Can you go into research with just an MD?

[lmay0001]

Im thinking of getting my MD and going directly for PhD without residency? is this possible

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[Swish16]

Waste of time and money. Look into an MD/PhD combined program


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[drwoofs]

Yes you can do research with just an MD. You don't even need the PhD to do so. If you are really interested in getting a PhD talk to your program about getting into the MD/PhD program. Assuming your school has one.

 

[eteshoe]

Im thinking of getting my MD and going directly for PhD without residency? is this possible

Agree w/ the comment about looking at the dual degree pathway at your institute (if it has one). And while you do not need a PhD to do basic science research (if that's your goal), you do need a solid amount of protected research time to develop your scientific toolbox and get data for some of the early career grants. This time could also be done in a postdoc, research yrs, or fellowship during/after your residency training.

If you honestly cannot see yourself practicing medicine, why go after the MD? Or are you asking if you can do an MD -> PhD -> residency? Option two would be crazy to even attempt.

 

[lmay0001]

Let me elaborate on the post. So my "wanting" to become a doctor started when i was 2/3years old, my first book was "the human body" and a skeleton that i used to build everyday for 2 years. After A levels i entered into Pharmacy as i was facinated by drugs and how these effect disease. During my Pharmacy ward rounds i saw 1st hand that Pharmacists are limited at their job. After 4 years of Pharmacuetical Science i got a BSC(Hons) and after 1 year i obtained a Masters of Pharmacy:Clinical Pharamcy.

Started working as a Pharmacy manager in 2013 and got bored why you ask??? I was basically doing Accounts, selling vitamins that i personally never agreed to sell as i taught they where utter crap and convincing my patients that the drugs they were taking were good for them. in 2015 i decided to enter Med school and got accepted.

Up till now my grades are AAA and BBB apart from clinical skills where i always get crap grades. (I suck at inserting ven flows, never seem to get the vein!!!)

While studying Cancer biochemistry and genetics i got facinated at the mechanisms involved in Cancer. and asked my slef damn i would really want to do a PhD on this stuff. Reason being a cure is better then current treatment.

Bdw Residency does not worry me, Residents get paid well in Malta AND my MD course is free (I I actually get a stipend for doing the MD course!!!) so i have absolutely no debt.

 

[lmay0001]

Agree w/ the comment about looking at the dual degree pathway at your institute (if it has one). And while you do not need a PhD to do basic science research (if that's your goal), you do need a solid amount of protected research time to develop your scientific toolbox and get data for some of the early career grants. This time could also be done in a postdoc, research yrs, or fellowship during/after your residency training.

If you honestly cannot see yourself practicing medicine, why go after the MD? Or are you asking if you can do an MD -> PhD -> residency? Option two would be crazy to even attempt.

I am confused hence my question. I currently dont know if im cut out for residency. I get really good grades in the Science subjects and Diagnosis ect... but clinical skills wise i suck, i never seem to cannulate well, i cant insert catheters and get severe stress when i have to do some cutting.

 

[eteshoe]

I am confused hence my question. I currently dont know if im cut out for residency. I get really good grades in the Science subjects and Diagnosis ect... but clinical skills wise i suck, i never seem to cannulate well, i cant insert catheters and get severe stress when i have to do some cutting.

I had assumed you were a US med school student. Since I'm not familiar with the european system, I'd suggest you check out the International forum for more info. If money isn't an issue to you then I guess you're free to do whatever you want.

 

[pramirez184]

Im thinking of getting my MD and going directly for PhD without residency? is this possible

Yes. I know of at least two MDs who do research without a PhD. One at UAB's medical school and one at MD Anderson. Each run their own labs.

 

[Goro]

This.

Yes you can do research with just an MD. You don't even need the PhD to do so. If you are really interested in getting a PhD talk to your program about getting into the MD/PhD program. Assuming your school has one.

 

[Omppu27]

Why not just get the PhD?