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Opinion | The Deceptive Campaign for Bivalent Covid Boosters
Studies show they fail to live up to their promise, but vaccine makers and experts keep pushing them.
www.wsj.com
This a “dog bites man” story… don’t we see this every day in oncology?Opinion | The Deceptive Campaign for Bivalent Covid Boosters
Studies show they fail to live up to their promise, but vaccine makers and experts keep pushing them.www.wsj.com
And the esteemed WSJ pandering to anti-vax opinion writer holds a degree in.... American History. Lol @WSJ.This a “dog bites man” story… don’t we see this every day in oncology?
Yep. Apparently it was fine to mandate MMR and polio vaccines back in the day. But definitely not now, makes total sense obviously.Let the stupids die off by touting their pure blood idiocy. Or letting fear of myocarditis override common sense of avoiding death.
Whatever. Public health is a joke here in the USA. It should have been enforced to get the vaccine. Instead, grandma (and grandpa and auntie) died. Oh well, who won the playoff games again?
I think there is now healthy skepticism regarding the incremental benefits of 4 shots over say 2 or especially 3, and for those who have experienced a toxicity from one of their previous shots (rare but does happen), certainly reasonable to hold off on additional shots, especially if otherwise healthy.
Hospitals nationwide are not in perpetual fear of collapse. Well - they are, but not because of COVID.
In theory, the 4th shot (depending on how low your antibody levels are - which again partially depends on when your third shot / covid was), would lower your chance of getting covid, if you came in contact with someone who has it.This is one of the craziest medical things and it makes me sad to see polarization of doctors over the 4th vaccine.
I have 3 shots and had COVID. I spend a lot of time with my partner who is high risk. All I want is for someone to tell me the benefit of the 4th shot for someone like me. The benefit has to be scientific and show benefit to me OR her, not moral. No one seems to be able to do it. The FDA authorization memo does not make me feel better, they are pretty honest that there is essentially no clinical data. My job also currently doesn't require it.
It's such a low bar!
This shot has the same level of evidence as topical biryani oil for preventing RO oversupply.
Is there even solid data that the first 2 shots reduce risk of transmission? My impression was there is clear reduction in disease severity/hospitalization rate but no change in risk of infection. Given this, it would be hard to see boosters reducing risk of transmission and certainly nearly all the data for boosters is flimsy mice studies showing it induces antibody response. But of course everything is so muddy on this topic it’s hard to even know where to look for evidence
When you're a single doc, not testing positive or having symptoms is equally as important as not having a miserable experience with COVID. I do what I can to not test positive, even if I knew I'd be asymptomatic. A 5 day vacay would be nice, though. I don't really think further trials are necessary at this point. It's rational to think that a booster reduces your chances of being infected for a short period of time. The side effect is I might buy some m&Ms at the drug store while I wait. Nbd, and not really worth talking about any more IMHO.
In theory, the 4th shot (depending on how low your antibody levels are - which again partially depends on when your third shot / covid was), would lower your chance of getting covid, if you came in contact with someone who has it.
That again would mean that the chance of you transmitting covid to your high risk partner would be lower.
But yes, scientifically speaking, there is no evidence that in your case, the 4th shot would influence any clinical outcomes for you (and probably your partner too).
I caught covid around 6 months after my 3rd shot. I was at home, but it wasn't fun, last time I felt that bad was when I had the flu more than 10 years ago. It was unpleasant.
I had my 4th shot 6 months after I had covid, did not want to go through it again and there was quite the scare in November that the winter would be "bad", epidemic-wise, over here. I don't know if it was a good choice or not. I don't know what I am going to do next fall.
i doubt there are many left on earth who are either unvaccinated or did not have covid (at least subclinically).Nobody at a recent major indoor sporting event I attended wore masks. Nobody. I think the public is done. Unless we see a wave of death wash over, its the flu now for the vaccinated (but still a very real risk for those unvaccinated).
The fact that people tore each other to shreds over public health doesn't bode well for the next crisis. Like an Ebola or god forbid some other lab experiment gone loose.
While a lot of grandma's were eliminated sadly, so were a lot of anti-science anti-vax *****s. You can't win'm all.
Amen to thisThe fact that people tore each other to shreds over public health doesn't bode well for the next crisis. Like an Ebola or god forbid some other lab experiment gone loose.