'm a little annoyed, not going to lie. I never even asked for a LOR from this lab so working there essentially didn't even go on my application! I didn't get completely berated or anything but his comments were a little offensive. But oh well. Now I have 40 hours of more free time a week.

Well what's done is done so there is not much utility in dwelling on your decision. Nevertheless this is SDN so here I go...

I find it strange that you quit the one job that most people said you should keep out of the three. After all, in my experience it takes a lot more effort to train a new lab member than it does to hire a new EMT or scribe. You said it was a time thing, but it sounds like either way you would be working around 40 hours a week. But whatever, i'm sure you have your reasons.

That being said, I think your PI's reaction was largely the result of you springing this news on him in the middle of a busy day (presumably) with no time for him to reflect on your situation and how this decision will ultimately impact him over the next few months (which could potentially be minimal if you were to train a replacement over the next month for example). Take this as a learning experience, as this was not the wisest way to resign from this position (IMHO).

Don't sweat it too much though. I think you definitely needed the time to recuperate before the fall.

SMH. What do you mean by "gave him my resignation"? Did you first meet with him to discuss the time strain you're under and how to come to a resolution? Or did you just hand him your 2 weeks notice with a letter of resignation? The latter is super shallow in that situation, and his reaction is certainly justified.

It doesn't really matter if there's a legal contract or not. Professional conduct is not based on whether something is legally binding. I've held summer research positions for money and never signed a contract, but we agreed I would work X day to X day. One summer I found out that my sublet was up 1 week before the end of my designated work period, so I met with my PI to come to an agreement about how to handle that last week I wouldn't be there. Because work still had to be done, and I made that commitment to be there.

And my goodness, it's not selfish that your PI expected you to fulfill your commitment. It's not his fault that you bit off more than you can chew. Also I definitely would have kept the research and dropped 1-2 of the other things.

Yeah I have to agree with this. As I mentioned in my first post on this tread OP, the nature of lab work, the complexities involved, and the time sensitivity that is often at play, are all reasons why this particular commitment was the most important. As others have mentioned, your employment with scribe or EMT companies are typically "at will", which in my opinion makes it much more reasonable and completely professional to give proper notice and quit as a better opportunity came up (namely the opportunity to refresh your batteries before starting your journey to become a physician). Again, this is somewhat trivial as the deed is done, but perhaps this will be food for thought as your navigate the rest of your career. Good luck OP, I'm still happy to be working with you in 2019 when we become physicians!

 

[Ismet]

I'll believe it when I'm an attending. But a large part of life is trying to have a strong application. So many premeds force themselves to do research and other things to even have a shot at being competitive. I hear residency application is not much different, so I have to hop on that bandwagon too eventually.

But that doesn't mean that you only do things that look good on an application and stop when no one is looking.

 

[ridethecliche]

Yeah, good job OP... You quit the one job people said you should probably not quit.....

 

[Ace Khalifa]

OP, is it okay if we ask you why you chose to quit the research instead of the other 2? Was the long commute for the research job only?

 

[ski89]

Yeah, good job OP... You quit the one job people said you should probably not quit.....

LOL, thanks for the succinct summary of my post.

 

[Ace Khalifa]

But that doesn't mean that you only do things that look good on an application and stop when no one is looking.

I never said that. Of course you should stay committed for the appropriate duration (I'll need to quit my scribe job and hospice volunteering in May), but it's a lot harder to continue to commit when you over-commit at first. The premed rat race causes this to happen; I've seen it too often during my time in undergrad.

 

[Ismet]

I never said that. Of course you should stay committed for the appropriate duration (I'll need to quit my scribe job and hospice volunteering in May), but it's a lot harder to continue to commit when you over-commit at first. The premed rat race causes this to happen; I've seen it too often during my time in undergrad.

You said, "Also, why keep the research if it was grunt work and not going to help your application anyway?"

 

[ski89]

"Also, why keep the research if it was grunt work and not going to help your application anyway?"

My guess is that he took all these positions out of a desire to keep his app strong in the case that he needed to reapply. Needless to say he was a little over zealous to this effect (and he learned to hard way - which happens to the best of us I think).

Edit: Oh, and I don't think he would have presented it as grunt work in AMCAS (even if it was ;-P)

 

[Ismet]

My guess is that he took all these positions out of a desire to keep his app strong in the case that he needed to reapply. Needless to say he was a little over zealous to this effect (and he learned to hard way - which happens to the best of us I think).

