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Whenever there is a post regarding Canadian DS, the usual comment that follows is how insanely competitive it is to gain acceptance. The usual gpa mentioned is a 3.9. Without question such a high gpa would make Canadian ds the envy of its counterparts in the U.S., not to mention medical and other professional schools. While such a high gpa is possible it would mean that Can applicants/enrollees are able to achieve far higher academic standards, have a much higher applicant pool and have grades that are clustered closely to the mean with a much lower standard deviation.
The hype over high admission stats appears to be unfounded, making the unabashed claim to superiority deserving to be placed in a league of its own for myths perpetrated through the forum. Admission stats for Can ds are difficult to come by. It is not clear if the paucity of information found in the 2007 (4 responded) and 2008 (one) is due to the inability of the ds to get their act together in time to send the info to ADEA or because it is a closely guarded secret. To date, telephone and e-mail requests from Montreal and Laval have been unsuccessful.
The mean gpas for Can ds are reported (*12, *13, *14, *15) as (1) a percentage, (2) a 4- point scale or (3) a letter grade (Dalhoise). The lack of standardized grading system in Canada is even worse when universities are taken into account. There are 8 different grading systems to choose from. (*1)
There are 2 major problems with the claim of 3.9 mean gpa for Can ds enrollees: 1. Only 2 Canadian ds actually show mean gpas of 3.9- Manitoba at 3.9 and Toronto at 3.95. Even throwing in Alberta (3.78), McGill (3.78)(*2) and Dalhoise (A- or 3.7) that still leaves 3 dental schools with down to earth claims- Saskatchewan (89.1), UWO (84.75) and BC (83). 2. Canadian and U.S. percentages required for grades of A and differ significantly. In the U.S. the usual range for an A is 90-100 while in Canada it is either from 80-100 or from 86-100. (*3) It should be noted that grades for a B also vary widely; from a 65-79 (Newfoundland/Lab) to 70-79 (Quebec). Quebec has a passing mark at 60% while other provinces have it at 50%.
There is also great deal of variation from province to province. (*4) While Wiki may not be the most authoritative source of information, there are other reliable sources (*5, *6, *7, *8, *9, *10, *11) that support the ranges mentioned.
*1.http://admissionsync.com/2007/10/03/canadian-university-college-gpa-grading-systems/
*2. http://redbooks.sus.mcgill.ca/index.php/McGill_Dentistry
*3. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academic_grading_in_Canada
*4. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grade_(education)#Canada
*5. http://redbooks.sus.mcgill.ca/index.php/GPA_conversion#_note-6
*6. http://people.uleth.ca/~daniel.odonnell/Academic-Policies/letter-grades-and-percentage-equivalents
*7. http://www.ouac.on.ca/omsas/pdf/c_omsas_b.pdf
*8. http://gradadmissions.osu.edu/profile/Canada-Quebec.pdf)
*9.http://www.yorku.ca/rocal/calendars/2007-2008/ASrules/grading_system.htm
*10.http://www.cirtl.net/DiversityResou...llabi/Cochrane_Calgary_Sci_Tech_Soc_40101.pdf
*11.http://www.athabascau.ca/policy/registry/undergraduategradingpolicy2002.htm
*12.http://www.usask.ca/dentistry/admissions/admission_stats.php?heading=menuAdmissions
*13.http://www.med.ualberta.ca/education/ugme/admissions/dofd_stats.cfm
*14.http://www.dentistry.ubc.ca/academic_programs/dmd/entrance_statistics/2007.asp
*15.http://www.schulich.uwo.ca/dentistry/docs/Statistics_Class2012.htm
*16.http://www.etudes.umontreal.ca/publications/guideAdmission/2009-2010/Section10.pdf
*17.http://web4.uwindsor.ca/units/regis...FriendlyView/6AC7CC1DAE37CF7485256D36004C7671
*1. http://admissionsync.com/2007/10/03/canadian-university-college-gpa-grading-systems
The hype over high admission stats appears to be unfounded, making the unabashed claim to superiority deserving to be placed in a league of its own for myths perpetrated through the forum. Admission stats for Can ds are difficult to come by. It is not clear if the paucity of information found in the 2007 (4 responded) and 2008 (one) is due to the inability of the ds to get their act together in time to send the info to ADEA or because it is a closely guarded secret. To date, telephone and e-mail requests from Montreal and Laval have been unsuccessful.