Edit: Oh, and I don't think he would have presented it as grunt work in AMCAS (even if it was ;-P)

I was quoting Ace Khalifa from earlier in the thread. On mobile so I couldn't figure out a quote response to a quote loll

 

[ski89]

I was quoting Ace Khalifa from earlier in the thread. On mobile so I couldn't figure out a quote response to a quote loll

haha, sorry. I was wondering what the quotes were for lol.

 

[Ace Khalifa]

"Also, why keep the research if it was grunt work and not going to help your application anyway?"

Before we enter an endless loop, I'll just say that research is not required to get into medical school. Also, OP said this research job was not on his application. I don't see the problem with him quitting it, other than the fact that the way he did it was too short-notice.

 

[DoctorLacrosse]

what's with the professionalism thing? I mean people agree to work from X date to Y date and get laid off from their jobs all the time. do bosses say "hey, lets figure out how you're going to pay your bills while you find a new job"? not at all, they don't care, just as you shouldn't if you really feel you're burning out. why should it be any different because the roles are reversed?

yes OP should have handled it much differently (by not quitting on the spot with no notice at all), but if you feel you need to enjoy life before school starts, then I think you have the right to do that.

 

[MattSmith45]

OP, is it okay if we ask you why you chose to quit the research instead of the other 2? Was the long commute for the research job only?

No, the commute is unfortunately 1.5 hours each way for all my jobs because all my jobs are at 1 university.

I decided to quit my research post because it was the most stressful out of the three and took up the most time. ER Scribe & EMT are less stressful and more "fun." I know that research probably has more beneficial long term implications but honestly I can't see myself doing basic science research in medical school; I would much rather do clinical research, case reports, etc.

In the end, I just did what made me feel most happy. I know people here told me to keep my research position and that is something I contemplated for a long time, but in the next couple months I just wanted to do things that more or less didn't involve much 'brain power.' Research does, but being a scribe or EMT - not really.

 

[Ace Khalifa]

No, the commute is unfortunately 1.5 hours each way for all my jobs because all my jobs are at 1 university.

I decided to quit my research post because it was the most stressful out of the three and took up the most time. ER Scribe & EMT are less stressful and more "fun." I know that research probably has more beneficial long term implications but honestly I can't see myself doing basic science research in medical school; I would much rather do clinical research, case reports, etc.

In the end, I just did what made me feel most happy. I know people here told me to keep my research position and that is something I contemplated for a long time, but in the next couple months I just wanted to do things that more or less didn't involve much 'brain power.' Research does, but being a scribe or EMT - not really.

Excellent reasons. I don't see myself doing basic science research in medical school either, only clinical (and lots of med students only do research to become competitive, not because they like it or want to go into academia). Enjoy your reduced work hours, and good luck with medical school when it starts, future colleague!

 

[blackroses]

No, the commute is unfortunately 1.5 hours each way for all my jobs because all my jobs are at 1 university.

I decided to quit my research post because it was the most stressful out of the three and took up the most time. ER Scribe & EMT are less stressful and more "fun." I know that research probably has more beneficial long term implications but honestly I can't see myself doing basic science research in medical school; I would much rather do clinical research, case reports, etc.

In the end, I just did what made me feel most happy. I know people here told me to keep my research position and that is something I contemplated for a long time, but in the next couple months I just wanted to do things that more or less didn't involve much 'brain power.' Research does, but being a scribe or EMT - not really.

I'm going to respectfully say that if you're actually practicing as an EMT I would sincerely hope that you realize that it does, in fact, take "brain power," and that if you think it doesn't, I'm rather concerned for your patients.

 

[MattSmith45]

I'm going to respectfully say that if you're actually practicing as an EMT I would sincerely hope that you realize that it does, in fact, take "brain power," and that if you think it doesn't, I'm rather concerned for your patients.

I didn't mean to offend you. There are spectrums of EMT training and scopes of practice. I am at the lowest, where my training does not allow me to break skin. I'm essentially qualified to use oxygen, various inhalers, and medication that the patients ALREADY have on their persons to treat them. I also do some bandaging and splinting. When you have senior EMTs or paramedics on your team, you are really just following directions. Not much autonomy there. What I do is not difficult at all.

But more so, I'm a university EMT where a large proportion of my calls deal with intoxicated 19 y/o students who just need an ETOH level and a wait on sobriety. You aren't really using brain cells to deal with these patients...

Again, my experience is not representative of all EMTs. That's why I made the comment that it doesn't take much brain power to do my job, which is absolutely true. I have a friend who is an EMT for a hospital across the city, and he sees much more trauma and has much more responsibility.

 

[cyclopes93]

No, the commute is unfortunately 1.5 hours each way for all my jobs because all my jobs are at 1 university.

I decided to quit my research post because it was the most stressful out of the three and took up the most time. ER Scribe & EMT are less stressful and more "fun." I know that research probably has more beneficial long term implications but honestly I can't see myself doing basic science research in medical school; I would much rather do clinical research, case reports, etc.

In the end, I just did what made me feel most happy. I know people here told me to keep my research position and that is something I contemplated for a long time, but in the next couple months I just wanted to do things that more or less didn't involve much 'brain power.' Research does, but being a scribe or EMT - not really.

I think the point of it all isn't that just because the other party has the capability to manipulate, so should you. Just because lay offs happen without anyone telling that you are off a job doesn't mean you should behave like an unprofessional too. I think that this is the very reason people turn into jerks. Anyways, the OP clearly had a lapse in judgement because you should always send an email before you approach an individual. I am not saying that dropping EMT or the other ec would have not upset the person in charge, but you had a great opportunity and you decided to drop it without giving any notice. Just because the PI can hire more undergrads doesn't mean that he will. After what happened, I don't believe he will appoint any others unless he is extremely sure of their motives. Anyways, next time if you really want to talk in person, make sure you act with respect and don't think them as your buddy because point in case is that they are your boss. We undergrads have this tendency but it takes moments like these that make you feel angry, confused, agonized at the same time. You just have to know that people outside of our family will not be like our parents who actually care for us as human beings; because maybe in the advent of thinking of ourselves we forget about the other person. Don't feel bad, get up and enjoy every moment and start doing things that actually matter to you.

 

[Ismet]

what's with the professionalism thing? I mean people agree to work from X date to Y date and get laid off from their jobs all the time. do bosses say "hey, lets figure out how you're going to pay your bills while you find a new job"? not at all, they don't care, just as you shouldn't if you really feel you're burning out. why should it be any different because the roles are reversed?

yes OP should have handled it much differently (by not quitting on the spot with no notice at all), but if you feel you need to enjoy life before school starts, then I think you have the right to do that.

Bolded is what can be seen as unprofessional. But to each his own opinion. Doesn't really matter at this point, but hopefully OP learned how to handle these things for future reference so he doesn't burn further bridges.

If you get fired from your job without any notice, you have every right to be angry. Just like this PI had every right to be angry in this situation.

 

[mehc012]

Bolded is what can be seen as unprofessional. But to each his own opinion. Doesn't really matter at this point, but hopefully OP learned how to handle these things for future reference so he doesn't burn further bridges.

If you get fired from your job without any notice, you have every right to be angry. Just like this PI had every right to be angry in this situation.

I'm not sure why everyone keeps saying OP quit without notice. That was brought up as a possible explanation for the PI's behavior, initially, but OP responded right away to say he gave 3wks notice.

No, I said I will work the next 3 weeks.

 

[DoctorLacrosse]

Bolded is what can be seen as unprofessional. But to each his own opinion. Doesn't really matter at this point, but hopefully OP learned how to handle these things for future reference so he doesn't burn further bridges.

If you get fired from your job without any notice, you have every right to be angry. Just like this PI had every right to be angry in this situation.

apparently that's been cleared up and he gave 3 weeks notice (assuming that's correct ^^). so IMO, he did nothing wrong.

 

[Ismet]

I'm not sure why everyone keeps saying OP quit without notice. That was brought up as a possible explanation for the PI's behavior, initially, but OP responded right away to say he gave 3wks notice.

apparently that's been cleared up and he gave 3 weeks notice (assuming that's correct ^^). so IMO, he did nothing wrong.

There's no point in beating a dead horse, as it's clear everyone has different opinions of how things should be handled. But looking at it from the PI's perspective, even if OP said he would work the next 3 weeks, his resignation was probably completely unexpected. I would be annoyed in that instant too. All I'm saying is that for someone who specifically said he didn't want to burn bridges, he went about it the wrong way.

 

[DoctorLacrosse]

There's no point in beating a dead horse, as it's clear everyone has different opinions of how things should be handled. But looking at it from the PI's perspective, even if OP said he would work the next 3 weeks, his resignation was probably completely unexpected. I would be annoyed in that instant too. All I'm saying is that for someone who specifically said he didn't want to burn bridges, he went about it the wrong way.