The mean gpas for Can ds are reported (*12, *13, *14, *15) as (1) a percentage, (2) a 4- point scale or (3) a letter grade (Dalhoise). The lack of standardized grading system in Canada is even worse when universities are taken into account. There are 8 different grading systems to choose from. (*1)
There are 2 major problems with the claim of 3.9 mean gpa for Can ds enrollees: 1. Only 2 Canadian ds actually show mean gpas of 3.9- Manitoba at 3.9 and Toronto at 3.95. Even throwing in Alberta (3.78), McGill (3.78)(*2) and Dalhoise (A- or 3.7) that still leaves 3 dental schools with down to earth claims- Saskatchewan (89.1), UWO (84.75) and BC (83). 2. Canadian and U.S. percentages required for grades of A and differ significantly. In the U.S. the usual range for an A is 90-100 while in Canada it is either from 80-100 or from 86-100. (*3) It should be noted that grades for a B also vary widely; from a 65-79 (Newfoundland/Lab) to 70-79 (Quebec). Quebec has a passing mark at 60% while other provinces have it at 50%.
There is also great deal of variation from province to province. (*4) While Wiki may not be the most authoritative source of information, there are other reliable sources (*5, *6, *7, *8, *9, *10, *11) that support the ranges mentioned.
*1.http://admissionsync.com/2007/10/03/canadian-university-college-gpa-grading-systems/
*2. http://redbooks.sus.mcgill.ca/index.php/McGill_Dentistry
*3. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academic_grading_in_Canada
*4. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grade_(education)#Canada
*5. http://redbooks.sus.mcgill.ca/index.php/GPA_conversion#_note-6
*6. http://people.uleth.ca/~daniel.odonnell/Academic-Policies/letter-grades-and-percentage-equivalents
*7. http://www.ouac.on.ca/omsas/pdf/c_omsas_b.pdf
*8. http://gradadmissions.osu.edu/profile/Canada-Quebec.pdf)
*9.http://www.yorku.ca/rocal/calendars/2007-2008/ASrules/grading_system.htm
*10.http://www.cirtl.net/DiversityResou...llabi/Cochrane_Calgary_Sci_Tech_Soc_40101.pdf
*11.http://www.athabascau.ca/policy/registry/undergraduategradingpolicy2002.htm
*12.http://www.usask.ca/dentistry/admissions/admission_stats.php?heading=menuAdmissions
*13.http://www.med.ualberta.ca/education/ugme/admissions/dofd_stats.cfm
*14.http://www.dentistry.ubc.ca/academic_programs/dmd/entrance_statistics/2007.asp
*15.http://www.schulich.uwo.ca/dentistry/docs/Statistics_Class2012.htm
*16.http://www.etudes.umontreal.ca/publications/guideAdmission/2009-2010/Section10.pdf
*17.http://web4.uwindsor.ca/units/regis...FriendlyView/6AC7CC1DAE37CF7485256D36004C7671
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Canadia Dental Schools Statistics
Applic Enroll Gpa
Alberta 395 34 3.85
BC 353 37 83
Mani 285 29 3.9
Dalhoi 461 36 A- (3.7)
Toronto 565 66 3.95
UWO 671 54 84.75
McGill 460 30 3.78
Montl 728 85
Laval 423 48
Saskat 303 28 89.1
3931 362
*1. http://admissionsync.com/2007/10/03/canadian-university-college-gpa-grading-systems
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Can Grading Systems
G Sys #of Sch
0-4 11
0-4.3 26
0.4.5 1
0-9 2
0-10 3
0-12 4
0-13 1
0-100% 20
Code:
BC Newf/Lab Seska
90100 A+ 90-100 A+ 90-100 A+
8389 A 85-89 A 90-89 A
8082 A- 80-84 A- 80-89 A
7679 B+ 75-79 B+ 70-79 B
7275 B 70-74 B 60-69 C
6871 B- 65-69 B- 50-59 D
6467 C+ 60-64 C 0-49 F
6063 C+ 55-59 C-
5559 C- 50-54 D
5054 D 0-49 F
0-49 F
Ontario Quebec U.S.
80-100 A 86-100 A 90-100 A
70-79 B 79-85 B 80-89 B
60-69 C 70-78 C 70-79 C
50-59 D 60-69 D 60-69 D
0-49 F 0-59 F <59 F
Modifiers +/-
Bishop Montreal McGill University
80-100 A 80-60 A 85-100 A
65-79 B 70-79 B 80-84 A-
50-64 C 60-69 C 75-79 B+
0-49 E (F) 50-59 D 70-74 B
0-49 E (F) 65-69 B-
55-64 C
50-54 D
0-49 E
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