I don't think there's anything more you have to do than give a few weeks notice and move on. like I said, no one cares when the roles are reversed and people lose their jobs. but like you said it's all subjective, everyone can agree to disagree.

 

[cyclopes93]

I don't think there's anything more you have to do than give a few weeks notice and move on. like I said, no one cares when the roles are reversed and people lose their jobs. but like you said it's all subjective, everyone can agree to disagree.

Height of immaturity. You are not a boss yet, you do not know what it feels like when you have someone just part ways when you clearly don't have a back up. I know that we undergrads are cheap labor but if you are going to be a doctor you will be a leader at some point and this attitude of responders is awful. 3 weeks in my opinion is not enough as a personal notice. I would have notified the PI 2 months beforehand as med school is still some great ways away from march. Even if you don't like the job, you need to always put yourself in the other person's shoes. Stop playing with the "eye for an eye" rule with this layoff example. OP could have slowly released responsibility by asking for reduced hours and then eventually quitting.

 

[DoctorLacrosse]

Height of immaturity. You are not a boss yet, you do not know what it feels like when you have someone just part ways when you clearly don't have a back up. I know that we undergrads are cheap labor but if you are going to be a doctor you will be a leader at some point and this attitude of responders is awful. 3 weeks in my opinion is not enough as a personal notice. I would have notified the PI 2 months beforehand as med school is still some great ways away from march. Even if you don't like the job, you need to always put yourself in the other person's shoes. Stop playing with the "eye for an eye" rule with this layoff example. OP could have slowly released responsibility by asking for reduced hours and then eventually quitting.

height of immaturity? you don't know me. judging by your username (1993?) I have some years on you, and have probably experienced much more than you. I've been in both positions in different fields. I've been in management positions where I had to be the one telling an employee that their services are no longer required while they contemplated how they're paying the rent this month. I've also had to work triple shifts to cover for employees who quit the day of. the bottom line is people do what is best for them, especially at lower level positions like the OP most likely held.

there is no right and wrong answer, just opinions. every single person agreed the OP could have handled this much differently, but at the end of the day what he did is considered acceptable in the professional world ("2 weeks notice" rule) whether you like it or not. the real height of immaturity is thinking everyone on here is a 20 year old with no life experience, as well as thinking your opinion is fact.

 

[cyclopes93]

height of immaturity? you don't know me. judging by your username (1993?) I have some years on you, and have probably experienced much more than you. I've been in both positions in different fields. I've been in management positions where I had to be the one telling an employee that their services are no longer required while they contemplated how they're paying the rent this month. I've also had to work triple shifts to cover for employees who quit the day of. the bottom line is people do what is best for them, especially at lower level positions like the OP most likely held.

there is no right and wrong answer, just opinions. every single person agreed the OP could have handled this much differently, but at the end of the day what he did is considered acceptable in the professional world ("2 weeks notice" rule) whether you like it or not. the real height of immaturity is thinking everyone on here is a 20 year old with no life experience, as well as thinking your opinion is fact.

I think I am just more concerned about not burning any bridges, respecting other people, and looking at things optimistically. I always try to plan ahead even after having a lot on my plate; this candidate didn't do that. I have been in research for almost 5 years now and I know the impact it has in the lab, so if you want to assume immaturity based on my age, I don't think you should worry. Managing techniques and advices differ from people to people and on the status of a business and I can certainly tell you that research and real life work outside academia are 2 very different phenomenons. In academia, you don't have people just drop everything and leave, which I have noticed at workplace. I was referencing the "layoff example" as "height of immaturity". I thought that was a bad example and a better example would have been how despite OP relaying his burdensome life, his boss does not agree to ease his hours. If there is no understanding in the OP's employer relations, then I would consider it to be a good choice to leave.

 

[DoctorLacrosse]

I think I am just more concerned about not burning any bridges, respecting other people, and looking at things optimistically. I always try to plan ahead even after having a lot on my plate; this candidate didn't do that. I have been in research for almost 5 years now and I know the impact it has in the lab, so if you want to assume immaturity based on my age, I don't think you should worry. Managing techniques and advices differ from people to people and on the status of a business and I can certainly tell you that research and real life work outside academia are 2 very different phenomenons. In academia, you don't have people just drop everything and leave, which I have noticed at workplace. I was referencing the "layoff example" as "height of immaturity". I thought that was a bad example and a better example would have been how despite OP relaying his burdensome life, his boss does not agree to ease his hours. If there is no understanding in the OP's employer relations, then I would consider it to be a good choice to leave.

I worked in research for three years myself, and again I've experienced the same things in that field as any other working position. We even had our head research nurse up and leave to take a higher paying position. she gave her two weeks notice and was out the door because the offer had an expiration date. do people get angry? absolutely. but these things happen and you can't crucify someone for acting in their own best interest. OP realized he was very unhappy, his chance to enjoy life was running out, and he made the decision to move on. could it have been better (in most people's opinions)? sure. but what he did isn't a crime, there's no right or wrong, period.

I gave the layoff example to show that people make decisions for themselves on both sides. his PI could have easily said "hey bud we no longer need you, take care", and no one would have thought anything about it. I was playing devils advocate and showing you that it happens both ways.

if you can act "respectfully", then by all means do it, but not every case allows you to give three months notice. not everyone wants to continue suffering when they can just get out. so again... your opinion is not fact. it's just an opinion, as is mine. I'm not "immature" for having an opinion different from yours, but you thinking so is what is immature. I hope that your "everyone acts purely out of optimism and respect for one another" state of mind remains intact after getting some real world experience. that's all I'm saying.

 

[bc65]

OP: Thanks for providing the follow up. You did the right thing. Of course the PI is angry, that's to be expected. He will probably get over it. It's reasonable that he's angry, but you were still right to quit. Or to put it another way, you should feel bad about quitting, but quitting was still the right thing to do .

If I were you, I would quit the scribe job as well, but do what feels best.

Employers will always get angry when people quit, regardless of circumstances. When a surgeon I know had emergency surgery, and called that day immediately after the surgery to let the department chief know, the chief yelled at him for being irresponsible by calling in sick. Another doctor I know had to quit his job suddenly due to the acute onset of a severe neurologic condition, and his physician boss demanded that he work anyway, even though he couldn't use his arm ( in a procedure based specialty). Bosses will be angry when employees call in sick or quit. That doesn't mean that they are justified. Two weeks notice is enough.

 

[beachside]

Height of immaturity. You are not a boss yet, you do not know what it feels like when you have someone just part ways when you clearly don't have a back up. I know that we undergrads are cheap labor but if you are going to be a doctor you will be a leader at some point and this attitude of responders is awful. 3 weeks in my opinion is not enough as a personal notice. I would have notified the PI 2 months beforehand as med school is still some great ways away from march. Even if you don't like the job, you need to always put yourself in the other person's shoes. Stop playing with the "eye for an eye" rule with this layoff example. OP could have slowly released responsibility by asking for reduced hours and then eventually quitting.

I agree with your argument, but someone born in '93 should not be accusing others of immaturity. There's nothing immature about giving 3-weeks notice. Is it kind of a dick move? Absolutely. Immature? No.

 

[NeuroMaster316]

OP you did good, don't feel bad about anything. Professionalism? Really? He's expendable, his a$$ could have been laid off and people would have said "well that's life OP". He gave a 3 weeks notice, that's enough time to find a replacement and enough of an action to show " professionalism".
Case closed, good job OP.

 

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[Chansey]

My PI was pretty annoyed and disappointed with me because although there was no legal contract, I did tell him last June that I would work through this June. He had made plans to look for a replacement accordingly. When I gave him my resignation, our conversation wasn't very pleasant. He made references on how it is shallow and unprofessional of me to do this (our lab is quite busy and I do contribute a large workload). So, suffice it to say, I did come out of that conversation feeling very disappointed in myself and overall sour about the situation. There are also others in the lab who were disappointed with my actions.

You did the right thing. When you said you quit your research job, I knew this was exactly how your PI would react. This is a common attitude in academia, unfortunately. You handled your resignation professionally. There was nothing else you could do. It's not you - it's them.

I'm in a similar boat. I'm very jealous you could quit without repercussions. If I quit, my PI is the kind of person who might actually contact all of my schools, talk **** about me, and withdraw his letter (which was a generic form letter that he put no effort into). FML.

 

[Ace Khalifa]

You did the right thing. When you said you quit your research job, I knew this was exactly how your PI would react. This is a common attitude in academia, unfortunately. You handled your resignation professionally. There was nothing else you could do. It's not you - it's them.

I'm in a similar boat. I'm very jealous you could quit without repercussions. If I quit, my PI is the kind of person who might actually contact all of my schools, talk **** about me, and withdraw his letter (which was a generic form letter that he put no effort into). FML.

Your PI sounds like a dick. Doesn't he know he can't force you to keep working for him? Just tell him "I'm out unless you want to deal with my lawyer;" that's what I would do.

 

[Chansey]

Your PI sounds like a dick. Doesn't he know he can't force you to keep working for him? Just tell him "I'm out unless you want to deal with my lawyer;" that's what I would do.

You have no idea... I swear when all of my med school decisions come out, I'm going to start a "PIs from Hell" thread to vent. And you're right, if he does contact my schools, suing for defamation ain't a bad idea.

 

[Ace Khalifa]

You have no idea... I swear when all of my med school decisions come out, I'm going to start a "PIs from Hell" thread to vent. And you're right, if he does contact my schools, suing for defamation ain't a bad idea.

He's probably just jelly you're gonna become an MD (assuming he's just a PhD). Lol I'm doing research in med school solely for the purpose of becoming a competitive applicant for residency programs in a very highly competitive specialty. Ain't no way I'm gonna work under a PI who forces me to stay in his/her lab after I'm done with the experience and production I needed.

 

[beachside]

Before we enter an endless loop, I'll just say that research is not required to get into medical school. Also, OP said this research job was not on his application. I don't see the problem with him quitting it, other than the fact that the way he did it was too short-notice.

It's not required, but it's certainly helpful. I believe I was asked about research experience at every interview.

By the way, OP mentioned before that he quit the research position due to the other two jobs being more enjoyable. I don't think there's anything wrong with that, as long as you to it the right way. Obviously OP did a poor job of resigning, but lesson learned.

 

[Lifeman]

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[Lifeman]

In this job market employers can lay some one off in a moment's notice but if the employee looks out for his own well-being, he is being immature? It's similar to an employee quitting for a better job. It would be foolish not to for loyalty's sake.

 

[Psai]

He's probably just jelly you're gonna become an MD (assuming he's just a PhD). Lol I'm doing research in med school solely for the purpose of becoming a competitive applicant for residency programs in a very highly competitive specialty. Ain't no way I'm gonna work under a PI who forces me to stay in his/her lab after I'm done with the experience and production I needed.

Bad attitude to have, I suggest that you drop it

 

[cyclopes93]

It's funny the amount of comments opposing my view and telling me that it isn't a fact (when I really didn't mean to have it considered one quite so earnestly) when really you are all beating a dead horse and using the "layoff example" to strengthen your opinions and convert them as facts.

I'll turn this around and say these are opinions. Let's stop with the advice giving cause we all get it lol.

 

[DoctorLacrosse]

It's funny the amount of comments opposing my view and telling me that it isn't a fact (when I really didn't mean to have it considered one quite so earnestly) when really you are all beating a dead horse and using the "layoff example" to strengthen your opinions and convert them as facts.

I'll turn this around and say these are opinions. Let's stop with the advice giving cause we all get it lol.

no ones using the example to "convert our opinions into facts", we're doing it to show that there's another point of view. you told me I was immature for disagreeing with you and also told me I don't know what certain things are like when I actually do, so if that doesn't scream "I think I'm right", I don't know what does.

clearly many hold an opinion quite different from yours so you should keep that in mind the next time you try to insult someone without knowing anything about them. that's all.

 

[PIacebo]

Cut back your hours or take a leave for a month to yourself and come back. Either that or completely quit. You aren't asked to give updates after accepted into med school so do what makes you happy.

 

[cyclopes93]

no ones using the example to "convert our opinions into facts", we're doing it to show that there's another point of view. you told me I was immature for disagreeing with you and also told me I don't know what certain things are like when I actually do, so if that doesn't scream "I think I'm right", I don't know what does.

clearly many hold an opinion quite different from yours so you should keep that in mind the next time you try to insult someone without knowing anything about them. that's all.

I'm sorry but I still think that you launched a bad example. That is my opinion. I don't know anything about you and I did not mean to call you particularly immature; just the example if that is clear.

 

[DoctorLacrosse]

I'm sorry but I still think that you launched a bad example. That is my opinion. I don't know anything about you and I did not mean to call you particularly immature; just the example if that is clear.

you're fully entitled to that opinion. it looks like myself and a bunch of others in this thread disagree with you completely about that, which is perfectly fine. to each their own. best of luck to you.